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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 11 2010 03:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2010 03:09 Plexa wrote:On May 10 2010 12:14 Chill wrote:
Guess I'm the only one not impressed with that game. Terran shenanigans dying to conventional macro. The lockdown was sick though. No I agree with you Chill, the game was better than average but I've seen wayyyyy better games. I find it amusing that so many people from SC2 find that game incredible It's not that the game itself was that good in terms of playing (and actually it was damn disappointing that Free won at the end) but Hyia's build was just sick. 2 port wraiths into ninja expo + nuke with lockdown vs arbiters is the most original and balsy shit we have seen in TvP since Boxer golden age. Uhh... that's just not correct. However, I will say that it is the most original and ballsy shit we've seen all year but going back to boxer? That's just wrong lol.
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On May 11 2010 04:21 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2010 03:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 11 2010 03:09 Plexa wrote:On May 10 2010 12:14 Chill wrote:
Guess I'm the only one not impressed with that game. Terran shenanigans dying to conventional macro. The lockdown was sick though. No I agree with you Chill, the game was better than average but I've seen wayyyyy better games. I find it amusing that so many people from SC2 find that game incredible It's not that the game itself was that good in terms of playing (and actually it was damn disappointing that Free won at the end) but Hyia's build was just sick. 2 port wraiths into ninja expo + nuke with lockdown vs arbiters is the most original and balsy shit we have seen in TvP since Boxer golden age. Uhh... that's just not correct. However, I will say that it is the most original and ballsy shit we've seen all year but going back to boxer? That's just wrong lol.
Ok, ok, ok, I slightly exagerate. But seriously, do you see 2 ports wraith TvP into nuke every day in such important occasion?
Maybe it's a mistake to hype this game more than it should but sayinng "meh it was not that entertaining" is just wrong too. Everybody was jizzing his pants on the chat of the stream.
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Awesome game! Enjoyed it very much from start to finish. The last milisecond lockdown and scv steal was hilarious! ^_^ <3 Broodwar!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 11 2010 04:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2010 04:21 Plexa wrote:On May 11 2010 03:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 11 2010 03:09 Plexa wrote:On May 10 2010 12:14 Chill wrote:
Guess I'm the only one not impressed with that game. Terran shenanigans dying to conventional macro. The lockdown was sick though. No I agree with you Chill, the game was better than average but I've seen wayyyyy better games. I find it amusing that so many people from SC2 find that game incredible It's not that the game itself was that good in terms of playing (and actually it was damn disappointing that Free won at the end) but Hyia's build was just sick. 2 port wraiths into ninja expo + nuke with lockdown vs arbiters is the most original and balsy shit we have seen in TvP since Boxer golden age. Uhh... that's just not correct. However, I will say that it is the most original and ballsy shit we've seen all year but going back to boxer? That's just wrong lol. Ok, ok, ok, I slightly exagerate. But seriously, do you see 2 ports wraith TvP into nuke every day in such important occasion? Maybe it's a mistake to hype this game more than it should but sayinng "meh it was not that entertaining" is just wrong too. Everybody was jizzing his pants on the chat of the stream.
Well I said the game was better than your average game, just that I've seen far better games played out. I mean, look at Bisu vs Iris on Byzantium for instance! Or for something more recent, Flash vs Kal (not as awesome as Bisu vs iris though).
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I think it had the potential to be a really amazing game, if HiyA's strat was a little more fleshed out and practiced. And in this day and age of generic macro games its strats like these that really get peoples excitement up. I applaud hiya for even trying.
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On May 11 2010 04:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2010 04:21 Plexa wrote:On May 11 2010 03:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 11 2010 03:09 Plexa wrote:On May 10 2010 12:14 Chill wrote:
Guess I'm the only one not impressed with that game. Terran shenanigans dying to conventional macro. The lockdown was sick though. No I agree with you Chill, the game was better than average but I've seen wayyyyy better games. I find it amusing that so many people from SC2 find that game incredible It's not that the game itself was that good in terms of playing (and actually it was damn disappointing that Free won at the end) but Hyia's build was just sick. 2 port wraiths into ninja expo + nuke with lockdown vs arbiters is the most original and balsy shit we have seen in TvP since Boxer golden age. Uhh... that's just not correct. However, I will say that it is the most original and ballsy shit we've seen all year but going back to boxer? That's just wrong lol. Ok, ok, ok, I slightly exagerate. But seriously, do you see 2 ports wraith TvP into nuke every day in such important occasion? Maybe it's a mistake to hype this game more than it should but sayinng "meh it was not that entertaining" is just wrong too. Everybody was jizzing his pants on the chat of the stream.
No, I don't think you're exaggerating. Planning out such a strategy for a semifinal game is just epic. You could argue that the fantasy build was similar, but this is ... cloaked wraiths and nukes in TvP ~!~!~!~!
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Amzing bo5 overall, glad i watched all games live.
On May 11 2010 04:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2010 04:21 Plexa wrote:On May 11 2010 03:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 11 2010 03:09 Plexa wrote:On May 10 2010 12:14 Chill wrote:
Guess I'm the only one not impressed with that game. Terran shenanigans dying to conventional macro. The lockdown was sick though. No I agree with you Chill, the game was better than average but I've seen wayyyyy better games. I find it amusing that so many people from SC2 find that game incredible It's not that the game itself was that good in terms of playing (and actually it was damn disappointing that Free won at the end) but Hyia's build was just sick. 2 port wraiths into ninja expo + nuke with lockdown vs arbiters is the most original and balsy shit we have seen in TvP since Boxer golden age. Uhh... that's just not correct. However, I will say that it is the most original and ballsy shit we've seen all year but going back to boxer? That's just wrong lol. Ok, ok, ok, I slightly exagerate. But seriously, do you see 2 ports wraith TvP into nuke every day in such important occasion? Maybe it's a mistake to hype this game more than it should but sayinng "meh it was not that entertaining" is just wrong too. Everybody was jizzing his pants on the chat of the stream.
totally agree with you, and you are not exaggerating!
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Looooooool damn if only hiya won lol
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That game was worth waking up at 4am. Poor Hiya, calling down all that thunder...
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
Absolutely legit play from Hiya. Had he gone around the map killing all the neutral arbiters, he might have had a much better shot at winning. Free was pretty much taking free arbiters every chance he could when he had energy. Had Hiya not been completely disrupted by multiple recalls, he might have put up a better shot when he transitioned to a ground army later on.
Props to Free for not completely losing his cool during the game; although he did have some very questionable moves in game.
I think everyone's just hyped and excited cause Free got nuked. Everyone gets excited when a nuke appears. It's like when Casy nuke rushed Jy into retirement or when Boxer nuked Killer and Yellow.
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i remember making a similar post to why i find sc1 better it got attacked by the sc2 mob(sc2 fanatics), throwing personal insults and all on me because i wrote my opinion.
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sc2 is still just a beta. give it some fucking time. it took sc1 years to get at the great state it is now
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ahh man, free vs hiya was just too epic.
Unorthodox TvP ftw.
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this game made me dislike ghosts even more, since in SC2 the have EMP and it can reveal invisible units... but that lockdown was beast
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I came watching that game.
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More seriously, Triathalon is a ridiculously silly map, and Starcraft II could use some funky maps too. Present SC II is reminding me of people playing Destination (Steppes of War) and and Python (Lost Temple, Metalopolis) exclusively back in the day.
Well for SC2, it is, as you said, 'back in the day'.
Give it time. The Map Editor alone will see SC2 grow into something special.
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On May 11 2010 08:59 Devski wrote:
sc2 is still just a beta. give it some fucking time. it took sc1 years to get at the great state it is now
How old was the genre back in the days of SC:BW? How much experience about RTS could they possibly have had? And how about now, so many years later?
It's really disappointing so far. People dislike SC2 because it doesn't live up to their expectations which they have because they know so much about RTS. Blizzard should have the same amount of experience, but however could not make the game that good so far. Also, they seem only to change balance slightly. Make this and that skill an upgrade instead of instantly available, tune some values. But they barely try to implement stuff like spectacular micro.
It just feels like the very foundation of the game might be a failure already.
Of course Broodwar was not planned the way it tourned out so many years later. However, people didn't realize how many options and things there were because there were too few games to compare it with. SC2 has its predecessor and many other games it can be compared with and people know how sick macro or micro can look like, however they cannot reach it with the game base given.
They know the options they used to have and now they're gone. Filling this huge APM gap only with slightly more positioning or a bit better focus firing? How boring is that?
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I think the gameplay of SC2 can be just as fun and deep given time. The problem is that it's not as fun to spectate as BW. Units tend to crunch together, and there's so much crap on the screen that it's kinda hard to see what's going on in a late game battle.
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OK, let's try this again.
Notice there's a reason why nobody compares SC2 to SC1?
You know, that strategy game without lurkers, medics, corsairs, all those fun things?
Apparently SC2 has a few expansions on the way.
Oh and the actual game as well. Forgot about that.
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