MMORPGs are a bit different, though, as they require a lot of input from the company to continue being playable (as far as I knew, both Lineages ended up with about the same subscription numbers, though). Starcraft is much the opposite, as the community was able to further the already-solid balance through creation of new maps with very few resources thrown in by Blizzard after the initial patching was over.

SC2 has many obstacles facing it, and one of them will continue to be the amazing balance and enjoyability of SC itself. The game isn't just going to go away, nor should it.

d_so

Korea (South)3262 Posts

November 10 2009 01:51 GMT

#123

On November 10 2009 10:29 FConnectionUK wrote:

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Korea is one of the fastest trend changing country in the world. If you buy a phone today in Korea, by tomorrow, your phone's outdated. Your phone has to be changed daily if you want to keep up.

Microsoft always release its new patch in Korea first. Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7? First stop? Korea. Korea will never ever delay upgrading its patch, even if they dont know if there are any risks or not. Trend is what's more important, not what's best. Nobody wants to be outdated. If its the hot stuff, Korean has to update it.

But yes, Korean culture value its 정 or connection alot more. But that doesn't mean they will always stay the same. I believe SC2 will have a huge impact on starcraft.

Lineage 1 was suppose to be the best mmorph game at the time in Korea. Lineage 2 came out, everyone complained how it did not live up to its reputation. Still, how many players do you see playing lineage 1 still? Not many.

i like how you're spewing all this feel-talk and theory but the simple fact is that korea does use internet explorer 6 and windows xp

windows xp

internet explorer (by version)

internet explorer (all versions) vs other browsers

source: gs.statcounter.com, some blog

yeah, not the best sources and you can talk all you want abour korean monoculture but fact is fact. i work at a korean school: everyone uses xp + 6.0. i go to pc bangs: same thing. i go to my cousin's house, grandparents's house, uncle's business: same thing.

don't confuse korea's love for aesthetic trends with their willingness to change internet-wise.

MuffinDude

United States3837 Posts

November 10 2009 02:05 GMT

#124

On November 09 2009 05:26 Doso wrote:
KeSpa IS the teams...

Sigh. Theres a reason why only half the teams participated in the gom season 3, having 3 individual leagues and 1 team league was just too much for players and fans, so they cut it down. Sigh.

QibingZero

2611 Posts

November 10 2009 02:13 GMT

#125

Most of Korea also uses GOM over WMP though, right?

I can understand using XP and not using WMP, but I never felt that IE ever 'worked' once there were viable alternatives. That would drive me nuts if I were into web development in Korea...

d_so

Korea (South)3262 Posts

November 10 2009 02:32 GMT

#126

GOM replaces WMP cuz it covers WMP while also allowing flv playback and such.

also, gom is korean.

actually, before i go any further ( and im addressing you too FconnectionUK) let me state my thesis more clearly: Korea is a nation that values "connection" and 정 over improvements, even in the realm of technology. This tendency will manifest itself with the upcoming sequel to Broodwar in that SC2 will not replace Broodwar but will merely compete against it, and for a long time (say a year or two) will not be particulary successful in its competition (perhaps provable through adoption rate, or viewer ratings of Starcraft once SC2 comes out, etc).

in my above post i use IE6 and Windows XP as an example. Even though IE 8 is clearly better than IE6, korea sticks with IE6 at a high rate.. Windows Vista, initial criticisms aside, is now a proven better alternative to XP but still fails to find adoption.

FCUK says Korea values trends and likes to set them. He brings up phones and Microsoft as an example.

I provide graphs to Korea doesn't really follow trends, at least with OS and Browsers. Also, let me add right now that the phone statement doesn't really work: why do you think the iPhone is not sold in Korea? It's cuz Korean phones cannot compete technologically or aesthetically and would get their asses handed to them in a free market. Right now the "in" phones in Korea are some AMOLED shit, Magic Hole, umm... but yeah basically they're not really technologically advanced, they just had great marketing. (Lollipop is an example of this, AMOLED song is pretty sick imo)

ok now going back to GOM: Gom is a case where korean technology trumps american/foreign. So koreans adopt it like np. they say it's 우리 player(ours player), a technology birthed in 우리대한민국 (our great korean country). no way they won't adopt it.

i can understand why people might think Korea is fast adopt new technologies. There is certainly precedent, especially in the following three cases: broadband adoption, DDRAM and other flash memory, LED displays. Let me explain a bit about two of these.

Broadband adoption was pushed by the korean government. WHen the korean government wants something done, it does it pretty well (at least in terms of getting the entire country to use it.)

DDRAM was also a government proejct, this time started by Samsung but receiving heavy funding from korea. It's kind of a reincarnation of Korea's Heavy Chemical Industries policy but this time through in memory.

LED i dono.

I guess i should provide a conclusion here since i'm making this almost like an essay but i'm interested in seeing other points. over anything else, i think Korea's potential adoption, or non-adoption, of SC2 and how it relates to Korea's cultural tendency is an interesting topic that deserves discussion.

3 Lions

United States3705 Posts

November 10 2009 02:46 GMT

#127

On November 10 2009 10:03 konadora wrote:

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holy fuck

Runescape MSL ftw

omninmo

2349 Posts

November 10 2009 02:56 GMT

#128

rekrul should sponsor it.
"put your money where your face is" as they say

QuickStriker

United States3694 Posts

November 10 2009 03:00 GMT

#129

On November 10 2009 11:46 3 Lions wrote:

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Runescape MSL ftw

oh god......

[wh]_ForAlways

United States235 Posts

November 10 2009 03:15 GMT

#130

PokerStrategy.com MSL?

phyvo

United States5635 Posts

November 10 2009 04:01 GMT

#131

On November 10 2009 12:00 QuickStriker wrote:

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oh god......

Hello Kitty Online MSL

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 10 2009 04:06 GMT

#132

Snuggie MSL imo

Ideas

United States8161 Posts

November 10 2009 04:09 GMT

#133

has a company that already sponsors a team ever sponsored a league before? are they even allowed to do that?
(excluding STX masters or other non-starleague events like the mobile-battle thing)

blue_arrow

1971 Posts

November 10 2009 04:12 GMT

#134

Trojan MSL

jaedong and lomo and julyzerg in opening sequence

illu

Canada2531 Posts

November 10 2009 05:06 GMT

#135

Group selection will be 19th.

iLoveKT

Philippines3615 Posts

November 10 2009 11:40 GMT

#136

Nate MSL. saw it on fomos, cant read korean but google translate somehow tells me thats the next sponsor.

GTR

51549 Posts

November 10 2009 11:45 GMT

#137

(i just made it in ps in like 2 mins, a rough mockup)

lets just hope it isn't a failure like the nate osl haha (poor sync).

source: http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=100848&db=issue

by the way a pre-tournament is scheduled for saturday with all of the msl royal roaders.

i might be wrong but 1st place 50,000,000 won 2nd place 20,000,000 won (for the actually msl not the pre-tournament)