EPTWhy MSL Group Selection cancelled? - Page 6
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
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Doso
Germany769 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10344 Posts
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zeppelin
United States565 Posts
On November 06 2009 10:29 justiceknight wrote: I really dont see how do you compare a good sponsor and a bad sponsor,what difference would it make? prestige and brand cachet - the perception of an event's prestige is related to the prestige of the organizations sponsoring it. it gives the impression that the sponsorship is something very sought after and the event must therefore be an important and captivating one. Seeing a large company like coca-cola or proctor & gamble (pringles) sponsor a league gives it a much greater perception of credibility than a string of shitty MMOs that don't last a year. | ||
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AlwaysGG
Taiwan952 Posts
MMM | ||
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
The problem lies within how this sport is being looked at. It's a team sport that is played in 1vs1s. On one side you have the tennis like Grand Slam's, lots of prestige for a player, big hype and prices and on the other side this heavy focus on a team league. The problem is that both is played at the same time, all the time. Imagine Federer to play Wimbledon on Saturday and then Davis Cup on Sunday. That would be physicaly counter productiv like hell. But since broodwar players are that much more tied to their team and korean work ethic is kinda insane good players squeeze themselves out to the maximum. Until they loose focus and crash. Tell me, why does a team like SKT1 need more than 20 players? Just imagine how many hours upon hours most of these players do nothing else but practice. They don't play in any individual league, they dont play in proleague and suprisingly, online events barely exist. Shure there are bench-players in all sports but give me a break. There is something fundamentaly wrong in how this sport is "played out" in that we want both at the same time all the time. Just try transfer the system to any other sport on this planet, it's a totaly insane and fragile composition. And not just for the players, but the teams and sponsors too. Is a player to blame for playing so much? Is a coach to blame for sending out his ace so much? No! But at some point they should decide what this sport is. Either we focus on individual leagues, treat it like tennis, lots of grand slams and trow in the occasional "cup" OR go down the team road, tone down individual leagues and build up on the winners league <-> normal system thing. We simply can't have both. And if kespa wasnt that greedy they would realise that! Yes this game is great, yes i love it as a fan, so STOP fucking it up, give these players some space, make it worthwhile for the sponsors to stick around and start using your fucking brains to make it a better expirience for the fans! | ||
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FieryBalrog
United States1381 Posts
Anyway, I feel that the SC pro-scene has been gradually dwindling in Korea over the past year or so. Not enough interesting characters to follow in the narratives of the leagues. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On November 09 2009 15:27 FieryBalrog wrote: This is really sad. Anyway, I feel that the SC pro-scene has been gradually dwindling in Korea over the past year or so. Not enough interesting characters to follow in the narratives of the leagues. I'm really sorry you feel that way. | ||
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sky_slasher
United States328 Posts
http://www.mbcgame.co.kr/client/VI_Board_View.asp?Top_CD=G_VI&Sub_Title=BBS&Sub_sTitle=bbs&page=1&itemid=23359&txt_Search=&txt_Key There's gonna be Group Selection on the 19th, this post by MBC Game said. | ||
NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On November 10 2009 08:47 sky_slasher wrote: This appears to be MBC responding to an user's question about whether the Group Selection will occur: http://www.mbcgame.co.kr/client/VI_Board_View.asp?Top_CD=G_VI&Sub_Title=BBS&Sub_sTitle=bbs&page=1&itemid=23359&txt_Search=&txt_Key There's gonna be Group Selection on the 19th, this post by MBC Game said. Crap that means two group selections in two nights for me. I'm going to be useless at work on Friday 20th lol. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
Hope not another game -____-;; | ||
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
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Sigh
Canada2433 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
On November 10 2009 09:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Maple Story MSL holy fuck | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On November 09 2009 15:27 FieryBalrog wrote: This is really sad. Anyway, I feel that the SC pro-scene has been gradually dwindling in Korea over the past year or so. Not enough interesting characters to follow in the narratives of the leagues. no one cares what you feel if you have no proof to back it up. gdiaf | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
im hoping for the K-On! MSL that doesn't even make sense but it wold be really awesome | ||
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FConnectionUK
United States316 Posts
On November 06 2009 11:57 d_so wrote: you guys are talking about a nation that still uses internet explorer 6.0 and windows xp. this is a stereotype but there is truth it: koreans stick to what they know and what they feel they have a connection or 정 with. they won't move over to sc2 even if it's better. maybe after a year or two some people will start to switch over, but i'm willing to bet that sc2 won't replace starcraft, it'll just compete with it. simply put, MSL having a late sponsor is nothing new and is not a sign of diminishing demand for BW. Korea is one of the fastest trend changing country in the world. If you buy a phone today in Korea, by tomorrow, your phone's outdated. Your phone has to be changed daily if you want to keep up. Microsoft always release its new patch in Korea first. Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7? First stop? Korea. Korea will never ever delay upgrading its patch, even if they dont know if there are any risks or not. Trend is what's more important, not what's best. Nobody wants to be outdated. If its the hot stuff, Korean has to update it. But yes, Korean culture value its 정 or connection alot more. But that doesn't mean they will always stay the same. I believe SC2 will have a huge impact on starcraft. Lineage 1 was suppose to be the best mmorph game at the time in Korea. Lineage 2 came out, everyone complained how it did not live up to its reputation. Still, how many players do you see playing lineage 1 still? Not many. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On November 09 2009 06:45 Jayson X wrote: Late sponsor is nothing new. The problem lies within how this sport is being looked at. It's a team sport that is played in 1vs1s. On one side you have the tennis like Grand Slam's, lots of prestige for a player, big hype and prices and on the other side this heavy focus on a team league. The problem is that both is played at the same time, all the time. Imagine Federer to play Wimbledon on Saturday and then Davis Cup on Sunday. That would be physicaly counter productiv like hell. But since broodwar players are that much more tied to their team and korean work ethic is kinda insane good players squeeze themselves out to the maximum. Until they loose focus and crash. Tell me, why does a team like SKT1 need more than 20 players? Just imagine how many hours upon hours most of these players do nothing else but practice. They don't play in any individual league, they dont play in proleague and suprisingly, online events barely exist. Shure there are bench-players in all sports but give me a break. There is something fundamentaly wrong in how this sport is "played out" in that we want both at the same time all the time. Just try transfer the system to any other sport on this planet, it's a totaly insane and fragile composition. And not just for the players, but the teams and sponsors too. Is a player to blame for playing so much? Is a coach to blame for sending out his ace so much? No! But at some point they should decide what this sport is. Either we focus on individual leagues, treat it like tennis, lots of grand slams and trow in the occasional "cup" OR go down the team road, tone down individual leagues and build up on the winners league <-> normal system thing. We simply can't have both. And if kespa wasnt that greedy they would realise that! Yes this game is great, yes i love it as a fan, so STOP fucking it up, give these players some space, make it worthwhile for the sponsors to stick around and start using your fucking brains to make it a better expirience for the fans! This. A million times this. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
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