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Wik
Profile Joined July 2010
United States125 Posts
July 15 2010 06:52 GMT
#21
On July 15 2010 15:51 GTR wrote:
oh, cj just announced they will not re-act to skt's retarded decision, and will allow their players effort and hydra to attend the group selection as planned.


That is good to hear at least :/. Would still be nice to see SKT though.
Homo for Lomo
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 15 2010 06:53 GMT
#22
On July 15 2010 15:51 GTR wrote:
oh, cj just announced they will not re-act to skt's retarded decision, and will allow their players effort and hydra to attend the group selection as planned.

NICE! Props to CJ for being real men lol.
GANDHISAUCE
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 06:54:56
July 15 2010 06:53 GMT
#23
Can't SKT1 just win 4-0 with (Z)s2, (Z)Hyuk, n.Die_soO and ummm (Z)Thezerg? Seriously though I'd rather they just half ass their entrances to the group selection (no ceremony/fan prep) than completely forgoing the ceremony. It really is like what the neitzens are saying that this is ignoring the fans.
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
July 15 2010 06:55 GMT
#24
On July 15 2010 15:51 GTR wrote:
oh, cj just announced they will not re-act to skt's retarded decision, and will allow their players effort and hydra to attend the group selection as planned.



I wouldn't expect anything less from CJ, or most other teams, for that matter.
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APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 15 2010 06:56 GMT
#25
The SKT players should definitely be threatened with DQ if they don't show up.

CJ's players have to go too.

Sets a bad precedent.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7795 Posts
July 15 2010 06:57 GMT
#26
Group ceremonies are for show while playoffs are the real deal. I understand why SKT is attempting to do this.

However, as logical as the reason is, I don't think it should be allowed as it goes against the traditions of the OSL
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
July 15 2010 06:58 GMT
#27
If SKT did not tell anyone else about this beforehand, DQ and possible other actions should be taken, in my opinion.

However, it seems that OGN knew about SKT's opinion beforehand, as well as the other teams.
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1994 Posts
July 15 2010 07:00 GMT
#28
Disqualification is pretty harsh. It's unlikely that the players decided not to go anyway. Many problems with progaming seem to come from the very intense event schedule.Go SK!
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 15 2010 07:03 GMT
#29
On July 15 2010 16:00 Simplistik wrote:
Disqualification is pretty harsh. It's unlikely that the players decided not to go anyway. Many problems with progaming seem to come from the very intense event schedule.Go SK!


Well we sure as hell can't disqualify the coaches. At least the threat of DQ should be enforced, I agree with others about setting a precedent if this goes completely unpunished.
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 07:07:58
July 15 2010 07:07 GMT
#30
I must be the minority that is actually encouraging SKT's actions.

If I were a pro-gamer, I would say fuck ceremonies, formality, and limelight and just practice for a the upcoming match. They need every edge they can get. Assuming Bisu, Fantasy, and Hyuk are introverted, nerdy guys like myself, I would assume they're feeling the same thing.
So close, and yet so far
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
July 15 2010 07:09 GMT
#31
i don't know about all the hate, their reason is pretty understandable.

if you had an exam in two days, and your friends ask you to play basketball with them tomorrow.
if you don't play basketball, your friends are missing a player, and can't play without you, or they can play, but it will be weird with a missing player.
i can totally understand if you wanted to study for the exam instead of playing.

if anything, blame the planner/scheduler.
they shouldn't have scheduled the ceremony and the playoffs so close to each other.
go KHAN! TBLS <3
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 07:10:43
July 15 2010 07:10 GMT
#32
its too bad the group stage stuff cant have been scheduled after the proleague playoffs. I hate how starcraft events and stuff are all so crammed around each other literally year round.

edit: haha nextstep we think alike ^_^
SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
July 15 2010 07:10 GMT
#33
yeah... DQ is harsh... they should just put them all in a bracket together...
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 07:13:22
July 15 2010 07:11 GMT
#34
On July 15 2010 16:07 Assymptotic wrote:
I must be the minority that is actually encouraging SKT's actions.

If I were a pro-gamer, I would say fuck ceremonies, formality, and limelight and just practice for a the upcoming match. They need every edge they can get. Assuming Bisu, Fantasy, and Hyuk are introverted, nerdy guys like myself, I would assume they're feeling the same thing.


Um... They are professional Starcraft players, and you aren't. They have fans, and you don't. They have to abide by their company's decisions, and... do I need to go on?

Also, I don't know if anyone remembers, but Flash has done the same thing from MSL. He did not show up on a few MSL ceremonies for who knows why.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
SmiLeSE
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden58 Posts
July 15 2010 07:13 GMT
#35
While I can't support a DQ as SKT couldn't care less if the players didn't qualify, it is truly a dick move on their part.
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
July 15 2010 07:16 GMT
#36
SKT chickens!
Flash returns...
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
July 15 2010 07:18 GMT
#37
On July 15 2010 16:11 newvsoldschool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 16:07 Assymptotic wrote:
I must be the minority that is actually encouraging SKT's actions.

If I were a pro-gamer, I would say fuck ceremonies, formality, and limelight and just practice for a the upcoming match. They need every edge they can get. Assuming Bisu, Fantasy, and Hyuk are introverted, nerdy guys like myself, I would assume they're feeling the same thing.


Um... They are professional Starcraft players, and you aren't. They have fans, and you don't. They have to abide by their company's decisions, and... do I need to go on?

Also, I don't know if anyone remembers, but Flash has done the same thing from MSL. He did not show up on a few MSL ceremonies for who knows why.

wat? when?
Woo Jung Ho
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 15 2010 07:19 GMT
#38
Playoffs are played at 13 on saturday morning, it's stupid from OGN to schedule the group selection on friday evening. Especially they could have done it this wednesday since there was no games at all. But I agree that it is also stupid from SKT to wait until thursday to say they will not attend in order to practice more. Imo, coaches should just have complained about the group selection schedule when the date was released.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 07:24:21
July 15 2010 07:21 GMT
#39
On July 15 2010 15:45 ndralcasid wrote:
It wouldn't be fair to DQ Bisu/Fantasy/Hyuk if it was a management decision where they had no say in there matter. However, this really is a shitty thing for SKT1 to do.

This.

If Bisu, Fantasy, and Hyuk are going to be DQed, it should at least be for something that they had a say in.


On July 15 2010 16:03 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 16:00 Simplistik wrote:
Disqualification is pretty harsh. It's unlikely that the players decided not to go anyway. Many problems with progaming seem to come from the very intense event schedule.Go SK!


Well we sure as hell can't disqualify the coaches. At least the threat of DQ should be enforced, I agree with others about setting a precedent if this goes completely unpunished.

From the way things sound, it seems that SKT management cares a lot more about PL than individual leagues. Punishment on the PL side of things is much more likely to get a response than the OSL side.
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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
July 15 2010 07:26 GMT
#40
A fair response would be to put all of them in the same group. Together with, say, Jaedong.
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