EPTThis is one of those scenarios where Kespa needs to step in and solve the problem to justify their existance.
SKT1 will NOT participate in OSL Group Ceremony - Page 5
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
This is one of those scenarios where Kespa needs to step in and solve the problem to justify their existance. | ||
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
On July 15 2010 17:27 matjlav wrote: Umm...? You do realize that entertaining fans is pretty much the point of e-sports, right? (Obviously, making money is the point, but entertaining fans is the stepping stone.) God forbid that the players get to take a break from their 10-hour-a-day practice schedule to take part in a 2-hour group selection ceremony that they only get to go to once or twice a year that is fun and relaxing. It would be "suicide." Typical Korean bullshit. It's before an important match for SKT.. what part of that did you not understand? of course fans are important factor in this thing but this grande finals are important for both those individuals & the team in terms of financial sitaution and prestige.. and of course FANS.. It's not like SKT prevented them from participating in OSL matches.. it's just one stupid group ceremony.. there isn't even Firebathero in it.. just lame. Netizens or whoever rioting against this thing is just dramatizing the sitaution.. just think about what would you think if you were that team's coach, player etc. This group ceremony, now I'm looking from calendar, can be postponed to Wed.. It wouldn't create this much noise if CJ/MBC/FOX did same thing.. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On July 15 2010 17:59 EvilTeletubby wrote: What the christ. Put yourself in the shoes of the T1 managers, with the pressure from your corporate sponsor as well as the fans to deliver and win big, then, oh yeah, we have the group selection ceremony... Terrible scheduling, but NO ONE can fault the decision. I'm half temped to issue bans for everyone suggesting the T1 players be DQ'ed... what the fucking hell is wrong with you guys?!? This is one of those scenarios where Kespa needs to step in and solve the problem to justify their existance. CJ players have the same scheduling. It's not as if it's unfair. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On July 15 2010 17:56 Black Gun wrote: skt´s move is just a reaction to the unprofessionality of the overall organization of pro sc. This, thank you. I can't believe all the anger directed at T1; SC fans can be really, really dense at times. People being 'disappointed' by them, or having 'all their respect go down the drain'. Really? They're between a rock and a hard place. They did it the RIGHT way by reaching out to OGN to express the issue, but nothing was done about it. IMO this is a total, TOTAL fail by Kespa to prevent stuff like this from happening. IMO, this is exactly the type of thing Kespa should exist for. If you guys are going to nerd-rage, at least direct your anger to the right place. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On July 15 2010 18:00 okum wrote: CJ players have the same scheduling. It's not as if it's unfair. Disagreed, it's completely unfair to CJ players as well, not just T1. Btw, you seriously can't compare the two apples to apples btw unless they both had exactly the same number of players involved, and they were the exact same players versing each other in PL.  | ||
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SiDX
New Zealand1975 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On July 15 2010 18:07 SiDX wrote: I really doubt that a few hours at a ceremony will make the difference between a win and loss. Seriously? When they only have two days to practice? Not only does the ceremony itself take a couple hours, but there is time associated with getting to/from and preparing for the event (and I mean more than just showering and getting dressed). This could easily eat up anywhere from 25%-40% or so of their total practice time. You really think that won't make a difference? | ||
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
On July 15 2010 18:07 SiDX wrote: I really doubt that a few hours at a ceremony will make the difference between a win and loss. Preparing for Bo7 as a team takes time. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 15 2010 17:21 SuperArc wrote: its hardly fair when only one team does it How can anyone be a SKT1 fan after this I don't see why I should hate the players just because the management fucked up. It would be like saying people shouldn't be CJ fans after the match-fixing scandal. One person's actions do not define the entire team, whether they're a player or a manager. As far as disqualification goes, it's still not fair to the players to DQ them over a decision made by the management. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On July 15 2010 18:11 EvilTeletubby wrote: Seriously? When they only have two days to practice? Not only does the ceremony itself take a couple hours, but there is time associated with getting to/from and preparing for the event (and I mean more than just showering and getting dressed). This could easily eat up anywhere from 25%-40% or so of their total practice time. You really think that won't make a difference? True, there is all this make up preparation too. (Btw it sounds unfair to CJ because Effort and Movie need so much more make up). Just joking, but I made this post in reply to people who think the group ceremony will only take 2 hours. Transport + getting dressed + heavy make up + ceremony + interviews about the groups + transport + make up removal = at least 6 hours. They have 2 days, 10 hours a day. That means the group ceremony wastes like 30% of their practice time. edit : typo | ||
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humblegar
Norway883 Posts
To me the Group Ceremony is part of what seperates brood war from a professional sports. No serious sport would allow a group with several of their top players and think it was a good idea (Midas comes to mind). And people calling for disqualification, to what sport are you comparing this scenario? Most sports do not make a joke of how they make their brackets in the first place. Sure, there are big ceremonies for the world cup and CL in football. But the players don't have to be there, and if they are present they have no influence over the brackets. | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On July 15 2010 18:04 EvilTeletubby wrote: This, thank you. I can't believe all the anger directed at T1; SC fans can be really, really dense at times. People being 'disappointed' by them, or having 'all their respect go down the drain'. Really? They're between a rock and a hard place. They did it the RIGHT way by reaching out to OGN to express the issue, but nothing was done about it. IMO this is a total, TOTAL fail by Kespa to prevent stuff like this from happening. IMO, this is exactly the type of thing Kespa should exist for. If you guys are going to nerd-rage, at least direct your anger to the right place. Meh. I suppose this is very true as well... SKT did get kind of screwed over. | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On July 15 2010 18:07 SiDX wrote: I really doubt that a few hours at a ceremony will make the difference between a win and loss. It's most likely huge a difference when you have two days to practice. | ||
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mkchoi0801
Canada125 Posts
FUCK. YOU. let me say that again... FUCK YOU I don't care which team this is, just because it's 'your' team, that doesn't mean you can justify this in whichever way possible. What a low baller move. OGN should DQ the absent players and move on. Seriously, what the hell guys. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
It doesn't matter what team it is. It's a management fuck up. | ||
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Storm[PT]
120 Posts
Honestly, after reading all the posts in this thread, your post is the most ignorant of them all. Sure, we are SKT1 fans, but we aren't defending their actions for the sake of being a fanboy; we are reasoning. IMO, this was really poor planning and a failure on kespa for not having solved this schedule conflict. | ||
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10or10
Sweden517 Posts
On July 15 2010 18:35 mkchoi0801 wrote: To the T1 fans defending this: FUCK. YOU. let me say that again... FUCK YOU I don't care which team this is, just because it's 'your' team, that doesn't mean you can justify this in whichever way possible. What a low baller move. OGN should DQ the absent players and move on. Seriously, what the hell guys. No but we all can justify it by reasonable arguments such as the schedule is bad and what not. That doesn't mean we all have to agree with their decision and that they maybe should've handled it earlier. But seriously, "fuck you"? | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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