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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
July 15 2010 08:27 GMT
#61
I don't think there's any problem with this at all. The players need their practice (especially Bisu) and giving them a day off doesn't seem to be such a good idea at this point.
While it seems kind of mean by skt i can see why they would want their players to get as much practice as possible.
U Gotta Skate.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 15 2010 08:27 GMT
#62
On July 15 2010 17:21 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 16:48 disciple wrote:
lol at ppl suggesting a DQ for all T1 players. SKT are being completely reasonable in this case - their players are not seeds so they just could get picked last and it wont change the flow of the group selection. I can totally understand why T1 dont want to waste an entire practice day because of a retarded group ceremony and saying that they dont respect their fans is absolutely stupid. I'm sure all SKT fans want their team to perform at their best in the PO, I for one am totally behind T1's move


its hardly fair when only one team does it

How can anyone be a SKT1 fan after this


Scheduling was terrible. SKT protested. I would find it normal if CJ wanted to do the same.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
July 15 2010 08:27 GMT
#63
On July 15 2010 17:21 SuperArc wrote:
its hardly fair when only one team does it

How can anyone be a SKT1 fan after this


Well it's not like other teams can't do the same.

If they're fine with only a couple hours of practice before a playoff bo7, so be it I guess.
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ZiZi Yo
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands102 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 08:30:43
July 15 2010 08:28 GMT
#64
It's not the world's end, sure.. tell that to netizens though. Just reading through their comments I can tell how furious they are atm. Some netizen reaction "I hope you fail all individual leagues, and playoffs too." There are more harsh comments too.. I just hope they didn't fail miserably, or ..will be eaten alive after that...

Though I am kinda disappointed.. it's just not fair to other teams >.<

Too many "#1 김택용 fanboys" ¬_¬ // "난 그냥 메가가 아니에요" XD // CellaWeRRa, the hamburgerrist~~~
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51698 Posts
July 15 2010 08:28 GMT
#65
On July 15 2010 17:27 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 17:21 SuperArc wrote:
On July 15 2010 16:48 disciple wrote:
lol at ppl suggesting a DQ for all T1 players. SKT are being completely reasonable in this case - their players are not seeds so they just could get picked last and it wont change the flow of the group selection. I can totally understand why T1 dont want to waste an entire practice day because of a retarded group ceremony and saying that they dont respect their fans is absolutely stupid. I'm sure all SKT fans want their team to perform at their best in the PO, I for one am totally behind T1's move


its hardly fair when only one team does it

How can anyone be a SKT1 fan after this


Scheduling was terrible. SKT protested. I would find it normal if CJ wanted to do the same.


how is the scheduling terrible? it is tradition since the first time osl ever had a group ceremony that it would be held on a friday. the date was probably set in stone as soon as the qualifiers started.

skt should cop it on the chin and deal with it.
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 08:30:43
July 15 2010 08:29 GMT
#66
This shit is fucking hilarious.

The last proleague finals all anyone on TL ever talked about was how PROLEAGUE is now greater than the OSL GRAND FINALS. The writers said this in the article and people bandwagoned hard as shit. And yet, when a team follows suit to practice for proleague all this hate comes out.

Yeah it sucks to fans momentarily, but again people on TL bandwagon hard as shit. I mean look at the thread talking about if you follow teams or players. Most people follow teams and I'm pretty sure your team raising a proleague trophy would be better to you as a fan than having Bisu/Fantasy/Hyuk talk at OSL group ceremonies.

And in the spirit of competitive BW, wouldn't you prefer if all teams had more than 2 days to practice for a full 7 set? Yes, it would be easier if ONE team [ SKT ] followed what everyone else did but is it fair if 3 of your team's aces who made OSL are unable to practice? It is not their fault they have 3 who made it into OSL they should not be punished. All teams should have agreed to push this group ceremony back OR gotten the maps earlier. I feel this is all a management fuck up by teams + ogn schedulers. Where is the urgency in a group ceremony vs Proleague?

LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 08:37:47
July 15 2010 08:29 GMT
#67
As lame as this is, there isn't honestly anything lost by this. Bisu, Fantasy, and Hyuk have as much of a personality as a rock. I don't imagine the players see much in this ceremony despite how much they want to "please the fans". None of them do anything interesting, say anything particularly outrageous, and some look close to falling asleep.

If it was someone like Hiya or Firebathero, I'd be pissed since they actually add something to the ceremony but none of them are particularly interesting to be honest. The group ceremonies haven't been good for nearly forever since none of the players are even interesting people.

If SKT wants to do this, go ahead. Not sure where the outrage is to be honest, especially considering every capable player besides Best has to turn up to this meaningless ceremony.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
July 15 2010 08:30 GMT
#68
Well CJ would be missing Hydra and Effort. Why not just have SKT1 and CJ both agree to have their entire A teams show up to the group selection so NO ONE practices muahaha.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 15 2010 08:31 GMT
#69
On July 15 2010 16:44 Milkis wrote:
imo OGN should just stick all three SKT players in the same group and don't let anyone switch SKT players out

hahaha i was thinking the same.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
July 15 2010 08:32 GMT
#70
ha, lets say im bisu
"Hey, i wanna go man sup? is the OSL, the biggest individual league, cmon let me go"

Still wont go?
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
July 15 2010 08:33 GMT
#71
On July 15 2010 17:29 Ack1027 wrote:
And in the spirit of competitive BW, wouldn't you prefer if all teams had more than 2 days to practice for a full 7 set? Yes, it would be easier if ONE team [ SKT ] followed what everyone else did but is it fair if 3 of your team's aces who made OSL are unable to practice? It is not their fault they have 3 who made it into OSL they should not be punished. All teams should have agreed to push this group ceremony back OR gotten the maps earlier. I feel this is all a management fuck up by teams + ogn schedulers. Where is the urgency in a group ceremony vs Proleague?


This. Seriously.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 15 2010 08:36 GMT
#72
Yeah Ack1027 made a good point saying that T1 is the team with the most qualified players in OSL, hence they are more affected.

Fox only has Pure, and MBC only has Sea iirc.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 08:51:42
July 15 2010 08:42 GMT
#73
another clue that SC is not an actual sport. If withdrawing players from an official part of an event is possible, the whole event is amateurish

It's like FC Barcelona would've announced that they wont let their players to attend the World Cup from the start, they might join the Spanish team later on
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
July 15 2010 08:45 GMT
#74
On July 15 2010 17:29 Ack1027 wrote:
This shit is fucking hilarious.

The last proleague finals all anyone on TL ever talked about was how PROLEAGUE is now greater than the OSL GRAND FINALS. The writers said this in the article and people bandwagoned hard as shit. And yet, when a team follows suit to practice for proleague all this hate comes out.

Yeah it sucks to fans momentarily, but again people on TL bandwagon hard as shit. I mean look at the thread talking about if you follow teams or players. Most people follow teams and I'm pretty sure your team raising a proleague trophy would be better to you as a fan than having Bisu/Fantasy/Hyuk talk at OSL group ceremonies.

And in the spirit of competitive BW, wouldn't you prefer if all teams had more than 2 days to practice for a full 7 set? Yes, it would be easier if ONE team [ SKT ] followed what everyone else did but is it fair if 3 of your team's aces who made OSL are unable to practice? It is not their fault they have 3 who made it into OSL they should not be punished. All teams should have agreed to push this group ceremony back OR gotten the maps earlier. I feel this is all a management fuck up by teams + ogn schedulers. Where is the urgency in a group ceremony vs Proleague?


i actually care more about individual leagues but thats a strong point i guess....
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 08:53:17
July 15 2010 08:50 GMT
#75
On July 15 2010 17:42 Geo.Rion wrote:
another clue that SC is not an actual sport. If withdrawing players from an official part of an event is possible, the whole event is amateurish

sry, but thats bullshit. in professional tennis its absolutely common for players to withdraw from the double competition if they make if suprisingly far in the single competition. in all other professional sports, there is only one organization running the events, or at most 2 diffeferent ones ( football national associations and the uefa) which hold much more contact about planning their events to not collide with each other.

the true problem here is that ogn and the proleague dont synchronize their schedules to prevent situations like the one we´re talking about. i can fully understand that skt doesnt want to waste 7 or so hours of their player´s valuable practice time for an PR event. in particular, fantasy also had to prepare for his msl games today.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 08:53:40
July 15 2010 08:53 GMT
#76
On July 15 2010 17:50 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 17:42 Geo.Rion wrote:
another clue that SC is not an actual sport. If withdrawing players from an official part of an event is possible, the whole event is amateurish

sry, but thats bullshit. in professional tennis its absolutely common for players to withdraw from the double competition if they make if suprisingly far in the single competition. in all other professional sports, there is only one organization running the events, or at most 2 diffeferent ones ( football national associations and the uefa) which hold much more contact about planning their events to not collide with each other.

the true problem here is that ogn and the proleague dont synchronize their schedules to prevent situations like the one we´re talking about.

withdraw from an event is one thing, withdrawing from a part of the event is not possible in professional sports, afaik

i edited my original post to make my point more clear
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 15 2010 08:53 GMT
#77
Wow, my respect for SKT just went down the drain. That's such a lame move. My respect for CJ went up though. ^__^

I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ZetaPulse
Profile Joined December 2009
59 Posts
July 15 2010 08:55 GMT
#78
The only thing I see wrong with this situation is people asking for disqualifications. What's with this black and white philosophy?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
July 15 2010 08:56 GMT
#79
On July 15 2010 17:53 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 17:50 Black Gun wrote:
On July 15 2010 17:42 Geo.Rion wrote:
another clue that SC is not an actual sport. If withdrawing players from an official part of an event is possible, the whole event is amateurish

sry, but thats bullshit. in professional tennis its absolutely common for players to withdraw from the double competition if they make if suprisingly far in the single competition. in all other professional sports, there is only one organization running the events, or at most 2 diffeferent ones ( football national associations and the uefa) which hold much more contact about planning their events to not collide with each other.

the true problem here is that ogn and the proleague dont synchronize their schedules to prevent situations like the one we´re talking about.

withdraw from an event is one thing, withdrawing from a part of the event is not possible in professional sports, afaik

i edited my original post to make my point more clear

well, i should have made my point clearer aswell: maybe skt´s behavior isnt too professional, and it wouldnt be possible in most professionally run sports. but my point is that in any truely professional sport, such a schedule overload wouldnt even happen. skt´s move is just a reaction to the unprofessionality of the overall organization of pro sc.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
July 15 2010 08:57 GMT
#80
oh come on, that's just lame SKT. You lose what? 3-4 hours practice time?

Cut some sleep to make up for it you bastards, seriously...
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