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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11279 Posts
July 15 2010 10:54 GMT
#121
Seems like OGN gave in: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136411
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
July 15 2010 10:54 GMT
#122
SKT will lose fans if Bisu, Fantasy, and Hyuk lose their games. They will lose MORE fans if they lose the match.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
July 15 2010 12:55 GMT
#123
I rather see Bisu win..
If i wanted to support a player based on appearances instead of results, Ill be a tossgirl fanboy.
bisu fanboy
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
July 15 2010 12:59 GMT
#124
And people complained about STX's "no-bench" strategy.
This is way worse for the fans.,
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
July 15 2010 13:12 GMT
#125
On July 15 2010 15:51 GTR wrote:
oh, cj just announced they will not re-act to skt's retarded decision, and will allow their players effort and hydra to attend the group selection as planned.

Sweet.
Was lookin forward see Bisu after his amazing game against Jaedong @ ShinHan Bank Proleague.
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 13:20:18
July 15 2010 13:13 GMT
#126
Reschedule the ceremony. I'm serious.

5 of the 16 players have a play-off match on the very next day (against each other). One of them is the current champ.

I'd say this is significant enough for the ceremony itself to be rescheduled. It'd be pretty understandable.

edit: Oh, just saw they already did. Nice! It would have been a less than exciting ceremony anyway, even if they showed up, because they would have been too busy / tense to party along.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
July 15 2010 13:25 GMT
#127
On July 15 2010 17:53 Holgerius wrote:
Wow, my respect for SKT just went down the drain. That's such a lame move. My respect for CJ went up though. ^__^



weirdly enough the only people supporting SKT's decision have an SKT tag ...
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blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
July 15 2010 13:28 GMT
#128
as much as it would suck to see an OSL group ceremony w/o Bisu and Hyuk (='[) i guess its better for SKT1.
They aren't really as confident and strong team as they were last year (and Bisu still needs to fix his PvP from what I have seen of it), so they kinda need the practice this year.
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
July 15 2010 13:53 GMT
#129
On July 15 2010 22:25 swanized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 17:53 Holgerius wrote:
Wow, my respect for SKT just went down the drain. That's such a lame move. My respect for CJ went up though. ^__^



weirdly enough the only people supporting SKT's decision have an SKT tag ...


Weirder enough the only people complaining are people with an SKT tag and they complain about the "fans" asif theyre talking about themselves.
bisu fanboy
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 15 2010 14:03 GMT
#130
On July 15 2010 22:25 swanized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 17:53 Holgerius wrote:
Wow, my respect for SKT just went down the drain. That's such a lame move. My respect for CJ went up though. ^__^



weirdly enough the only people supporting SKT's decision have an SKT tag ...

Besides the fact that the ceremony was already moved, you have to realize that this decision was up to the coaching staff and management, not the players. Is it Bisu's fault? Hyuk's? Fantasy's? no, they do what they are told. If they were told they had to attend the ceremony and get less practice time, they would.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 14:12:01
July 15 2010 14:10 GMT
#131
See, this is the kind of crap KeSPA should be around to stop. Group Selection is great for the fans and should obviously be required to participate in the OSL.

Shame on T1, but you had to expect a team to try this eventually. The real travesty is that there's nobody standing up to them.
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FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
July 15 2010 14:24 GMT
#132
I'm supporting SKT1 on this one here. They were given 2 days notice for the maps and they want to move on into the next round. I don't follow the ceremonies so I just say go for it, if it means winning your games then do it.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 14:35:50
July 15 2010 14:33 GMT
#133
Well..bummer
Understandable but kinda saddening that they would do this to OGN.
Ooh OSL delayed to the 21st!
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
July 15 2010 14:34 GMT
#134
I'm with T1 on this. Their first obligation to themselves and the team is to win games. As a fan, I'd rather have them practice this 3 hours and win the match. This is a good sign and I am glad they are practicing hard.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
July 15 2010 14:38 GMT
#135
So stupid that this is even be nessesary. However, I think it should be the players' decision whether or not they want to attend a CEREMONY.
화이팅
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 15 2010 14:45 GMT
#136
On July 15 2010 23:34 Nick_54 wrote:
I'm with T1 on this. Their first obligation to themselves and the team is to win games. As a fan, I'd rather have them practice this 3 hours and win the match. This is a good sign and I am glad they are practicing hard.


Do you realize SK Telecom T1 have gone way overboard when it comes to prioritizing team obligations over the schedules of their players before this incident? They once forced their players to actually withdraw from participating in individual league qualifiers just because the team was underachieving in the Proleague.

SK Telecom T1 has always been a douchebag of a team. I hope they crash and burn.
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lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
July 15 2010 14:46 GMT
#137
On July 15 2010 23:38 XsebT wrote:
So stupid that this is even be nessesary. However, I think it should be the players' decision whether or not they want to attend a CEREMONY.


It is more than just a ceremony. It is for them to select their groups and try to make the groups as favourable as they can be to their advantage and to try to avoid groups of death. Not only that, it is important in the promotion of e-sports and fan service. Without fans, no pro sports can exist.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
July 15 2010 14:51 GMT
#138
On July 15 2010 23:03 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 22:25 swanized wrote:
On July 15 2010 17:53 Holgerius wrote:
Wow, my respect for SKT just went down the drain. That's such a lame move. My respect for CJ went up though. ^__^



weirdly enough the only people supporting SKT's decision have an SKT tag ...

Besides the fact that the ceremony was already moved, you have to realize that this decision was up to the coaching staff and management, not the players. Is it Bisu's fault? Hyuk's? Fantasy's? no, they do what they are told. If they were told they had to attend the ceremony and get less practice time, they would.


Wrong. Everyone had a say in the decision, as stated by Manager Jo in the SKT1 interview after the press release.
ppp
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 15 2010 15:00 GMT
#139
That's right PL... yoohs our bitches. You better reschedule! Kings said so.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 15:02:45
July 15 2010 15:02 GMT
#140
On July 15 2010 23:45 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 23:34 Nick_54 wrote:
I'm with T1 on this. Their first obligation to themselves and the team is to win games. As a fan, I'd rather have them practice this 3 hours and win the match. This is a good sign and I am glad they are practicing hard.


Do you realize SK Telecom T1 have gone way overboard when it comes to prioritizing team obligations over the schedules of their players before this incident? They once forced their players to actually withdraw from participating in individual league qualifiers just because the team was underachieving in the Proleague.

SK Telecom T1 has always been a douchebag of a team. I hope they crash and burn.


It was only the MSL, not the OSL.

They did what they had to do to reach their goals according to their priority, and to the rules of the (e)sport, that is as simple as that. One just needs to look at their success and their fan count to see that does work quite well.

Btw, this time, they may have made a move that will actually change OGN's habits of organizing ceremonies at terrible timings. This would be a very good thing.
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