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Third Match-fixing Trial, Hwasin as witness - Page 8

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malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States361 Posts
July 13 2010 14:17 GMT
#141
On July 13 2010 21:47 Qzy wrote:
Would love to see a match where both players are paid to loose..

... Lol.

IIRC there was some speculation that that happened in the third game of the savior vs upmagic Bo3: savior is trying to lose but 9 pools and scouts a 14cc first, so there's no way he can lose without making it obvious, hence all the weird facial expressions:

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Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
July 14 2010 08:01 GMT
#142
What makes TossGirl so hot is her amazing SEXY APM.
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
July 14 2010 18:52 GMT
#143
Ma said: “The hyung I know bet on you winning, and he lost 20 000 000, all because you lost. You should pay him back somehow. Do you have any games?”


This is so bogus. Unless this was more threatening, I can't see this making much sense. I don't think anyone should sympathise with Jin because clearly he's not above matchmaking. Had Ma said something like "Do it or else" or something along those lines, Jin might have felt pressure to 'pay him back'.

But I mean, really? What sort of idiot says things like "My friend bet money on you, and you lost so he lost money. You should pay him back" ?
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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Coca Cola Classic
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
266 Posts
July 14 2010 19:17 GMT
#144
I don't think you quite understand the korean culture and the respect that is demanded from hyungs...
안녕하세요~~
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
July 14 2010 19:17 GMT
#145
On July 15 2010 03:52 ThePassingShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
Ma said: “The hyung I know bet on you winning, and he lost 20 000 000, all because you lost. You should pay him back somehow. Do you have any games?”


This is so bogus. Unless this was more threatening, I can't see this making much sense. I don't think anyone should sympathise with Jin because clearly he's not above matchmaking. Had Ma said something like "Do it or else" or something along those lines, Jin might have felt pressure to 'pay him back'.

But I mean, really? What sort of idiot says things like "My friend bet money on you, and you lost so he lost money. You should pay him back" ?

1 - There might be something lost in translation.
2 - It's actually quite clearly threatening as it is. Euphemisms like that are classics in corruption ("He'd be very sad if you..." or "We're going to ask you a favor")

I'm not saying Hwasin is not guilty, but once you step into such a spiral, this is exactly why you cant really quit, unless you man up and confess to authorities asap, but then again - there's the hope of pulling it off without ever having to do that.
BW fighting!
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
July 14 2010 19:20 GMT
#146
Hwasin and tossgirl dated? Link?
quote? what quote?
Decker247
Profile Joined January 2010
United States44 Posts
July 18 2010 16:41 GMT
#147
On July 10 2010 18:39 iCDNME wrote:
The problem is that you guys think Tossgirl is a normal female.
Given that underneath her glossy female exterior is a brooding marine ready to shoot anyone, the normal conventions of dating don't apply to this special flower which needs to be gently caressed with extra vulture harass.

FIXED :D
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