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Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 09:27:02
April 12 2010 09:22 GMT
#141
On April 12 2010 18:13 Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 17:46 Radiomouse wrote:
On April 12 2010 16:51 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 16:48 Radiomouse wrote:
On April 12 2010 16:39 k20a wrote:
Lol no respect loss from me, do what you gotta do to get money. How many of you can actually say that if someone offered you potentially thousands upon thousands of dollars to throw a game you wouldn't do it? C'monnnnnnnnnnn


You are such a douchebag.

Money isn't all there is to it, never mind that he's already making money off of doing something he should love.

Even though making 2 million dollars seems alluring, what do you really get from it if you already make 100k a year(which is already quite a bit of money, especially in korea if i understand it correctly).


2 million = 20 years at 100k/year you know. This is a pretty bad reasoning.




I guess some people are materialistic enough though to want more than 1 house and expensive cars which don't add anything. People just seem to think that money = happiness even though it isn't that simple. And selling out for the sake of being a millionaire will probably end up being a bad decision if you have any sort of decency and respect for yourself and the game you play.


Think about it, man. 2 Million is enough to live on for the rest of your life, easily. Without touching the principal. Who says he couldn't play Starcraft? He wouldn't need a job he could do whatever the hell he wanted.

I would take 2mil ez. Life is solved with 2 million if you don't fail with investing.


The issue isn't the money since everyone would take the cash but the issue is being so short sighted that you think you'll get away with it. Life isn't solved if you get busted, get thrown in jail, lose access to that cash anyway, and have a permanent scar on your record.

When you're doing 2 million USD worth of shady deals, you're definitely going to get busted. The question is when.

On April 12 2010 18:21 sArite_nite wrote:
Lmao this is turning into the Mafia.

[Jaedong, Stork, Bisu, (the Dons)] and [Leta, Fantasy, Savior, Effort, Movie (the Hitmen)] wtf.

Bigtime police crackdown busts everyone.

Is Flash the secret undercover agent or is he really Kira? Did he find the Bonjwa note (or robbed Type-B of it?) or is he the hero of the whole town?

Tune in to find out.


Funnily enough, I think Flash would literally be too immature, innocent, and honest to purposely throw games. Reading his GOM interviews, the guy is the biggest mumma's boy.
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
April 12 2010 09:24 GMT
#142
On April 12 2010 18:22 Kwanroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 18:13 Romantic wrote:
On April 12 2010 17:46 Radiomouse wrote:
On April 12 2010 16:51 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 16:48 Radiomouse wrote:
On April 12 2010 16:39 k20a wrote:
Lol no respect loss from me, do what you gotta do to get money. How many of you can actually say that if someone offered you potentially thousands upon thousands of dollars to throw a game you wouldn't do it? C'monnnnnnnnnnn


You are such a douchebag.

Money isn't all there is to it, never mind that he's already making money off of doing something he should love.

Even though making 2 million dollars seems alluring, what do you really get from it if you already make 100k a year(which is already quite a bit of money, especially in korea if i understand it correctly).


2 million = 20 years at 100k/year you know. This is a pretty bad reasoning.




I guess some people are materialistic enough though to want more than 1 house and expensive cars which don't add anything. People just seem to think that money = happiness even though it isn't that simple. And selling out for the sake of being a millionaire will probably end up being a bad decision if you have any sort of decency and respect for yourself and the game you play.


Think about it, man. 2 Million is enough to live on for the rest of your life, easily. Without touching the principal. Who says he couldn't play Starcraft? He wouldn't need a job he could do whatever the hell he wanted.

I would take 2mil ez. Life is solved with 2 million if you don't fail with investing.


The issue isn't the money since everyone would take the cash but the issue is being so short sighted that you think you'll get away with it. Life isn't solved if you get busted, get thrown in jail, lose access to that cash anyway, and have a permanent scar on your record.
Well, i am assuming he was smart enough to hide the extra money from their tax system etc. I am mainly saying that to counter the morality argument of taking the mils
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
April 12 2010 09:24 GMT
#143
you know, i've thought about this a bit, and i think throwing games is what happens when you don't pay your gamers enough compared to how much money the corporations are making, and treat them like shit.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
April 12 2010 09:26 GMT
#144
Wow..... this is preety sick i wonder whats gonna happen now they will retire now and if convicted go to jail maybe?

Stork, Bisu, JD, Effort, Leta, Savior etc im disapoint....
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51707 Posts
April 12 2010 09:27 GMT
#145
does the dc inside link work for anyone?

i get 해당 게시물은 삭제 되었습니다
Commentator
Fish_Baguettes
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia589 Posts
April 12 2010 09:28 GMT
#146
On April 12 2010 18:27 GTR wrote:
does the dc inside link work for anyone?

i get 해당 게시물은 삭제 되었습니다


Thats what i get i think the post got removed
_awake_
Profile Joined August 2007
196 Posts
April 12 2010 09:29 GMT
#147
its korean liquibet

savior made the right move if he did indeed bet on himself against bisu. if you're stupid enough to participate in illegal gambling, then you deserve to lose your money.
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
April 12 2010 09:29 GMT
#148
this is honestly fucking heart breaking
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 12 2010 09:30 GMT
#149
On April 12 2010 15:56 Sadistx wrote:
(Z)sAviOr: I will destroy everyone in 2010.
Unless you pay me not to.


That's just cruel man
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
SultanVinegar
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States372 Posts
April 12 2010 09:30 GMT
#150
really hoping that list was fake
I'm a Flash man.
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
April 12 2010 09:34 GMT
#151
Wow this is just crazy. Would make perfect sense though considering all the upsets and slumping lately
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
April 12 2010 09:35 GMT
#152
If it's true it's pretty much the end for SC1 progaming, given the extensive list of names. And even cutting out all those players would never remove the stench and people would cry wolf every time they see a bad match.
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
April 12 2010 09:40 GMT
#153
On April 12 2010 17:58 29 fps wrote:
There's a list of names in the middle of the page. I'll list the ones I know.

Myung Soo (yarnc), Chan Soo (Luxury), Sang Ho (Sangho), Jung Woo (Effort), Yong Hwa (Movie), Jae Yoon (???), Taek Yong (Bisu), Byong Goo (Sotkr), Jae Wook (Best), il Jang (???), Myung Hoon (???), Heui Seung (sp? and dunno who), Jae Dong (Jaedong), Sang Moon (Leta), Jong Seo (???), Chang Hee (gogo??)

that's just a list in the middle. i only know the names, so i don't know if that's the list of suspects or what not.


OMGGGG YARNC LUX SANGHO

ok effort.. that might really be the reason he's sucking so bad now T___T
movie as well? wtf but he's in both leagues so far.. i guess he threw a few random games here and there :S?
BISU>!<! omg holy shit
stork isn't winning much either lately but then who knows..
best.

hero... fantasy too wtf?
upmagic..
jaedong and leta even!?! GOGO? lol this list is crazy
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3851 Posts
April 12 2010 09:40 GMT
#154
The current OSL/MSL sponsors must be somewhat pissed
: o )
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
April 12 2010 09:40 GMT
#155
Jesus fucking Christ...
TranslatorBaa!
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
April 12 2010 09:40 GMT
#156
Hmmm...pretty interesting stuff....

just like when a crapton of hackers were busted over at iCCup and we had to stand our ground about not tolerating hackers.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
April 12 2010 09:41 GMT
#157
On April 12 2010 18:24 o[twist] wrote:
you know, i've thought about this a bit, and i think throwing games is what happens when you don't pay your gamers enough compared to how much money the corporations are making, and treat them like shit.


The thing is these corporations still fucking look down on their players. It doesn't matter that it's Korea, every fucking place on earth looks down on gamers if they themselves aren't one.

Gaming itself is unproductive and does not produce anything of value, to these people. The culture in Korea is an anomaly which allowed Esports to grow.

It's just unfair that youths are being exploited for their love of the game. The corporations are certainly getting their big bucks off the advertising the players give them.

Still, it's a better deal than anything you and me can hope for. I'm pretty sure we see things from a different perspective as compared to a pro-gamer. Even NoNy plays for the fun of it, and wins USD10k for the fun of it (not literally, but you get the point; he still had to practice hard for it, but it's not his main field of work).

If anyone really wanted them to pay gamers more, what points can be brought up? They'll just shove it back in the proposer's face. The corporations provide food, lodging, an environment to people who practically bring in nothing besides advertisement value, and only to a niche market.

I think even if they gave a hefty budget to the teams, the advertisement value would only increase marginally.

Which brings me back to this incident. I just, really, really want a good outcome to come of it. Like players getting a fine, but their living and working conditions/pay/etc get raised.

I mean, come to think of it, no wonder Fantasy keeps going for his fantasy build T_T
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7218 Posts
April 12 2010 09:42 GMT
#158
SAVIOR IS A MOTHER FUC::::::: OMG SAVIOR WHYYYYY I AM YOUR FAN WHYYY,
NOT NOT MORE YOU CAN DIE FOR ME
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
April 12 2010 09:42 GMT
#159
On April 12 2010 18:24 o[twist] wrote:
you know, i've thought about this a bit, and i think throwing games is what happens when you don't pay your gamers enough compared to how much money the corporations are making, and treat them like shit.



I've just been lurking through rekrul's various threads and now this one, but this is the first comment that prompted me to reply. I wholeheartedly agree!
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
April 12 2010 09:42 GMT
#160
oh my . . . just purely shocked . . . starcraft world totally crumbling. I can't even type properly.
Favorite Progamers in order: JangBi, Kwanro, Really, DarkElf
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