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Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
January 27 2010 00:42 GMT
#221
Nah, he ain't really that much pissed at Kespa.. he still has the OSL trophy warming his butt up.
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
January 27 2010 00:50 GMT
#222
the real question is did jd have a heater? its pretty bad they didnt have heating in the studio, but to blame game 1 on the conditions both players were affected by just doesnt seem right.

MBC did fuck the whole thing up and its good flash explained the situation and is being mature about it. other than that oversight, great interview.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
underscore
Profile Joined August 2009
252 Posts
January 27 2010 00:53 GMT
#223
I like how Flash blames the 3rd game for losing the 4th in the 1st question and in the 3rd question says that he doesn't. I also like how cold hands is the number #1 excuse in korea.
But yeah great interview and Flash is just the best so manner and mature I just wanna kiss his sexy lips.
RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
January 27 2010 01:08 GMT
#224
sometime i think that KESPa is even worse then the Al Quaida...
How do u doto?
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
January 27 2010 01:14 GMT
#225
I'm glad I didn't go through this when I was his age. I think I would've been in therapy for years.

...or knocked up a celeb, had a lovechild, and named it something starcraft-related. Like 'Siegetank.'
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
January 27 2010 01:29 GMT
#226
On January 27 2010 07:54 WWJDD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 01:11 Plexa wrote:
On January 27 2010 01:05 FranzF1 wrote:
Actually I dont like this interview at all, yeah maybe Flash got owned by Kespa but he is insulting Jaedong.

He is saying:
1) I lost cus I didnt have a heater
2) I won like every normal game
3) Kespa owned me
4) I dont want to play so I lost

So he is saying that Jaedong only won by externals things and I think that Jaedong won because he was more prepared that Flash, its a shame that everything went like that but he just need to say: "Hey Kespa owned me in game 3" but not give escuse for the rest of the games.

And I totally called Live I wrote here on TL first: IT WASNT A REPLAY lol.
Well I hope for a rematch on the next OSL final... OSL needs to use the Kespa rankings seed.
The lack of a heater is a pretty serious issue =/ infact it was them bringing in the heater to warm up flash that caused the power to go out. Irony eh?


It's not just that. When you are nervous, your hands get colder than they otherwise would. That explains why Jaedong's hands were not as cold. He was in full rage mode, and not nervous in the least. Flash was doing something nobody had done in a while, playing in the second's starleague final after winning the first one at the same time. That's why the lack of a heater affected his game more than the Dong's.

Yeah, flash is afected by dongs...who isnt?
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
January 27 2010 01:35 GMT
#227
On January 26 2010 23:43 Inflexion wrote:
Man, Flash is a class act for sure. JD's wallet definitely going to take a big hit haha.

I'm all for E-Sports growing as a legitimate worldwide entity and all; I also understand that making a decision in that bizarre situation must have been tough for MBC/Refs/Kespa but referees LYING to players and competitors?!?!?! And then coming to work the next day laughing/playing/being retarded as if nothing happened........

Come onnnn. If E-Sports is to grow as large as everyone wants it to, this kind of professionalism by supposedly the leading E-Sports organization is a freakin' JOKE.

There is a reason why in professional sports in N.A. and all over the world, referees who are idiots get fined/fired/banned/etc.


i really can't agree with this statement.
did you just watch the minnesota vs new orleans nfc championship game? did you see that overtime debacle? superbowl rigging at its core, but nobody is going to be fined for it. hell, if the players argue too much, they will get fined.
officials in NBA/NFL are fucked up, and its pretty obvious they make calls trying to get the finals they want (sorta like MSL fuckers).

MBC fucked up. now we found out kespa was being assholes. if kespa just straight out told flash what their reasoning was instead of fucking around and just refusing to be cooperative, i am sure it would have been better.

just a fucked up situation.
go jaedong and flash, OSL FINALS!!
fuck the msl
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
January 27 2010 01:50 GMT
#228
On January 26 2010 23:15 Plexa wrote:
I can't beleive there was no heating. It's fucking midwinter for crying out loud -.-;

you underestimate the proficiency that asians have with enduring hardship.
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
January 27 2010 02:11 GMT
#229
On January 27 2010 09:53 underscore wrote:
I like how Flash blames the 3rd game for losing the 4th in the 1st question and in the 3rd question says that he doesn't. I also like how cold hands is the number #1 excuse in korea.
But yeah great interview and Flash is just the best so manner and mature I just wanna kiss his sexy lips.


Pedo alert!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
j/k
WWJDD??
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-27 02:15:15
January 27 2010 02:14 GMT
#230
On January 27 2010 08:09 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 07:57 WWJDD wrote:
On January 27 2010 05:51 citi.zen wrote:
Set three was obviously a tough moment for both of them, the question is: how do you handle it? Before he even heard the decision, Flash was already panicky and lost. Jaedong is a bit older, more used to that sort of attention and was able to keep calmer. The actual decision did make a difference, but a player who was more strong minded can actually find motivation in being treated unfairly, rather than fall apart.

I think this was a great growing experience for Flash and there is no doubt the future looks bright for him.


Also, it's easier to stay calm when the decision goes in your favour. You don't have the baggage the other guy has because he's on the brink of elimination. Not that Jaedong would have panicked as much as Flash did should the situation have been reversed. He was simply more experienced in playing in Starleague finals. What was this, his 7th?

Rabid JD fanboy here if you can't tell from my sig.


This was Flashs 6th if you count the GomTV finals


Didn't know Flash lost 3 finals. Have to go back and check.
WWJDD??
Faronel
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States658 Posts
January 27 2010 02:18 GMT
#231
Flash is such a nice kid.



Nice guys finish 2nd.
C'est la vie...
proA.June91
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Vietnam445 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-27 02:29:11
January 27 2010 02:27 GMT
#232
thank you so much mr hoon.

I met Flash one time and He was really nice to me though we didnt understand each other (I don't speak Korean). He always smiled and he was willing to pose a heart shape with me <3 (while my friends keep telling me that it was a mushroom-like lol)

It was a really nice experience for me :D
Fear is not what I'll get. It is what I've created myself
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
January 27 2010 02:35 GMT
#233
Thanks for the translations. Those kespa refs sound like total jerks. Flash is such a great guy, and I'm glad to hear him and JD are great friends. Hope Flash does order the most expensive dinner in Korea haha
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 27 2010 02:36 GMT
#234
On January 27 2010 10:35 piratebay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 23:43 Inflexion wrote:
Man, Flash is a class act for sure. JD's wallet definitely going to take a big hit haha.

I'm all for E-Sports growing as a legitimate worldwide entity and all; I also understand that making a decision in that bizarre situation must have been tough for MBC/Refs/Kespa but referees LYING to players and competitors?!?!?! And then coming to work the next day laughing/playing/being retarded as if nothing happened........

Come onnnn. If E-Sports is to grow as large as everyone wants it to, this kind of professionalism by supposedly the leading E-Sports organization is a freakin' JOKE.

There is a reason why in professional sports in N.A. and all over the world, referees who are idiots get fined/fired/banned/etc.


i really can't agree with this statement.
did you just watch the minnesota vs new orleans nfc championship game? did you see that overtime debacle? superbowl rigging at its core, but nobody is going to be fined for it. hell, if the players argue too much, they will get fined.
officials in NBA/NFL are fucked up, and its pretty obvious they make calls trying to get the finals they want (sorta like MSL fuckers).

MBC fucked up. now we found out kespa was being assholes. if kespa just straight out told flash what their reasoning was instead of fucking around and just refusing to be cooperative, i am sure it would have been better.

just a fucked up situation.
go jaedong and flash, OSL FINALS!!
fuck the msl


Rigging? Did they simultaneously rig it against both NO and Minnesota? Because there were shitty call all day against both of them.

:>
Remember Violet.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 27 2010 02:39 GMT
#235
Jesus... NO heating? That's like asking him to lose. I'm glad to know that he hasn't been taking this the direction people on TL have though, so props to him on that.

Flash, you have gone up about 100 points in my respect meter. Brilliant, young, and yet mature. <3
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 27 2010 02:41 GMT
#236
This was more poorly handled than it initially seemed. Waytosuck.
Jaedong
Tapioca Weasel
Profile Joined January 2010
81 Posts
January 27 2010 02:44 GMT
#237
Im like Koreans. I like Flash and Jaedong more than any other player.

except MAYBE Skyhigh.
I want to see July and Reach fight. Like with fists.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 27 2010 02:48 GMT
#238
On January 27 2010 09:53 underscore wrote:
I like how Flash blames the 3rd game for losing the 4th in the 1st question and in the 3rd question says that he doesn't. I also like how cold hands is the number #1 excuse in korea.
But yeah great interview and Flash is just the best so manner and mature I just wanna kiss his sexy lips.

cold hands is a perfectly valid excuse, try playing at 350 apm with stiff fingers
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 27 2010 02:53 GMT
#239
On January 27 2010 11:48 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 09:53 underscore wrote:
I like how Flash blames the 3rd game for losing the 4th in the 1st question and in the 3rd question says that he doesn't. I also like how cold hands is the number #1 excuse in korea.
But yeah great interview and Flash is just the best so manner and mature I just wanna kiss his sexy lips.

cold hands is a perfectly valid excuse, try playing at 350 apm with stiff fingers


I have to agree that cold hands is a pretty good excuse even without 350 apm its crappy having cold hands while playing.
When I think of something else, something will go here
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-27 03:03:19
January 27 2010 03:02 GMT
#240
cold hands are serious especially in sc

i hate having cold fingers when i use my arcade stick for FG's let alone trying to play uber-level starcraft

flash so nice glad that him and JD are such good friends
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