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Third Match-fixing Trial, Hwasin as witness - Page 3

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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 08 2010 12:49 GMT
#41
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
July 08 2010 12:52 GMT
#42
It's really sad to see the maturity of the progamers through this. They see match fixing as such a nonchalant thing.

"Hey, I heard about this match fix thing."
"Yeah? Well I'm already out of my group.."
"Try it!"
"Yeah, sure."

Progamers are good at the game... but sadly... not at all that much else?
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
July 08 2010 12:55 GMT
#43
On July 08 2010 21:49 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 21:40 nayumi wrote:
On July 08 2010 17:26 infinity2k9 wrote:
How did Savior know Leta would play 2fac, Justin or someone giving the information i suppose?

Or type-b

or YarnC

or go.go

you pick


Leta: Hey dudes! Help me with my 2fac! I needa practice it vs Hwasin... he's really good and I want to catch him offguard.

type-b+yarnc+gogo+justin: NO PROBLEM LETA >=D

-Leta looks back on those memories after reading this-

Leta: EDIT: LOLOLOL YEAH FAGS U TRIED TO PLAYA HATE AND TAKE ME OUT BUT LOOK WHAT HAPPENED> YOU CANT STOP THE CUTE MIRACLE TERRAN FOOS...
...
BUT LOL @ HWASIN NUB

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SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
July 08 2010 13:08 GMT
#44
It's kind of sad that Leta was maybe betrayed by half the Sparkyz A team—maybe more often than just against Hwasin.

The guy has been one of the best PL players for a very long time (probably the best except Flash/Jaedong). So all his wins are for the benefit of his team, with little success in the starleagues (Maybe this explains why?), and his teammates stab him in the back to make a little money on the side.

This is assuming he wasn't in on it, and they just haven't caught him yet.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
July 08 2010 13:15 GMT
#45
On July 08 2010 17:25 USn wrote:
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On July 08 2010 16:53 iLoveKT wrote:
On July 08 2010 16:52 HaruHaru wrote:
i wonder if match fixing had to do with tossgirl breaking up with hwasin :/
that would have been a greater loss than his career imo

lol im pretty sure hwasin can easily get women 1000x hotter than tossgirl. not in jail though...


Sorry, I'd be hard pressed to find somebody 1000x hotter than tossgirl

Tossgirl is not hot at all... Look at pictures of her. She looks like a middle-aged woman with too much makeup. She was definitely cute as a kid, but the years have not been kind to her.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
July 08 2010 13:18 GMT
#46
On July 08 2010 22:15 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 17:25 USn wrote:
On July 08 2010 16:53 iLoveKT wrote:
On July 08 2010 16:52 HaruHaru wrote:
i wonder if match fixing had to do with tossgirl breaking up with hwasin :/
that would have been a greater loss than his career imo

lol im pretty sure hwasin can easily get women 1000x hotter than tossgirl. not in jail though...


Sorry, I'd be hard pressed to find somebody 1000x hotter than tossgirl

Tossgirl is not hot at all... Look at pictures of her. She looks like a middle-aged woman with too much makeup. She was definitely cute as a kid, but the years have not been kind to her.

Middle aged women can be hot, and tossgirl definitely still qualifies. She's well above the mean, you only date supermodels?
Yhamm is the god of predictions
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 08 2010 13:47 GMT
#47
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17734 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 13:51:27
July 08 2010 13:49 GMT
#48
On July 08 2010 22:08 SimonB wrote:
It's kind of sad that Leta was maybe betrayed by half the Sparkyz A team—maybe more often than just against Hwasin.

The guy has been one of the best PL players for a very long time (probably the best except Flash/Jaedong). So all his wins are for the benefit of his team, with little success in the starleagues (Maybe this explains why?), and his teammates stab him in the back to make a little money on the side.

This is assuming he wasn't in on it, and they just haven't caught him yet.

Man when i read that line with savior telling hwasin that leta is going to open 2 fact management. It didnt sink in until i read your post again. Oh god now thats just messed up Sparkyz. Thats so.... To betray your teammate's back and actually reveal the build he was planning to use.

It just sickens me to imagine someone like Justin asking Leta pretending to care for him, to give him tips while in reality hes stabbing him in the back.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 08 2010 13:52 GMT
#49
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Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
July 08 2010 13:59 GMT
#50
tossgirl isn't hot

Heresy!
Not_A_Notion
Profile Joined May 2009
Ireland441 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 14:28:22
July 08 2010 14:24 GMT
#51
On July 08 2010 22:08 SimonB wrote:
It's kind of sad that Leta was maybe betrayed by half the Sparkyz A team—maybe more often than just against Hwasin.

The guy has been one of the best PL players for a very long time (probably the best except Flash/Jaedong). So all his wins are for the benefit of his team, with little success in the starleagues (Maybe this explains why?), and his teammates stab him in the back to make a little money on the side.

This is assuming he wasn't in on it, and they just haven't caught him yet.


I doubt he would be in on it. I mean if he was intentionally leaking his BO's he could have easily thrown the game V (T)Hwasin rather than out macroing him as he did.
Though losing when you've been told 2 fact opening does seem hilariously stupid.
But yeah sucks to be stabbed in the back like that. Personally I blame (T)go.go
A worrying lack of anvils
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
July 08 2010 14:38 GMT
#52
On July 08 2010 22:08 SimonB wrote:
It's kind of sad that Leta was maybe betrayed by half the Sparkyz A team—maybe more often than just against Hwasin.

The guy has been one of the best PL players for a very long time (probably the best except Flash/Jaedong). So all his wins are for the benefit of his team, with little success in the starleagues (Maybe this explains why?), and his teammates stab him in the back to make a little money on the side.

This is assuming he wasn't in on it, and they just haven't caught him yet.


I'd feel bad if he didn't look into the crowd all the time to get signaled information at the start of games
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 08 2010 14:39 GMT
#53
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Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
July 08 2010 14:44 GMT
#54
So sad to see hwasin waste like 6-7 years of his progaming life for nothing.
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
July 08 2010 14:45 GMT
#55
Tossgirl's hot
its me
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
July 08 2010 15:16 GMT
#56
On July 08 2010 23:45 Kaolla wrote:
Tossgirl's hot


I agree.
:)
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
July 08 2010 15:22 GMT
#57
Stop the Ma is probably savior nonsense! There is only one Mr. Ma and you should know that he has the quote steaming genitals of Genghis Khan /quote. I mean look at this stuff, such mastery of words, such fearlessness. He might have been losing it as a gamer but the rest of him is the same as in the days of old. I am confident that this man will be doing fine in life having retired from progaming.

On the current topic: Tossgirl is meh, I suspect that people who consider her extremely hot suffer from a syndrome when men have skewed perception of a woman when perceiving an environment where the said woman is the only one or one of the very few, see military. Maybe there is a name for this illness?
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
July 08 2010 15:23 GMT
#58
tossgirl doesn't look bad, but evidently there are girls orders of magnitudes hotter in korea
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Smu
Profile Joined July 2009
Serbia164 Posts
July 08 2010 16:00 GMT
#59
On July 08 2010 16:47 razorsuKe wrote:
damn, Ma X is such a hustler:

“The hyung I know bet on you winning, and he lost 20 000 000, all because you lost. "

some Grade-A material right there.


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Take us into orbit Mr. Malmsteen. We've seen enough.
Delerium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States324 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 16:17:26
July 08 2010 16:16 GMT
#60
On July 09 2010 00:22 hellbound wrote:
Stop the Ma is probably savior nonsense! There is only one Mr. Ma and you should know that he has the quote steaming genitals of Genghis Khan /quote. I mean look at this stuff, such mastery of words, such fearlessness. He might have been losing it as a gamer but the rest of him is the same as in the days of old. I am confident that this man will be doing fine in life having retired from progaming.


is this a joke? savior is going to pay fines and/or go to jail. his future career doing anything is ruined.

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