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SKT1 will NOT participate in OSL Group Ceremony - Page 6

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CagedMind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States506 Posts
July 15 2010 09:53 GMT
#101
It seems stupid that a player would agree to the ceremony considering the situation. Hey guess what fans players would like to win.
your micro has been depleted
mkchoi0801
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada125 Posts
July 15 2010 09:55 GMT
#102
On July 15 2010 18:45 Storm[PT] wrote:
To the post mkchoi0801 made,
Honestly, after reading all the posts in this thread, your post is the most ignorant of them all.
Sure, we are SKT1 fans, but we aren't defending their actions for the sake of being a fanboy; we are reasoning.

IMO, this was really poor planning and a failure on kespa for not having solved this schedule conflict.


but that doesn't make any sense, your so called 'reasoning' comes from the fact that your a fanboy. It's not justifiable no matter how you put it. I just made the first post to piss you guys off, btw. Sure, keep defending your team, I hope it curses them out of both OSL and pro league.

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ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
July 15 2010 10:00 GMT
#103
People are being overly harsh on SKT here. It's just the group ceremony, I'd say it's a lot less important than the proleague finals. It seems like it's just terrible scheduling, the maps should have been given out earlier etc etc. 3-4 hours of practice time might not seem so bad but given what time they've been given their maps that like a quarter of their total practice time (given that it will be more like 5 hours absence and a loss of flow)
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remag
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany354 Posts
July 15 2010 10:00 GMT
#104
CJs players have to go too so wheres the problem? nobody gets pratice time so srsly TT
mkchoi0801
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada125 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 10:04:16
July 15 2010 10:00 GMT
#105
TL mods, never change. I didn't think internet was this easy to piss people off... Fanboyism is awesome.

Edit: I'll actually add something to this lol.
I'm sure that there have been scheduling conflicts before in the unbelievably long history of starcraft progaming. Did anyone say, 'fuck u fans, im not gonna show up to this cuz i need to practice.' To top it all off, CJ players are showing up. Progaming is nowhere without fans, and SKT just fucked them all in the butt with no lube. They couldn't devote 2 hours of their time to entertain the fans. So selfish, so SKT.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 10:19:47
July 15 2010 10:07 GMT
#106
On July 15 2010 19:00 mkchoi0801 wrote:
TL mods, never change. I didn't think internet was this easy to piss people off... Fanboyism is awesome.

Edit: I'll actually add something to this lol.
I'm sure that there have been scheduling conflicts before in the unbelievably long history of starcraft progaming. Did anyone say, 'fuck u fans, im not gonna show up to this cuz i need to practice.' To top it all off, CJ players are showing up. Progaming is nowhere without fans, and SKT just fucked them all in the butt with no lube. They couldn't devote 2 hours of their time to entertain the fans. So selfish, so SKT.


You are wrong. As a fervent SKT fan, I am glad they will have more time to practice and see them deliver on saturday. I would even like to see CJ practice more as well and see incredible games.

Do you really think fans want to watch poor games due to a lack of practice ?
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SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
July 15 2010 10:08 GMT
#107
On July 15 2010 18:35 mkchoi0801 wrote:
To the T1 fans defending this:
FUCK. YOU.
let me say that again... FUCK YOU
I don't care which team this is, just because it's 'your' team, that doesn't mean you can justify this in whichever way possible. What a low baller move. OGN should DQ the absent players and move on. Seriously, what the hell guys.

totally waiting for the Teletubby ban hammer on this one
Storm[PT]
Profile Joined March 2010
120 Posts
July 15 2010 10:15 GMT
#108
Ohhhhh ya, I'm waiting too SeeDLiNg.
Toss ftw; For the Revolutionist!
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
July 15 2010 10:16 GMT
#109
On July 15 2010 19:07 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 19:00 mkchoi0801 wrote:
TL mods, never change. I didn't think internet was this easy to piss people off... Fanboyism is awesome.

Edit: I'll actually add something to this lol.
I'm sure that there have been scheduling conflicts before in the unbelievably long history of starcraft progaming. Did anyone say, 'fuck u fans, im not gonna show up to this cuz i need to practice.' To top it all off, CJ players are showing up. Progaming is nowhere without fans, and SKT just fucked them all in the butt with no lube. They couldn't devote 2 hours of their time to entertain the fans. So selfish, so SKT.


You are wrong. As a fervent SKT, I am glad they will have more time to practice and see them deliver on saturday. I would even like to see CJ practice more as well and see incredible games.

Do you really think fans want to watch poor games due to a lack of practice ?



this. i think any skt fan would prefer to see them in at least one additional round of the playoffs rather than at this stupid group ceremony thing. i would fully understand if cj had decided to pull out of it too.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 15 2010 10:22 GMT
#110
On July 15 2010 19:16 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 19:07 endy wrote:
On July 15 2010 19:00 mkchoi0801 wrote:
TL mods, never change. I didn't think internet was this easy to piss people off... Fanboyism is awesome.

Edit: I'll actually add something to this lol.
I'm sure that there have been scheduling conflicts before in the unbelievably long history of starcraft progaming. Did anyone say, 'fuck u fans, im not gonna show up to this cuz i need to practice.' To top it all off, CJ players are showing up. Progaming is nowhere without fans, and SKT just fucked them all in the butt with no lube. They couldn't devote 2 hours of their time to entertain the fans. So selfish, so SKT.


You are wrong. As a fervent SKT, I am glad they will have more time to practice and see them deliver on saturday. I would even like to see CJ practice more as well and see incredible games.

Do you really think fans want to watch poor games due to a lack of practice ?



this. i think any skt fan would prefer to see them in at least one additional round of the playoffs rather than at this stupid group ceremony thing. i would fully understand if cj had decided to pull out of it too.


im not even an skt1 fan (well, not as much as someone with skt1 as their sig) and i would also prefer to see their practise improve their play. group ceremonies are so goddamn boring and i have no clue wtf is going on anyway

however, i watch starcraft because of the starcraft, so i hope the practise skt1 gets in improves their level of play
HEY MEYT
mkchoi0801
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada125 Posts
July 15 2010 10:24 GMT
#111
I know it was a 'smart' move on SKT's part. But what's the point of progaming, or any other e-sports or sports in general? It's to entertain the fans. They're destroying the only event that's purely entertainment where players get a chance to add personality, trash talk, rivalry into their profile. Had CJ removed their players as well, they would've had looked better. Guess what, CJ just made you guys look like a bunch of tools that NEED practice to win.
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
July 15 2010 10:26 GMT
#112
wow... unexpected~
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
July 15 2010 10:29 GMT
#113
I agree with everyone saying that it's a matter of terrible organization. I'd even endorse it if CJ did the same move.

And for everyone saying "they are neglecting their fans":
As a SKT T1 fan, would you rather see your 3 best players on the team fool around at a group selection for 3 hrs or see them perfectly prepared at the playoff matches? This decision is a nobrainer.
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JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
July 15 2010 10:29 GMT
#114
Put all 3 in the same group then!
If you have to ask, you don't know.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
July 15 2010 10:31 GMT
#115
why have a group ceremony if none of the players show up?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 10:32:47
July 15 2010 10:31 GMT
#116
Just when Bisu got into OSL lol

Man, SKT just do whatever they want. Like changing MSL schedule, blah blah. sigh, SKT

It is an understandable decision, probably just bad timing
POGGERS
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
July 15 2010 10:33 GMT
#117
Well, I thought the STX´s bench decision was stupid, but.. gonna ask TL

Poll:

STX Soul (24)
 
83%

SKT1 (5)
 
17%

29 total votes

Your vote:

(Vote): SKT1
(Vote): STX Soul

StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
July 15 2010 10:34 GMT
#118
It will be very funny if SKT lose after this.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
July 15 2010 10:43 GMT
#119
On July 15 2010 17:53 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 17:50 Black Gun wrote:
On July 15 2010 17:42 Geo.Rion wrote:
another clue that SC is not an actual sport. If withdrawing players from an official part of an event is possible, the whole event is amateurish

sry, but thats bullshit. in professional tennis its absolutely common for players to withdraw from the double competition if they make if suprisingly far in the single competition. in all other professional sports, there is only one organization running the events, or at most 2 diffeferent ones ( football national associations and the uefa) which hold much more contact about planning their events to not collide with each other.

the true problem here is that ogn and the proleague dont synchronize their schedules to prevent situations like the one we´re talking about.

withdraw from an event is one thing, withdrawing from a part of the event is not possible in professional sports, afaik

i edited my original post to make my point more clear



-Entrance ceremonies of the olympics are usually skipped by the athletes which compete in the next couple of days.

-Qualification rounds in ski jumping are quite often skipped by the top 15, even if the qualification determines the single elimination in the first round.

I'm sure there are a lot more of examples for such a behaviour. Nevertheless those acts of skipping part of the events are often heavily discussed with similar reasons as in sc here.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 15 2010 10:49 GMT
#120
On July 15 2010 19:24 mkchoi0801 wrote:
I know it was a 'smart' move on SKT's part. But what's the point of progaming, or any other e-sports or sports in general? It's to entertain the fans. They're destroying the only event that's purely entertainment where players get a chance to add personality, trash talk, rivalry into their profile. Had CJ removed their players as well, they would've had looked better. Guess what, CJ just made you guys look like a bunch of tools that NEED practice to win.

No one trash talks or adds rivalry anyways, at least Bisu, Hyuk and Fantasy won't. All they do is have some stupid contest (i.e. drawing or dressing up) and then they pick their groups.. and that's it.
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