Um... They are professional Starcraft players, and you aren't. They have fans, and you don't. They have to abide by their company's decisions, and... do I need to go on?

Also, I don't know if anyone remembers, but Flash has done the same thing from MSL. He did not show up on a few MSL ceremonies for who knows why.

Obviously they have to abide by their company's policy, but I'm assuming here that they (the players) are ok with SKT's decision to withdraw from the ceremony since I'm comparing their personalities to people who probably share similar personalities.

As a fan I would rather be cheering them on to win a match and entertain me in the match by playing their A game, not worry about some formality.

Also, you defeated yourself in your argument. As professionals who have to follow their company, their obligation is to their company, not their fans.

Lightwip

United States5497 Posts

July 15 2010 07:31 GMT

#45

Disappointing, but I can see why they would do it. As long as they do well in the playoffs I can forgive this.

vance

Thailand118 Posts

July 15 2010 07:33 GMT

#46

On July 15 2010 16:26 okum wrote:
A fair response would be to put all of them in the same group. Together with, say, Jaedong.

Poor Jeadong, lol

Avidkeystamper

United States8556 Posts

July 15 2010 07:36 GMT

#47

On July 15 2010 16:09 nextstep wrote:
i don't know about all the hate, their reason is pretty understandable.

if you had an exam in two days, and your friends ask you to play basketball with them tomorrow.
if you don't play basketball, your friends are missing a player, and can't play without you, or they can play, but it will be weird with a missing player.
i can totally understand if you wanted to study for the exam instead of playing.

if anything, blame the planner/scheduler.
they shouldn't have scheduled the ceremony and the playoffs so close to each other.

How about if you had an exam you knew was coming for months, and your friend asked you to play basketball for one day. That's a more reasonable comparison. Oh, and it's your job to take this exam, so it's not like you were slacking off. And you've been having practice exams of the same sort for over a year.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

July 15 2010 07:37 GMT

#48

On July 15 2010 16:26 okum wrote:
A fair response would be to put all of them in the same group. Together with, say, Jaedong.

So they all practice vZ (since, even if they lose to each other, if they beat Jaedong 2/3 will advance), and Jaedong has to prepare all 3 matchups.

Sounds like a good way to get Jaedong eliminated.

Avidkeystamper

United States8556 Posts

July 15 2010 07:38 GMT

#49

He has a week to practice the appropriate MU. That's more than enough time.

Lightwip

United States5497 Posts

July 15 2010 07:41 GMT

#50

Alright, so after looking at the time between the ceremony and the playoffs, I can completely understand why they would do it, and why it would make a lot of sense. The ceremony might take maybe 2-3 hours(starting at 6:30 PM). The progamers would have to arrive early so that they can prepare the entrance ceremony and such(Maybe 6 PM). After the ceremony and drive back and other concerns, they would barely have any of the evening left. The games start at 1 PM, they have to get to the studio, and they have to get enough sleep. So the ceremony means that they won't get an entire evening to practice, which is a lot considering their short notice as far as maps go. That could make a real difference in their play, despite the harm it could have to the PR.

Milkis

5003 Posts

July 15 2010 07:44 GMT

#51

imo OGN should just stick all three SKT players in the same group and don't let anyone switch SKT players out

disciple

9071 Posts

July 15 2010 07:48 GMT

#52

lol at ppl suggesting a DQ for all T1 players. SKT are being completely reasonable in this case - their players are not seeds so they just could get picked last and it wont change the flow of the group selection. I can totally understand why T1 dont want to waste an entire practice day because of a retarded group ceremony and saying that they dont respect their fans is absolutely stupid. I'm sure all SKT fans want their team to perform at their best in the PO, I for one am totally behind T1's move

Arite

United States218 Posts

July 15 2010 08:03 GMT

#53

You know, they should just throw the three of them into a group with each other. If they want to stay at home so much, they can do so in the OSL too.

darkemperor

Turkey725 Posts

July 15 2010 08:06 GMT

#54

just postpone the group selection to another time.. sigh.. it's not like world's end.. and DQ player???? are you kidding me? Those individuals worked their ass off to get there, it's SKT's decision at this point.. since those players are underling of SKT, they have to obey that decision.. but I can sympathise SKT because they might not want their players to fool around before an important playoff match.. CJ can do that too.. also fans saying "if they do that, they ignore us" blah blah is an idiotic attitude. Organizations at that calibre will have to be selfish at some point, they can't entertain fans all the time.

Scarecrow

Korea (South)9175 Posts

July 15 2010 08:08 GMT

#55

Fair enough with only 2 days prior knowledge of maps. Just poor scheduling

SuperArc

Austria7781 Posts

July 15 2010 08:21 GMT

#56

On July 15 2010 16:48 disciple wrote:
lol at ppl suggesting a DQ for all T1 players. SKT are being completely reasonable in this case - their players are not seeds so they just could get picked last and it wont change the flow of the group selection. I can totally understand why T1 dont want to waste an entire practice day because of a retarded group ceremony and saying that they dont respect their fans is absolutely stupid. I'm sure all SKT fans want their team to perform at their best in the PO, I for one am totally behind T1's move

its hardly fair when only one team does it

How can anyone be a SKT1 fan after this

Piste

6183 Posts

July 15 2010 08:24 GMT

#57

On July 15 2010 15:44 FragKrag wrote:
What the hell :/

DQ the players if they don't show up.

ehhh, it's not the player's desicion.

PoP

France15446 Posts

July 15 2010 08:26 GMT

#58

Crappy scheduling from OGN, really. I'm not 100% happy with T1's decision, but it's understandable nonetheless. Knowing the maps two days before their match is completely retarded as well--no idea if it's always been this way but wtf.

Sounds like a decently reasonable decision to me.

Pafnucy

Poland1124 Posts

July 15 2010 08:26 GMT

#59

On July 15 2010 17:08 Scarecrow wrote:
Fair enough with only 2 days prior knowledge of maps. Just poor scheduling

matjlav

Germany2435 Posts

July 15 2010 08:27 GMT

#60

On July 15 2010 17:06 darkemperor wrote:
also fans saying "if they do that, they ignore us" blah blah is an idiotic attitude. Organizations at that calibre will have to be selfish at some point, they can't entertain fans all the time.

Umm...? You do realize that entertaining fans is pretty much the point of e-sports, right? (Obviously, making money is the point, but entertaining fans is the stepping stone.)

God forbid that the players get to take a break from their 10-hour-a-day practice schedule to take part in a 2-hour group selection ceremony that they only get to go to once or twice a year that is fun and relaxing. It would be "suicide." Typical Korean bullshit.