EPTThird Match-fixing Trial, Hwasin as witness - Page 6
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Adjusted it would be like $6.5k in the US. If you think that's a miniscule amount for throwing a single game, then you must be one of those awesome internet guys on $200k/yr. After tax. | ||
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
But I find TossGirl much more pretty than alot alot girls out there... Maybe people compare TossGirl with a real star? I really find TossGirl very very pretty. Different people, different standard keke. | ||
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tedster
984 Posts
On July 09 2010 19:43 Lonyo wrote: It's not that miniscule. $2500 is like 1/7th the average yearly wage, just for throwing a single game. Adjusted it would be like $6.5k in the US. If you think that's a miniscule amount for throwing a single game, then you must be one of those awesome internet guys on $200k/yr. After tax. The reason it's so silly is because they could have just circumvented a huge portion of the risk by simply finding a proxy to bet on themselves while making a much larger profit. If you're already going to throw the game you may as well bet a huge amount of cash on it since your odds are approaching 100%. Dealing with shady characters in-person for $3k is not only a great way to get caught, but is also horribly inefficient and speaks of poor macro skills. | ||
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TacToSs
Australia330 Posts
Second time, Hwasin just caved in, he was already eliminated and Savior came in at the opportune time. Savior knew how to persuade him >< since he's already eliminated, why not lose intentionally and get more money, you're out so who cares? The last time, Hwasin felt bad and maybe even afraid of what might happen to him after he made that guy lose 20m won. You're already in deep once you've started participating in these underhanded activities, a simple apology won't suffice. Pretty hard to just say no more match fixing and hope nothing happens to you if you ask me. Oh and I <3 Tossgirl | ||
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Kerotan
England2111 Posts
I feel like the majority of the 11 got trapped, while still guilty, they where vulnerable to this sort of crime. And look what this mess did to fucking Sang Ho... It makes me sick. | ||
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fw
Korea (South)1201 Posts
On July 08 2010 16:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Jin first got the suggestion of match-fixing in the beginning of December 2009. On a chat in Battle.Net, Ma X told him: “I’ve been troubled recently. A hyung I know is doing match-fixing, he wants me to lose on purpose, and I don’t know if I should do it.” That’s when Jin first learned of match-fixing. Ma also said: “That hyung (a soccer player) is doing bets. If you throw a game, you can get rewarded. I was hesitant at first too, but Jin replied: “I have an OSL game, I’m already eliminated.” Ma then said: “ After that, Jin, according to the agreement, lost the game on purpose by making control errors. The day after the game, Ma gave Jin the money at a café near Jin’s dorm. Jin’s second fixed game was slightly different. The day before the SPL game on 2009 December 30th, Ma texted Jin and told him the opponent is going to play 2 factory management, but Jin still lost the game. After that, Ma said: “The hyung I know bet on you winning, and he lost 20 000 000, all because you lost. You should pay him back somehow. Do you have any games?” Jin said: “Even though I know the opponent’s opening, it’s still possible to lose in the macro game, I can’t guarantee that he won’t lose money.” But he also said: “After hearing that I caused him to lose money, I’m a bit After that, Jin again lost a game by making control errors according to the agreement, and again got 3 000 000 won in the same method as the price for losing. Also, 2 days before a game on 2010 January 19th against Park X, which he won, Ma texted him: “Don’t worry, someone will take care of it.” * i'm curious if Ma had fixed his own game, which is not clear in the original sentence. ** same as above. *** i was confused with the translation and wanted to make the fact clear. | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
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Cheeseburgered
United States716 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
Poor naive bastards. Very sad. | ||
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PhOeniX[MinD]
361 Posts
On July 09 2010 10:15 WhatisProtoss wrote: I really don't like this kind of argument. Reductio Ad Ridiculum. It's where you extend my argument to ridiculous proportions, and then you make fun of the result. Let's say that I don't like to drink water. Then, you might say, "WTF?! If you never drink water, you'll die in 3 days! You're so stupid." Just because I don't drink water doesn't mean I have gone to the extreme to restrict any form of water intake. Just because I said TossGirl wasn't hot doesn't mean I automatically date supermodels. That's ridiculous. (Or, Reductio Ad Ridiculum). TossGirl isn't hot. There are plenty of girls in Korea hotter than her. I have dated girls better looking than TossGirl. I have never dated a supermodel. agree i dont think she is hot she is kinnda old now. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.desda.science.ru.nl/starcraft/tossgirl3.jpg) "Old." Are half the people on this forum 12 year old brats? She's just one year older than I am. Since when is 25 old? Quit watching MTV's My Super Sweet Sixteen and check back in with real life. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On July 10 2010 11:46 Mortality wrote: + Show Spoiler + "Old." Are half the people on this forum 12 year old brats? She's just one year older than I am. Since when is 25 old? Quit watching MTV's My Super Sweet Sixteen and check back in with real life. So fucking true. I'm 28 and played dota the other day and some little fool tried to smack talk me and kept saying 'kid' 'son' etc. I just laughed and told him to get some manners and mentioned my age when he asked. People under 50 are not old. Seriously -_-. It's not relative (hence I chose a decent age not just 5-10 years older than I am) it's just sense. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On July 09 2010 10:15 WhatisProtoss wrote: I really don't like this kind of argument. Reductio Ad Ridiculum. It's where you extend my argument to ridiculous proportions, and then you make fun of the result. Let's say that I don't like to drink water. Then, you might say, "WTF?! If you never drink water, you'll die in 3 days! You're so stupid." Just because I don't drink water doesn't mean I have gone to the extreme to restrict any form of water intake. Just because I said TossGirl wasn't hot doesn't mean I automatically date supermodels. That's ridiculous. (Or, Reductio Ad Ridiculum). TossGirl isn't hot. There are plenty of girls in Korea hotter than her. I have dated girls better looking than TossGirl. I have never dated a supermodel. I disagree with you. I don't believe it's reductio ad ridiculum at all. You said she looks like a "middle-aged woman" which is both extreme and untrue. Then when someone attacks this overly exaggerated stance with the simple premise that your standards are set too high you turn around and accuse him of hyperbole. He stated that middle-aged women can be hot. True. He stated that toss-girl is above the mean in terms of looks. Most would agree with this. If we define hotness as above average through to exceedingly gorgeous than we should have no problem with his reasoning. If you decide that hotness is only someone who is exceedingly beautiful and then state that you have dated girls hotter than tossgirl, good for you I say. I love hearing fellow nerds do well - but scarecrow's comment is still valid. Here's a tip: quoting your 1st year philosophy classes back at people doesn't improve your argument. You did philosophy, maybe you even majored in it. So what. Most of tl are in uni or are graduates. It's condescending to quote this stuff to people. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
 CuteAngel for next boyfriend! | ||
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Al Bundy
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
On July 10 2010 15:18 BlackMagister wrote: Are there ever actual hints to who Tossgirl is dating or is all just rampant fanboy gossip. If there was an interview where this it was mentioned she was dating ok, but otherwise it's just silly because it can come up when any STX player is mentioned. Especially since talking about Tossgirl always distracts people from what is really important, that the players we liked can be scum. I remember hearing rumors that Tossgirl was dating Calm a year ago or so. Every STX player expect July has a chance of getting rumored to be dating Tossgirl, CuteAngel for next boyfriend!I remember an interview a while back where she said she's never had a boyfriend and doesn't even talk to anyone in STX except for Shuttle | ||
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iCDNME
Australia25 Posts
Given that underneath her glossy female exterior is a brooding zealot ready to give her life for Aiur, the normal conventions of dating don't apply to this special flower which needs to be gently caressed with extra reaver harass. | ||
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