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Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
September 13 2011 07:22 GMT
#441
Wow, so much hate in the OP :O!! Bisu will be back >
Man.Magic
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States178 Posts
September 13 2011 09:03 GMT
#442
lol trying to make Jaedong look better than Flash.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
September 13 2011 11:02 GMT
#443
omfg i dont get this post, we all know if he yust won the msl final he was a bonja (you can check0
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51109 Posts
September 13 2011 11:09 GMT
#444
On September 13 2011 20:02 sabas123 wrote:
omfg i dont get this post, we all know if he yust won the msl final he was a bonja (you can check0


no he was not.
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blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 13:55:59
September 13 2011 11:24 GMT
#445
On September 13 2011 20:02 sabas123 wrote:
omfg i dont get this post, we all know if he yust won the msl final he was a bonja (you can check0


errr...this post was made over a year ago, when Bisu showed somewhat solid results in SPL playoffs, but lost in the final to stats, so there was debate over whether or not Bisu was "good" at that point in time and whether he can be "good" again, so the OP is kind of irrelevant now.

Also the term "bonjwa" is reserved for someone who has proven themselves to be a dominant force in the BW scene, which generally means winning 3 OSLs in the course of a year. Bisu has yet to win an OSL. =(

edit: thanks to Harem for correcting me.
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Raii
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines194 Posts
September 13 2011 12:34 GMT
#446
On September 13 2011 13:27 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 13:25 Caladbolg wrote:
On September 13 2011 13:07 Foolishness wrote:
On September 13 2011 12:52 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Woah... I just found out that Bisu's ELO rank 1 right now!!!
Haha... but looking at the ELO list, I was kinda bummed about Jaedong... Now someone needs to write something like this about Jaedong, so Jaedong can revive and tear things apart~
Hopefully this current MSL won't be canceled so Bisu can win another MSL!!!! GOGOGO BISU!!!!!!!
LONG LIVE BW!!!!!

In this exhibit, we find the very rare creature: the simultaneous Bisu and Jaedong fan! Since the debut of both these players, it was thought that the simultaneous fan was just a legend, passed down through the ages. No documented sightings of such a creature could be verified. It was not until the 4th of January, 2010 when this fan proudly stepped into the light to verify his existence to the rest of Team Liquid. flamewheel and disciple were immediately baffled by the appearance. flamewheel proceeded to take a 2 month long hiatus as he reflected upon the meaning of his existence, and disciple cursed off watching BW and switched to wc3, where fans stay loyal to the players (it would not be for another month when he would be persuaded to switch back to bw reporting). An exotic creature indeed, and to this day it is still unknown how many exist. Scientists are attempting plan after plan in an attempt to find more of these creatures to possibly save this race.


Haha they aren't so rare :D There are different levels of fandom. I think some people here would marry Bisu, worship Flash, play ball with Jaedong, and drink beer with Stork.

I'm a Bisu/Jaedong fan myself, so I thought that was kinda weird loool, i would think its Bisu/Flash fans who would be a lot more rare haha


I'm a Bisu/Flash/Jaedong fan.
Just knowing either of them wins a game/title/award/whatever gives me the greatest boner of all time feeling of happiness.
Interesting comeback. How long did it take you make one?
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 13 2011 13:32 GMT
#447
I love Bisu =(
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
September 13 2011 13:52 GMT
#448
On September 13 2011 20:24 blahman3344 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 20:02 sabas123 wrote:
omfg i dont get this post, we all know if he yust won the msl final he was a bonja (you can check0


errr...this post was made over a year ago, when Bisu showed somewhat solid results in SPL playoffs, but lost in the final to stats, so there was debate over whether or not Bisu was "good" at that point in time and whether he can be "good" again, so the OP is kind of irrelevant now.

Also the term "bonjwa" is reserved for someone who has proven themselves to be a dominant force in the BW scene, which generally means winning 3 Starleagues (msl or osl) within the course of a year. Bisu was close to getting that, but lost to mind in his 3rd consecutive msl final.

Starleague only refers to OSL, not MSL.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starleague
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Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
September 13 2011 14:59 GMT
#449
Damn his runs been really impressive since the new proleague started, I knew he'd be back. So much hate on him during this time. Glad I stayed with him during the hard times.

Can't wait till he makes everyone shut the fuck up about the OSL and MSL problems too. If he keeps working hard its only a matter of time.
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
September 13 2011 17:50 GMT
#450
On September 13 2011 23:59 Nick_54 wrote:
Damn his runs been really impressive since the new proleague started, I knew he'd be back. So much hate on him during this time. Glad I stayed with him during the hard times.

Can't wait till he makes everyone shut the fuck up about the OSL and MSL problems too. If he keeps working hard its only a matter of time.


Better do it soon, he's getting past the prime age to win an SL. After that it's all downhill...
Zhul
Profile Joined February 2010
Czech Republic430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 18:19:46
September 13 2011 18:18 GMT
#451
Still true
On September 13 2011 20:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 20:02 sabas123 wrote:
omfg i dont get this post, we all know if he yust won the msl final he was a bonja (you can check0


no he was not.

:D:D::D:D:D::D:DD:D good one
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 13 2011 19:27 GMT
#452
On September 13 2011 20:24 blahman3344 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 20:02 sabas123 wrote:
omfg i dont get this post, we all know if he yust won the msl final he was a bonja (you can check0


errr...this post was made over a year ago, when Bisu showed somewhat solid results in SPL playoffs, but lost in the final to stats, so there was debate over whether or not Bisu was "good" at that point in time and whether he can be "good" again, so the OP is kind of irrelevant now.

Also the term "bonjwa" is reserved for someone who has proven themselves to be a dominant force in the BW scene, which generally means winning 3 OSLs in the course of a year. Bisu has yet to win an OSL. =(

edit: thanks to Harem for correcting me.

lol, even with Harem correcting you, you still got it wrong. 3 OSLs in 1 year? The term "bonjwa" was invented for Savior back when he was dominating, and he only won a single OSL. He had 3 MSLs, and 1 OSL.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bonjwa
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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 13 2011 19:38 GMT
#453
On September 13 2011 14:18 sheaRZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 13:56 TheAntZ wrote:
On September 13 2011 13:07 Foolishness wrote:
On September 13 2011 12:52 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Woah... I just found out that Bisu's ELO rank 1 right now!!!
Haha... but looking at the ELO list, I was kinda bummed about Jaedong... Now someone needs to write something like this about Jaedong, so Jaedong can revive and tear things apart~
Hopefully this current MSL won't be canceled so Bisu can win another MSL!!!! GOGOGO BISU!!!!!!!
LONG LIVE BW!!!!!

In this exhibit, we find the very rare creature: the simultaneous Bisu and Jaedong fan! Since the debut of both these players, it was thought that the simultaneous fan was just a legend, passed down through the ages. No documented sightings of such a creature could be verified. It was not until the 4th of January, 2010 when this fan proudly stepped into the light to verify his existence to the rest of Team Liquid. flamewheel and disciple were immediately baffled by the appearance. flamewheel proceeded to take a 2 month long hiatus as he reflected upon the meaning of his existence, and disciple cursed off watching BW and switched to wc3, where fans stay loyal to the players (it would not be for another month when he would be persuaded to switch back to bw reporting). An exotic creature indeed, and to this day it is still unknown how many exist. Scientists are attempting plan after plan in an attempt to find more of these creatures to possibly save this race.


Is it that rare? I dont watch as often anymore, but I always cheered for both JD and Bisu when I watched. Even when they were playing against each other id be happy if either won as long as the other put up a tremendous fight


I feel this trend is less about Jaedong fans specificly, and more Zerg players in general that find it hard to like Bisu. I would love to like Bisu, sure his style is exciting to watch...but he single-handedly turned ZvP metagame into living hell multiple times. Why ya gotta be like that Bisu?

(edit: now Savior fans liking Bisu.....thats gotta be pretty damned rare)

What i dont understand is all the Bisu fans i know hating on other tosses.


PvZ never even dropped below 50% winrate for Zerg...
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
September 13 2011 21:14 GMT
#454
On September 13 2011 13:07 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 12:52 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Woah... I just found out that Bisu's ELO rank 1 right now!!!
Haha... but looking at the ELO list, I was kinda bummed about Jaedong... Now someone needs to write something like this about Jaedong, so Jaedong can revive and tear things apart~
Hopefully this current MSL won't be canceled so Bisu can win another MSL!!!! GOGOGO BISU!!!!!!!
LONG LIVE BW!!!!!

In this exhibit, we find the very rare creature: the simultaneous Bisu and Jaedong fan! Since the debut of both these players, it was thought that the simultaneous fan was just a legend, passed down through the ages. No documented sightings of such a creature could be verified. It was not until the 4th of January, 2010 when this fan proudly stepped into the light to verify his existence to the rest of Team Liquid. flamewheel and disciple were immediately baffled by the appearance. flamewheel proceeded to take a 2 month long hiatus as he reflected upon the meaning of his existence, and disciple cursed off watching BW and switched to wc3, where fans stay loyal to the players (it would not be for another month when he would be persuaded to switch back to bw reporting). An exotic creature indeed, and to this day it is still unknown how many exist. Scientists are attempting plan after plan in an attempt to find more of these creatures to possibly save this race.

Hehe... Yeah... Everyone else right here is saying how they are Bisu/Jaedong/Flash/Jangbi fans... I'm like diehard these two take priorities over everything else... Only when Bisu is playing Jaedong will I cheer for Bisu... I'm an SKT fan, but I cheer for Jaedong when he plays against any SKT player excluding Bisu~ So hopefully, Jaedong will resurge like Bisu did~
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
September 14 2011 13:19 GMT
#455
Bisu ELO 2359 Peak 2375 Difference 16 Rank 1

Oh how a year changes things. I hope people keep making bad predictions for his future. It only makes me more proud of him when he rises above it
Writer:o
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 14:09:56
September 14 2011 14:05 GMT
#456
On September 14 2011 02:50 Weedk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 23:59 Nick_54 wrote:
Damn his runs been really impressive since the new proleague started, I knew he'd be back. So much hate on him during this time. Glad I stayed with him during the hard times.

Can't wait till he makes everyone shut the fuck up about the OSL and MSL problems too. If he keeps working hard its only a matter of time.


Better do it soon, he's getting past the prime age to win an SL. After that it's all downhill...

I don't think this applys for anyone who debuted post 2005/6. As these are the players who have pretty much peaked mechanically so a 25 year old Bisu would not have the same troubles as a 25 year old Boxer.

Edit: Jangbi is kinda case in point. 3 time runner up in 2008/9 then disappeared off the face of the earth for 2 years and now the fall of 2011 he is again at least runner up as if those 2 whole years never happened.
Moldwood
Profile Joined April 2011
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 16:19:36
September 14 2011 16:12 GMT
#457
"Hey fanboys, your favorite player is sumping. Suck on that. Cry more."


Is ALL that i read in the OP. i guess you gave some interesting info but the way you presented it was just silly and disrespectful.

As if the fanboys even care about the ELO here, now, in 2011. They don't, i promise you.
"You drone I void ray I win" --oGsMC
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