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Flash's MSL Story - Page 13

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yumy
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany17 Posts
January 27 2010 03:23 GMT
#241
So thats what an mature player looks like. Great interview. Good sportsmanship, It makes me errk a bit about how the refs acted, but the way flash handled it was very hard and respectful/good. Like an adult. I know I myself would not have been able to take that from terribaed referees. Grats on JD's dinner ^.^
i'll try to be nicer if you try to be smarter
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
January 27 2010 03:33 GMT
#242
On January 27 2010 08:33 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 01:34 Roffles wrote:
While I think Flash handled the situation rather well from a media perspective, I think his attitude in game 4 was pretty poor. Sure, you can be emotionally drained and whatnot, but that's not the heart of a champion. Gotta struggle through everything until victory. With the way Flash was playing, he DEFINITELY could have won, yet it seemed as if he just gave up in game 4. This interview pretty much proves it as well. You ain't gonna win with a mindset of "I can't win anymore". No matter the situation, just gotta get through it.


Comments like these are said by people that haven't been put into a situation such as that.

The different clusterfucks that all came together for that series is very unique. You cannot possibly understand the amount of emotional stress someone goes through in a situation like that. Consider his age, what happened to his father, the decision, the position of the game he was in, and how much was riding on that decision.

Don't be so uppity and say "Just fight through it," when it is very likely that you would have collapsed just as Flash did. I have seen people with great mental fortitude just break down from a situation that culminates in such a manner.


What? Roffles is right, and you're not addressing the viewpoint at all. Who cares if Roffles hasn't been in a situation like that before; that has nothing to do with Flash. I admit that I haven't been on a stage with all that massive amount of shit happening, but does anyone give two bits for what kind of pressure if I, some random college student in the U.S., can withstand? No.

So obviously Flash's "mental fortitude" wasn't great enough then, that's a fact he admits himself. So what's your point? You can say that under all that duress that it is understandable that he did fail; and pretty much everyone on these forums agrees with you, including me. But that's not the point either.

The point is whether or not he should've instead gathered himself together and use a positive mindset to try to win the remaining games. How can you possibly say no? I mean, God knows it would be incredibly difficult to do, but it IS what he should've done.
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
January 27 2010 03:40 GMT
#243
Great interview, as i see flash was nervous, but i think he is the winner of msl Cheers Flash
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
January 27 2010 03:48 GMT
#244
Not to be a downer but this seems like the worst MSL ever in terms of professionalism from the organisers and refs.

From this interview and widely known fact we can see that this happened:

Somehow MSL officials decide not not have the players play in front of a live audience and thus dissapointing thousands upon thousands of viewers.

When the finals start both players are freezing cold because there is no heating in the room (lol?). The result of this is a sloppy game from Flash.

In set 3 the power goes out on both Jaedong and Flash computers. The refs decide to give Jaedong the win after an hour. They claim to Flash that they didn't see a replay but stood behind him and watched his unit count and economy (allthough we clearly saw a replay being broadcasted after).

MSL refs then proceed to ignore Flash and the KT coaches the next time they meet.

Wow... Just wow...

This is just about the most unproffessional event I've ever heard of.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 27 2010 03:49 GMT
#245
<3

Great Interview. Really glad he's not all emo or childish about it or anything.

Thanks Hoonie
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 27 2010 03:51 GMT
#246
talk about unprofessionalism
flash is definitely a cool guy
milikan
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States67 Posts
January 27 2010 04:09 GMT
#247
this is the ultimate bad manner stunt ever pulled. idra got nothin' on mbc.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 27 2010 04:14 GMT
#248
to Flash! Awesome guy, although I enjoy it when Stork beats you (hehehe), you are one modest and amazing human being.

Comment on KeSPA:+ Show Spoiler +
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


Comment on no heater / cold hands: yeah, I agree with the people that said that it really affects your abilities to perform. Playing SC, having warm/cold hands really makes a big difference (at least for me), sure you can keep your apm high but then the continued discomfort from having to move cold/stiff fingers at that kind of high speed just stacks up. I don't think I'll ever play SC at 350apm level, but from my personal piano performances, I can assure you that I always made sure my fingers were warmed up (both loose-wise and temperature-wise) because cold fingers playing piano will quickly result in stiff hand/wrist, which stiffens up the elbows/arm in turn, which then... playing at the level you usually play becomes impossible.
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yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
January 27 2010 04:14 GMT
#249
I'm a big Flash fan but also agree that he could have sucked it up for game 4, and the interview confirms that he didn't. It doesn't matter that you, I, or a normal person would have curled up into a ball - when he is trying to become the greatest of all time, then these situations are a chance to show why. If he had beaten JD in game 4 that would be legendary and he missed that opportunity.
calvinL
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada416 Posts
January 27 2010 04:58 GMT
#250
On January 27 2010 13:14 yoshi_yoshi wrote:
I'm a big Flash fan but also agree that he could have sucked it up for game 4, and the interview confirms that he didn't. It doesn't matter that you, I, or a normal person would have curled up into a ball - when he is trying to become the greatest of all time, then these situations are a chance to show why. If he had beaten JD in game 4 that would be legendary and he missed that opportunity.


wow and every one else who has the same opinion.... I thought he was plenty mature and he already sucked it up by not walking away from this terrible final. Come on guys, hes not a robot with no emotions.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
January 27 2010 05:09 GMT
#251
On January 27 2010 13:58 calvinL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 13:14 yoshi_yoshi wrote:
I'm a big Flash fan but also agree that he could have sucked it up for game 4, and the interview confirms that he didn't. It doesn't matter that you, I, or a normal person would have curled up into a ball - when he is trying to become the greatest of all time, then these situations are a chance to show why. If he had beaten JD in game 4 that would be legendary and he missed that opportunity.


wow and every one else who has the same opinion.... I thought he was plenty mature and he already sucked it up by not walking away from this terrible final. Come on guys, hes not a robot with no emotions.


Hmm, I agree on this point.
Flash was extremely mature for this whole event, and to be able to congratulate Jaedong afterwards, that's sucking it up. =/ I mean, that CAN'T be easy.
But... Flash is the ultimate weapon. :p Weapons don't have emotions. ^_^
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DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
January 27 2010 05:28 GMT
#252
On January 27 2010 13:58 calvinL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 13:14 yoshi_yoshi wrote:
I'm a big Flash fan but also agree that he could have sucked it up for game 4, and the interview confirms that he didn't. It doesn't matter that you, I, or a normal person would have curled up into a ball - when he is trying to become the greatest of all time, then these situations are a chance to show why. If he had beaten JD in game 4 that would be legendary and he missed that opportunity.


wow and every one else who has the same opinion.... I thought he was plenty mature and he already sucked it up by not walking away from this terrible final. Come on guys, hes not a robot with no emotions.


Again, the point is being obscured. No one is arguing he was being immature, or anything else. I thought that by continuing to play he was already quite resilient.

But what it comes down to this:
Do you think Flash should've played the remaining games with a negative mindset or a positive mindset?

This is the last I'm saying on the matter, feel free to take it to PM.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 27 2010 05:30 GMT
#253
Flash
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
genryou
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia390 Posts
January 27 2010 06:04 GMT
#254
I think progamers deserve more respect from Kespa/organizer.

Not only their opinion is neglected (Stork), they are also being lied to (Flash), as if they were laughing at the progamers and said "You guys is just a bunch of kids, we are the on who hold the power here, so shut up".

I, Challenge Everything
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
January 27 2010 06:16 GMT
#255
I loved this interview, thanks for the translation.

Flash and Jaedong are good people. It's a relief and an honour to see progaming so respectable.
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 27 2010 06:46 GMT
#256
Good interview, thanks MrHoon
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
January 27 2010 07:00 GMT
#257
Flash <3
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
January 27 2010 07:15 GMT
#258
Good. Maybe we can stop talking about this now.
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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
January 27 2010 07:16 GMT
#259
So Jaedong had a heater and Flash didn't?
If both of them were playing without heaters then, I'm sorry, but using it as an excuse for losing when the other player was under the same conditions is complete and utter BS.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
January 27 2010 07:29 GMT
#260
On January 27 2010 16:16 tomatriedes wrote:
So Jaedong had a heater and Flash didn't?
If both of them were playing without heaters then, I'm sorry, but using it as an excuse for losing when the other player was under the same conditions is complete and utter BS.
the studio was designed to let the players play at the best, even if they both didnt have heaters its fucked up. thats like saying if they suddenly decided to use an aircon in winter that a player shouldnt complain because both players were in the same playing conditions.
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