• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:23
CET 04:23
KST 12:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!41$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1125 users

SKT1 will NOT participate in OSL Group Ceremony - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
Wik
Profile Joined July 2010
United States125 Posts
July 15 2010 06:52 GMT
#21
On July 15 2010 15:51 GTR wrote:
oh, cj just announced they will not re-act to skt's retarded decision, and will allow their players effort and hydra to attend the group selection as planned.


That is good to hear at least :/. Would still be nice to see SKT though.
Homo for Lomo
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 15 2010 06:53 GMT
#22
On July 15 2010 15:51 GTR wrote:
oh, cj just announced they will not re-act to skt's retarded decision, and will allow their players effort and hydra to attend the group selection as planned.

NICE! Props to CJ for being real men lol.
GANDHISAUCE
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 06:54:56
July 15 2010 06:53 GMT
#23
Can't SKT1 just win 4-0 with (Z)s2, (Z)Hyuk, n.Die_soO and ummm (Z)Thezerg? Seriously though I'd rather they just half ass their entrances to the group selection (no ceremony/fan prep) than completely forgoing the ceremony. It really is like what the neitzens are saying that this is ignoring the fans.
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
July 15 2010 06:55 GMT
#24
On July 15 2010 15:51 GTR wrote:
oh, cj just announced they will not re-act to skt's retarded decision, and will allow their players effort and hydra to attend the group selection as planned.



I wouldn't expect anything less from CJ, or most other teams, for that matter.
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 15 2010 06:56 GMT
#25
The SKT players should definitely be threatened with DQ if they don't show up.

CJ's players have to go too.

Sets a bad precedent.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7816 Posts
July 15 2010 06:57 GMT
#26
Group ceremonies are for show while playoffs are the real deal. I understand why SKT is attempting to do this.

However, as logical as the reason is, I don't think it should be allowed as it goes against the traditions of the OSL
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
July 15 2010 06:58 GMT
#27
If SKT did not tell anyone else about this beforehand, DQ and possible other actions should be taken, in my opinion.

However, it seems that OGN knew about SKT's opinion beforehand, as well as the other teams.
ppp
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2093 Posts
July 15 2010 07:00 GMT
#28
Disqualification is pretty harsh. It's unlikely that the players decided not to go anyway. Many problems with progaming seem to come from the very intense event schedule.Go SK!
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 15 2010 07:03 GMT
#29
On July 15 2010 16:00 Simplistik wrote:
Disqualification is pretty harsh. It's unlikely that the players decided not to go anyway. Many problems with progaming seem to come from the very intense event schedule.Go SK!


Well we sure as hell can't disqualify the coaches. At least the threat of DQ should be enforced, I agree with others about setting a precedent if this goes completely unpunished.
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 07:07:58
July 15 2010 07:07 GMT
#30
I must be the minority that is actually encouraging SKT's actions.

If I were a pro-gamer, I would say fuck ceremonies, formality, and limelight and just practice for a the upcoming match. They need every edge they can get. Assuming Bisu, Fantasy, and Hyuk are introverted, nerdy guys like myself, I would assume they're feeling the same thing.
So close, and yet so far
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
July 15 2010 07:09 GMT
#31
i don't know about all the hate, their reason is pretty understandable.

if you had an exam in two days, and your friends ask you to play basketball with them tomorrow.
if you don't play basketball, your friends are missing a player, and can't play without you, or they can play, but it will be weird with a missing player.
i can totally understand if you wanted to study for the exam instead of playing.

if anything, blame the planner/scheduler.
they shouldn't have scheduled the ceremony and the playoffs so close to each other.
go KHAN! TBLS <3
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 07:10:43
July 15 2010 07:10 GMT
#32
its too bad the group stage stuff cant have been scheduled after the proleague playoffs. I hate how starcraft events and stuff are all so crammed around each other literally year round.

edit: haha nextstep we think alike ^_^
SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
July 15 2010 07:10 GMT
#33
yeah... DQ is harsh... they should just put them all in a bracket together...
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 07:13:22
July 15 2010 07:11 GMT
#34
On July 15 2010 16:07 Assymptotic wrote:
I must be the minority that is actually encouraging SKT's actions.

If I were a pro-gamer, I would say fuck ceremonies, formality, and limelight and just practice for a the upcoming match. They need every edge they can get. Assuming Bisu, Fantasy, and Hyuk are introverted, nerdy guys like myself, I would assume they're feeling the same thing.


Um... They are professional Starcraft players, and you aren't. They have fans, and you don't. They have to abide by their company's decisions, and... do I need to go on?

Also, I don't know if anyone remembers, but Flash has done the same thing from MSL. He did not show up on a few MSL ceremonies for who knows why.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
SmiLeSE
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden58 Posts
July 15 2010 07:13 GMT
#35
While I can't support a DQ as SKT couldn't care less if the players didn't qualify, it is truly a dick move on their part.
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
July 15 2010 07:16 GMT
#36
SKT chickens!
Flash returns...
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
July 15 2010 07:18 GMT
#37
On July 15 2010 16:11 newvsoldschool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 16:07 Assymptotic wrote:
I must be the minority that is actually encouraging SKT's actions.

If I were a pro-gamer, I would say fuck ceremonies, formality, and limelight and just practice for a the upcoming match. They need every edge they can get. Assuming Bisu, Fantasy, and Hyuk are introverted, nerdy guys like myself, I would assume they're feeling the same thing.


Um... They are professional Starcraft players, and you aren't. They have fans, and you don't. They have to abide by their company's decisions, and... do I need to go on?

Also, I don't know if anyone remembers, but Flash has done the same thing from MSL. He did not show up on a few MSL ceremonies for who knows why.

wat? when?
Woo Jung Ho
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 15 2010 07:19 GMT
#38
Playoffs are played at 13 on saturday morning, it's stupid from OGN to schedule the group selection on friday evening. Especially they could have done it this wednesday since there was no games at all. But I agree that it is also stupid from SKT to wait until thursday to say they will not attend in order to practice more. Imo, coaches should just have complained about the group selection schedule when the date was released.
ॐ
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 07:24:21
July 15 2010 07:21 GMT
#39
On July 15 2010 15:45 ndralcasid wrote:
It wouldn't be fair to DQ Bisu/Fantasy/Hyuk if it was a management decision where they had no say in there matter. However, this really is a shitty thing for SKT1 to do.

This.

If Bisu, Fantasy, and Hyuk are going to be DQed, it should at least be for something that they had a say in.


On July 15 2010 16:03 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 16:00 Simplistik wrote:
Disqualification is pretty harsh. It's unlikely that the players decided not to go anyway. Many problems with progaming seem to come from the very intense event schedule.Go SK!


Well we sure as hell can't disqualify the coaches. At least the threat of DQ should be enforced, I agree with others about setting a precedent if this goes completely unpunished.

From the way things sound, it seems that SKT management cares a lot more about PL than individual leagues. Punishment on the PL side of things is much more likely to get a response than the OSL side.
Moderator
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
July 15 2010 07:26 GMT
#40
A fair response would be to put all of them in the same group. Together with, say, Jaedong.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
PiGosaur Cup #55
Liquipedia
BSL 21
20:00
ProLeague - RO32 Group A
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 149
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 20214
Sea 2417
NaDa 80
Noble 50
Icarus 2
Dota 2
monkeys_forever494
NeuroSwarm95
League of Legends
JimRising 691
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor139
Other Games
tarik_tv13028
summit1g9335
ViBE65
goatrope34
Models1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick587
Counter-Strike
PGL159
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 116
• davetesta15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21637
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 38m
WardiTV Korean Royale
8h 38m
LAN Event
11h 38m
ByuN vs Zoun
TBD vs TriGGeR
Clem vs TBD
IPSL
14h 38m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
16h 38m
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Wardi Open
1d 8h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
[ Show More ]
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.