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Third Match-fixing Trial, Hwasin as witness - Page 5

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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 08 2010 20:37 GMT
#81
I love how people who wouldn't be able to go out with someone like Tossgirl bash her as ugly. I'm sorry she doesn't meet your supermodel standards. This conversation got old two years ago.

If Hwasin was going out with Tossgirl, good for him. She's good looking and as a fellow progamer can understand his job better than any other girl on the planet.

Or could at the time, I should say.
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 20:42:23
July 08 2010 20:42 GMT
#82
sigh.

Hwasin.

Edit: What was the first and second trials? Which was Savior?
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
July 08 2010 20:48 GMT
#83
On July 09 2010 05:26 jalstar wrote:
i would bet that the unknown "hyung" is actually savior, it's the classic "my friend" technique

Show nested quote +
“The hyung I know bet on you winning, and he lost 20 000 000, all because you lost. You should pay him back somehow. Do you have any games?”

It's a little different though, since Korean culture is big about elder-honour, so it's different than saying "my friend", cuz you're saying "my elder (and thus more respectable, more wise, more intelligent, presumably)".
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iCDNME
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia25 Posts
July 08 2010 20:58 GMT
#84
No one is bashing her as ugly,i'm just gay for Bisu.
I see the enemy
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
July 08 2010 22:17 GMT
#85
Tossgirl is out of most progamers' league, except for a few like Hwasin and Bisu.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 08 2010 22:28 GMT
#86
Wow, Savior really was a dark stain on things. Hwasin got hustled.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 08 2010 22:31 GMT
#87
Lol, if I lost a match where I knew what the other guy was doing I still would not pay the guy who tipped me off. Since the other player was not in on the scam he was still trying to win. There are no guarantees.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
July 08 2010 22:49 GMT
#88
On July 09 2010 05:48 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 05:26 jalstar wrote:
i would bet that the unknown "hyung" is actually savior, it's the classic "my friend" technique

“The hyung I know bet on you winning, and he lost 20 000 000, all because you lost. You should pay him back somehow. Do you have any games?”

It's a little different though, since Korean culture is big about elder-honour, so it's different than saying "my friend", cuz you're saying "my elder (and thus more respectable, more wise, more intelligent, presumably)".


Savior could think of himself as more wise, intelligent, etc. : P
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
July 08 2010 22:50 GMT
#89
The word "savior" suddenly seems so petty and weak. who would've thought.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
July 09 2010 01:15 GMT
#90
On July 08 2010 22:18 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 22:15 WhatisProtoss wrote:
On July 08 2010 17:25 USn wrote:
On July 08 2010 16:53 iLoveKT wrote:
On July 08 2010 16:52 HaruHaru wrote:
i wonder if match fixing had to do with tossgirl breaking up with hwasin :/
that would have been a greater loss than his career imo

lol im pretty sure hwasin can easily get women 1000x hotter than tossgirl. not in jail though...


Sorry, I'd be hard pressed to find somebody 1000x hotter than tossgirl

Tossgirl is not hot at all... Look at pictures of her. She looks like a middle-aged woman with too much makeup. She was definitely cute as a kid, but the years have not been kind to her.

Middle aged women can be hot, and tossgirl definitely still qualifies. She's well above the mean, you only date supermodels?

I really don't like this kind of argument. Reductio Ad Ridiculum. It's where you extend my argument to ridiculous proportions, and then you make fun of the result.

Let's say that I don't like to drink water. Then, you might say, "WTF?! If you never drink water, you'll die in 3 days! You're so stupid." Just because I don't drink water doesn't mean I have gone to the extreme to restrict any form of water intake.

Just because I said TossGirl wasn't hot doesn't mean I automatically date supermodels. That's ridiculous. (Or, Reductio Ad Ridiculum). TossGirl isn't hot. There are plenty of girls in Korea hotter than her. I have dated girls better looking than TossGirl. I have never dated a supermodel.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8151 Posts
July 09 2010 01:19 GMT
#91
why are the MSL games vs kal mentioned at all? they werent mentioned at all in the article and now everyone think he dropped them on purpose?
Free Palestine
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
July 09 2010 01:33 GMT
#92
On July 09 2010 10:19 Ideas wrote:
why are the MSL games vs kal mentioned at all? they werent mentioned at all in the article and now everyone think he dropped them on purpose?


On July 08 2010 16:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

Jin said: “Even though I know the opponent’s opening, it’s still possible to lose in the macro game, I can’t guarantee that he won’t lose money.” But he also said: “After hearing that I caused him to lose money, I’m a bit guilty, so I told him I’ll lose the MSL game the next day and amend it.”

After that, Jin again lost a game by making control errors according to the agreement, and again got 3 000 000 won in the same method as the price for losing.

TranslatorBaa!
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
July 09 2010 01:34 GMT
#93
Savior is such a manipulative asshole. Hwasin isn't the brightest kid, is he? Models. :p
... Knowmsayin'?
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8151 Posts
July 09 2010 01:53 GMT
#94
On July 09 2010 10:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 10:19 Ideas wrote:
why are the MSL games vs kal mentioned at all? they werent mentioned at all in the article and now everyone think he dropped them on purpose?


Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 16:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

Jin said: “Even though I know the opponent’s opening, it’s still possible to lose in the macro game, I can’t guarantee that he won’t lose money.” But he also said: “After hearing that I caused him to lose money, I’m a bit guilty, so I told him I’ll lose the MSL game the next day and amend it.”

After that, Jin again lost a game by making control errors according to the agreement, and again got 3 000 000 won in the same method as the price for losing.



lol i need to read better :\
Free Palestine
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
July 09 2010 03:23 GMT
#95
He said one game and yet the whole series is linked.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
July 09 2010 03:41 GMT
#96
I feel Hwasin just thought of doing it ONCE. Because Savior say, I do it do keke.

Ah, the 2nd time is a little bit different. Savior told Hwasin build order. But why do the opponent do not make micro mistake and lose intentionally? Maybe it is just that opponent do not play fake matches and Savior know his build order because teammate?

Ah, Savior expected Hwasin to win but he lost. So Savior said u have to pay me back somehow.
Hwasin feeling guilty, wanted to repay him somehow.
Ah, of course Hwasin will not pay him in cash. So he decided, do it again. And earn easy money at the same time returning favor
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Pandonetho
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada321 Posts
July 09 2010 09:38 GMT
#97
I'm pretty disappointed with Hwasin for succumbing to this. He was one of my favourite Terran players. I also do feel bad for Leta as the others in this thread have said. Getting backstabbed by your team...
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 09 2010 09:50 GMT
#98
dammit hwasin
you were so cool.... ><

As for this Tossgirl thing. I personally do not find her very hot, but that's just my opinion.
I would not call her ugly though, I just find that mean to ever consider.
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1661 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 09:58:55
July 09 2010 09:58 GMT
#99
savior the pimp maestro.

"u fuckin noob you lost and i told you his build order?!!!!"
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
July 09 2010 10:00 GMT
#100
On July 09 2010 03:28 Arite wrote:
Pretty much half of Leta's team was match-fixing. It isn't too hard to ask one of them.

To be honest i'm pretty much sure that the whole team knew about it.

:/
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
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