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buickskylark
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StarN
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Stropheum
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buickskylark
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FortuneSyn
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On March 02 2010 04:07 buickskylark wrote: 9-10 hours? That is utterly insane. Most athletes don't train that much. they would if their bodies could take it, but they don't because their bodies can't. | ||
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StarN
United States2587 Posts
On March 02 2010 04:07 buickskylark wrote: 9-10 hours? That is utterly insane. Most athletes don't train that much. difference is that there isn't as much physical strain with e-sports as opposed to sports. If you practice too much soccer or Cage Fighting then you get warn out that it becomes a detriment to your health. Any competitive activity that doesn't have that physical strain people generally tend to train longer hours and it's more dependent on how strong your mental focus is. Many Pianists I know at my music school practice 8-10 hours a day (even though that itself is very difficult on your wrists at a certain point) | ||
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rkarhu
Finland570 Posts
On March 02 2010 04:07 buickskylark wrote: 9-10 hours? That is utterly insane. Most athletes don't train that much. That's because you cant really push yourself that hard physically if you want to improve. Even a top atlethes body cant take more than 4 hours of physically demanding exercise per day (not every day) and even that is borderline risky. Of course this isn't factoring the recovering exercises in (stretching and so on). Then again I question the 10-12 hours per day training. I think that much training will affect your mental and physical condition to a degree that you wont play to your fullest. I believe that recovery and relaxing is important in esports too (if for nothing else then for your motivation). edit: beat to it, 2 times actually :_P | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8195 Posts
I am a musician, and I can tell you that practicing 10 hours in one day is basically spending all your time on it. Not going outside, not meeting friends. Practice, eat, take a shower, make one or two breaks not to become a zombi every two/three hours, and your day is over. I know it is not the same, because playing a music instrument (except maybe piano, where at least you sit) is wayyyy more tiring and physical than playing starcraft, and you need much more breaks. Most people can't practice more than 5-6 hours in one day. Now theses people play tournaments, they have to go there, to wait, they watch games, they chat on the internet and with friends at least a little bit, they do some gym, even a minimum, and sometimes they give interview. That makes a 12 hours on a daily basis straight impossible. So I guess a good guess would be an average of 8 - 10 hours for the most crazy ones of actually playing the game. | ||
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buickskylark
Canada664 Posts
On March 02 2010 04:09 StarN wrote: difference is that there isn't as much physical strain with e-sports as opposed to sports. If you practice too much soccer or Cage Fighting then you get warn out that it becomes a detriment to your health. Any competitive activity that doesn't have that physical strain people generally tend to train longer hours and it's more dependent on how strong your mental focus is. Many Pianists I know at my music school practice 8-10 hours a day (even though that itself is very difficult on your wrists at a certain point) do u go to a musical school? Do you yourself practice 8-10 hours? | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
On March 02 2010 04:17 Biff The Understudy wrote: I do think that they exagerate, and I don't believe that most progamers practice 12 hours a day. I am a musician, and I can tell you that practicing 10 hours in one day is basically spending all your time on it. Not going outside, not meeting friends. Practice, eat, take a shower, make one or two breaks not to become a zombi every two/three hours, and your day is over. I know it is not the same, because playing a music instrument (except maybe piano, where at least you sit) is wayyyy more tiring and physical than playing starcraft, and you need much more breaks. Most people can't practice more than 5-6 hours in one day. Now theses people play tournaments, they have to go there, to wait, they watch games, they chat on the internet and with friends at least a little bit, they do some gym, even a minimum, and sometimes they give interview. That makes a 12 hours on a daily basis straight impossible. So I guess a good guess would be an average of 8 - 10 hours for the most crazy ones of actually playing the game. Ummm, they aren't exaggerating. That is all they do. Many pianists and classical guitar players play upwards of 8-10 hours daily. That is all they do. The A-teamers may get away with less, but I doubt it. Probably never less than 8 if they are a "serious" team member. I remember reading that John Coltrane (jazz musician I imagine you've heard of) would often practice 12-14 hours a day. And that's a lot of physical exertion playing saxophone that much. | ||
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WheelOfTime
Canada331 Posts
On March 02 2010 04:17 Biff The Understudy wrote: I do think that they exagerate, and I don't believe that most progamers practice 12 hours a day. I am a musician, and I can tell you that practicing 10 hours in one day is basically spending all your time on it. Most people can't practice more than 5-6 hours in one day. You fail quite hard. Clearly, you're not a very good musician, and you're pretty narrow-sighted for thinking "Most people can't practice more than 5-6 hours in one day". 24 hrs in a day, with 7 hrs going to sleep and 3 hrs for food/breaks/washroom, that's still 14 hours of practice everyday. Hell, I know music majors who practice their instruments 12 hrs and study for 4 hrs a day consistently. Just because you don't have enough willpower and are narrow-sighted, doesn't mean everyone else is. | ||
NonY
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On March 02 2010 04:17 Biff The Understudy wrote: I do think that they exagerate, and I don't believe that most progamers practice 12 hours a day. I am a musician, and I can tell you that practicing 10 hours in one day is basically spending all your time on it. Not going outside, not meeting friends. Practice, eat, take a shower, make one or two breaks not to become a zombi every two/three hours, and your day is over. I know it is not the same, because playing a music instrument (except maybe piano, where at least you sit) is wayyyy more tiring and physical than playing starcraft, and you need much more breaks. Most people can't practice more than 5-6 hours in one day. Now theses people play tournaments, they have to go there, to wait, they watch games, they chat on the internet and with friends at least a little bit, they do some gym, even a minimum, and sometimes they give interview. That makes a 12 hours on a daily basis straight impossible. So I guess a good guess would be an average of 8 - 10 hours for the most crazy ones of actually playing the game. estro had 11 hours mandatory. b-team would get half a day off about once a week. a-team would sometimes get full days off and they'd also all travel to proleague matches. some people like nsp_action and say[join] would play during their break times so they'd play 12+ hours in a day it's my opinion that training that many hours isn't optimal. but it is the standard method in korea and it gets results | ||
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buickskylark
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On March 02 2010 04:09 FortuneSyn wrote: they would if their bodies could take it, but they don't because their bodies can't. What's your point...? | ||
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T.O.P.
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buickskylark
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r4j2ill
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[DUF]MethodMan
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On March 02 2010 04:49 r4j2ill wrote: lol i would get bored of starcraft if i had to play it longer than 2 hours continuously. it looks all glamous and cool but a life of professional athletes is sad ;D only some actually make it to true success fixed | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8195 Posts
On March 02 2010 04:26 WheelOfTime wrote: You fail quite hard. Clearly, you're not a very good musician, and you're pretty narrow-sighted for thinking "Most people can't practice more than 5-6 hours in one day". 24 hrs in a day, with 7 hrs going to sleep and 3 hrs for food/breaks/washroom, that's still 14 hours of practice everyday. Hell, I know music majors who practice their instruments 12 hrs and study for 4 hrs a day consistently. Just because you don't have enough willpower and are narrow-sighted, doesn't mean everyone else is. Sigh. If you don't know what you are talking about, don't make dumb judgements. I am not narrow sighted, and I am training in one of the best music school in Europe. So maybe I know better than you what I talk about. And I have been playing in top orchestras, with top players. Have you played, let say, viola, once in your life? No. So let me tell you, most musicians arounds me don't have the muscles and the physical endurance to practice more than 5-6 hours regularly. If not they just break their back. Because when you are a 1 metre 60 japanese lady, you have limits, physical limits. You can play in orchestra 9 hours a day, because in orchestra you don't actually play all the time and you are sit down. Personnal practice means playing often very intensely most of the time. I can practice uo to eught hours, and I am healthy. More than that, I fall apart. And someone like Auer, I know you have never heard about him was saying his students, like Heifetz or Milstein, not more than 5 hours violin a day, because more is destructive. If you have the muscles to practice a violin Brahms concerto or something like that 11 hours a day, that's good for you. I tell you that most people can't. Now my point that to practice 8 hours, you need to block 10 or 11 hours of youur time. Because you need breaks, even if you are superman, both for your body and your mind. And in a life, you need to do some other stuff. Like Shopping to eat, make your fucking lundery, go to college, and do administrrative stuff. And meet friends from time to time, take lessons in college, walk from one place to another, relax a little bit, cook, etc etc etc etc etc etc So unless you sleep 3 hours a day, practicing 12 hours on a regular basis is plain impossible. So please, just shut up instead of saying stupid thinks. | ||
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