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Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 08:36 GMT
#101
Won't it be weird now if it turns out sAviOr wasn't involved? That seems like a big if, but still...

Anyway, assuming he did it, it was probably worth it. Sure, he will lose his fans, his job etc, but these are temporary things that he would have lost eventually anyway (when he retired). The money is forever!
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
April 12 2010 08:37 GMT
#102
isnt he just going to blow it on hookers anyway
HEY MEYT
stylez
Profile Joined April 2008
United States67 Posts
April 12 2010 08:38 GMT
#103
no wonder he forgot adrenal glands
Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
April 12 2010 08:39 GMT
#104
On April 12 2010 17:36 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
Won't it be weird now if it turns out sAviOr wasn't involved? That seems like a big if, but still...


Not really. It would merely be yet another example of the drearily predictable human failing of being willing to condemn people as guilty in the absence of proof or even evidence.
We are vigilant.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
April 12 2010 08:40 GMT
#105
I think we should all calm down a bit. Aren't all of these only rumors so far?
( ・´ー・`)
tYsopz
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway215 Posts
April 12 2010 08:41 GMT
#106
On April 12 2010 16:39 k20a wrote:
Lol no respect loss from me, do what you gotta do to get money. How many of you can actually say that if someone offered you potentially thousands upon thousands of dollars to throw a game you wouldn't do it? C'monnnnnnnnnnn


I seriously hope that's a really a bad attempt at trolling. You represent just about everything that's wrong with the world.
"I'm going to send them to a far far distant place called Disneyland. Safe and sound at their own convenience, at the fastest and cheapest rate." - Lee Sung Eun
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2010 08:43 GMT
#107
On April 12 2010 17:37 JohnColtrane wrote:
isnt he just going to blow it on hookers anyway


Very expensive hookers
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
April 12 2010 08:44 GMT
#108
It's not better for the game to keep it secret. Best to release exactly which games were tainted, so that we can just move on without having to question everything.
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
April 12 2010 08:44 GMT
#109
Article updated with new sources.
Radiomouse
Profile Joined November 2009
Netherlands209 Posts
April 12 2010 08:46 GMT
#110
On April 12 2010 16:51 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 16:48 Radiomouse wrote:
On April 12 2010 16:39 k20a wrote:
Lol no respect loss from me, do what you gotta do to get money. How many of you can actually say that if someone offered you potentially thousands upon thousands of dollars to throw a game you wouldn't do it? C'monnnnnnnnnnn


You are such a douchebag.

Money isn't all there is to it, never mind that he's already making money off of doing something he should love.

Even though making 2 million dollars seems alluring, what do you really get from it if you already make 100k a year(which is already quite a bit of money, especially in korea if i understand it correctly).


2 million = 20 years at 100k/year you know. This is a pretty bad reasoning.


I was meaning that the extra 1.9 million(or actually it was 900k, seeing as the 2 million was supposed to be banked in 2 years) doesn't really add that much. Yes you can buy an extra house and a couple of extra cars. But if you love what you're doing and you're not a materialist you gain nothing by taking the bribe and risk destroying everything.

I guess some people are materialistic enough though to want more than 1 house and expensive cars which don't add anything. People just seem to think that money = happiness even though it isn't that simple. And selling out for the sake of being a millionaire will probably end up being a bad decision if you have any sort of decency and respect for yourself and the game you play.
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
April 12 2010 08:49 GMT
#111
Wow.. this will be interesting and possibly very sad to follow.
4649!!
Mallard
Profile Joined January 2010
United States129 Posts
April 12 2010 08:49 GMT
#112
On April 12 2010 15:53 gaggar wrote:

There is no solid list yet, but the (in)famous DC starcraft gallery is being flooded with what is apparently a post by an insider who spammed the forum before any of this came to light.

http://gall.dcinside.com/list.php?id=starcraft&no=4845648&page=1&bbs=

The list is in Korean but it's not for the feint hearted.


Since it is an image I can't get it translated. Could someone maybe give a summary? :x
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
April 12 2010 08:50 GMT
#113
On April 12 2010 17:46 Radiomouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 16:51 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 16:48 Radiomouse wrote:
On April 12 2010 16:39 k20a wrote:
Lol no respect loss from me, do what you gotta do to get money. How many of you can actually say that if someone offered you potentially thousands upon thousands of dollars to throw a game you wouldn't do it? C'monnnnnnnnnnn


You are such a douchebag.

Money isn't all there is to it, never mind that he's already making money off of doing something he should love.

Even though making 2 million dollars seems alluring, what do you really get from it if you already make 100k a year(which is already quite a bit of money, especially in korea if i understand it correctly).


2 million = 20 years at 100k/year you know. This is a pretty bad reasoning.


I was meaning that the extra 1.9 million(or actually it was 900k, seeing as the 2 million was supposed to be banked in 2 years) doesn't really add that much. Yes you can buy an extra house and a couple of extra cars. But if you love what you're doing and you're not a materialist you gain nothing by taking the bribe and risk destroying everything.

I guess some people are materialistic enough though to want more than 1 house and expensive cars which don't add anything. People just seem to think that money = happiness even though it isn't that simple. And selling out for the sake of being a millionaire will probably end up being a bad decision if you have any sort of decency and respect for yourself and the game you play.


do they really love what they are doing though? they might have lost the passion and the joy of the game after all those hard years of training for 12 hours a day, and just continue because its all they know
HEY MEYT
gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
April 12 2010 08:54 GMT
#114
On April 12 2010 17:49 Mallard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 15:53 gaggar wrote:

There is no solid list yet, but the (in)famous DC starcraft gallery is being flooded with what is apparently a post by an insider who spammed the forum before any of this came to light.

http://gall.dcinside.com/list.php?id=starcraft&no=4845648&page=1&bbs=

The list is in Korean but it's not for the feint hearted.


Since it is an image I can't get it translated. Could someone maybe give a summary? :x


Numbered pointers talks about what they do and don't when betting and fixing matches. e.g. you can't tell the poor player to fix his game.

Second part talks about how he lost a lot of money on a match he couldn't lose, and got in contact with a pro who told him the gist of what happened

And then there's the list.

And he talks about who will leave the team as a scapegoat. Not everyone gets punished.

Lastly he says that players slumping right now are mostly because of the extensive investigation going on behind the curtains, and that everyone will see what he means once we get to the starleague finals.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
April 12 2010 08:55 GMT
#115
On April 12 2010 17:46 Radiomouse wrote:

I was meaning that the extra 1.9 million(or actually it was 900k, seeing as the 2 million was supposed to be banked in 2 years) doesn't really add that much. Yes you can buy an extra house and a couple of extra cars. But if you love what you're doing and you're not a materialist you gain nothing by taking the bribe and risk destroying everything.

I guess some people are materialistic enough though to want more than 1 house and expensive cars which don't add anything. People just seem to think that money = happiness even though it isn't that simple. And selling out for the sake of being a millionaire will probably end up being a bad decision if you have any sort of decency and respect for yourself and the game you play.


you, Sir, are quite idealistic. You do know there is a whole Life after those 3-4 years being paid 100k? 2million isnt gonna buy you a second house, it's going to allow you to spend your whole *LIFE* confortable if you're careful. Cause you Never know what's gonna happen next.

Stop thinking about *bling bling i show off with my big cars* and think about Life a bit it could even be of use to your dear parents or family etc...
NoiR
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
April 12 2010 08:56 GMT
#116
NOOOOO!!

The image contains the words KT and CJ

LUXURY AND SAVIOR??
( ・´ー・`)
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
April 12 2010 08:58 GMT
#117
There's a list of names in the middle of the page. I'll list the ones I know.

Myung Soo (yarnc), Chan Soo (Luxury), Sang Ho (Sangho), Jung Woo (Effort), Yong Hwa (Movie), Jae Yoon (???), Taek Yong (Bisu), Byong Goo (Sotkr), Jae Wook (Best), il Jang (???), Myung Hoon (???), Heui Seung (sp? and dunno who), Jae Dong (Jaedong), Sang Moon (Leta), Jong Seo (???), Chang Hee (gogo??)

that's just a list in the middle. i only know the names, so i don't know if that's the list of suspects or what not.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
April 12 2010 08:58 GMT
#118
Some years ago (like pre-Savior age) I used to have this feeling that some Top matches were so absurd and so that they had to be forged.
Time has passed and everything seemed to be ok...

Now when it comes to this I should be surprised, however I'm not.
In any Pro-sport things like these happen in larger or smaller scales.

Now considering the huge presence that StarCraft has in Korea and the slave camp conditions that the players have to train/live in daily the outcome is inevitable.
Long-term inhuman conditions in general lead to extended moral decay.
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
April 12 2010 09:02 GMT
#119
myung hoon = fantasy
jong seo is probably justin (maybe misspelled jong seok)
jae yoon = savior
il jang = jo il jang not sure , but some zerg player
heui seung = upmagic
changhee = go.go
www.memoryexpress.com
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
April 12 2010 09:03 GMT
#120
That list is more than a bit disheartening, without the context to go on anyway.
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