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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 11 2009 06:39 GMT
#181
On October 11 2009 15:37 Yoghurt wrote:
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On October 11 2009 15:34 Nevuk wrote:
On October 11 2009 15:31 lazz wrote:
On October 11 2009 15:29 Nevuk wrote:
Wow, I jumped up to 98. Wasn't really expecting to move up that much - my captain is dragging me down (I would be 63 with a different one), but that's no big deal this early. All of my players have lineup appearances later this week as well.

I really want to pick up frozean now, although that would really make no sense - those 34 people with him should be happy.


frozean seemed like a bit of a risk - there's a decent chance that stx won't play him if he doesn't perform and he only had one line up appearance this week, imo he still wasn't a good choice, despite somehow winning for once..

From what I could see of the game, it wasn't just a win, it was a total domination of Iris, who is a good player. Frozean made him look like a b-teamer. Depending on the lineups for next week, I might swap Movie for him, maybe Ruby. However, I watched the majority of the game in a picture-in-picture on solinn's stream.



That's probably not a bad idea - movie is solid but he's got a tough matchup later this week

Yeah, both of his matches this week were really hard, Frozean might actually be unaffordable if I try and switch Movie for him haha. However, next week if he draws like Hyun and thezerg, I'll definitely keep him.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-11 06:43:25
October 11 2009 06:41 GMT
#182
Hmm.. Did I miss something?

I have (P)SoO in my anti-team and it's telling me that he has 1 point. Did he make an appearence? I know (P)HakSoo did, but I didn't see (P)SoO on any of the lineups..
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 11 2009 06:42 GMT
#183
On October 11 2009 15:41 jtype wrote:
Hmm.. Did I miss something?

I have (P)SoO in my anti-team and it's telling me that he has 1 point. Did he play a game? I know (P)HakSoo did, but I didn't see (P)SoO on any of the lineups..

If the player's team wins, then they get 1 point.
Yoghurt
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia31 Posts
October 11 2009 06:43 GMT
#184
On October 11 2009 15:39 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2009 15:37 Yoghurt wrote:
On October 11 2009 15:34 Nevuk wrote:
On October 11 2009 15:31 lazz wrote:
On October 11 2009 15:29 Nevuk wrote:
Wow, I jumped up to 98. Wasn't really expecting to move up that much - my captain is dragging me down (I would be 63 with a different one), but that's no big deal this early. All of my players have lineup appearances later this week as well.

I really want to pick up frozean now, although that would really make no sense - those 34 people with him should be happy.


frozean seemed like a bit of a risk - there's a decent chance that stx won't play him if he doesn't perform and he only had one line up appearance this week, imo he still wasn't a good choice, despite somehow winning for once..

From what I could see of the game, it wasn't just a win, it was a total domination of Iris, who is a good player. Frozean made him look like a b-teamer. Depending on the lineups for next week, I might swap Movie for him, maybe Ruby. However, I watched the majority of the game in a picture-in-picture on solinn's stream.



That's probably not a bad idea - movie is solid but he's got a tough matchup later this week

Yeah, both of his matches this week were really hard, Frozean might actually be unaffordable if I try and switch Movie for him haha. However, next week if he draws like Hyun and thezerg, I'll definitely keep him.


Speaking of which I just realised that Horang2 is in my anti-team

ugh...
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
October 11 2009 06:45 GMT
#185
Really? Wow, I did not know that. I thought that, if they weren't there, then they wouldn't gain or lose any points.

This changes everything.. Now my Fantasy team is messed up..
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
October 11 2009 06:49 GMT
#186
Yay, #90. Not having JD/CJ as I've had in all the other seasons is lookin' pretty good right now . I really wish Movie could've pulled that one out though. Very entertaining nonetheless.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 11 2009 06:50 GMT
#187
On October 11 2009 15:34 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2009 15:31 lazz wrote:
On October 11 2009 15:29 Nevuk wrote:
Wow, I jumped up to 98. Wasn't really expecting to move up that much - my captain is dragging me down (I would be 63 with a different one), but that's no big deal this early. All of my players have lineup appearances later this week as well.

I really want to pick up frozean now, although that would really make no sense - those 34 people with him should be happy.


frozean seemed like a bit of a risk - there's a decent chance that stx won't play him if he doesn't perform and he only had one line up appearance this week, imo he still wasn't a good choice, despite somehow winning for once..

From what I could see of the game, it wasn't just a win, it was a total domination of Iris, who is a good player. Frozean made him look like a b-teamer. Depending on the lineups for next week, I might swap Movie for him, maybe Ruby. However, I watched the majority of the game in a picture-in-picture on solinn's stream.


really? i didnt watch any games today. and iris' value is definitely over inflated by the people on this site. he's really not that good. there's a reason he was only 1 point, he sucks in proleague and CJ play skyhigh instead of him most of the time.
snarl
Profile Joined July 2004
Canada812 Posts
October 11 2009 06:51 GMT
#188
What are the rules for anti-team trading? I have SoO who was valued at 3 so who would I be eligible to trade him for?
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8176 Posts
October 11 2009 06:59 GMT
#189
getting kwanro on my team was the most retarded act ever

wtf was I thinking?
Free Palestine
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
October 11 2009 07:18 GMT
#190
On October 11 2009 15:51 snarl wrote:
What are the rules for anti-team trading? I have SoO who was valued at 3 so who would I be eligible to trade him for?

You can trade anti-team players for any other player with a higher current trade value (and who isn't on your main team).
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-11 07:22:46
October 11 2009 07:22 GMT
#191
Why do i have -1 point for having 815 on my anti team when he hasn't appeared yet?

edit nvm i just read some guys post above mine.

wtf getting points for winning TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
October 11 2009 07:29 GMT
#192
On October 11 2009 16:22 StorrZerg wrote:
Why do i have -1 point for having 815 on my anti team when he hasn't appeared yet?

edit nvm i just read some guys post above mine.

wtf getting points for winning TT


Lol yeah, that's going to mean much more careful planning in the future.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-11 08:28:10
October 11 2009 08:18 GMT
#193
On October 10 2009 12:00 fusionsdf wrote:
savior also has to compete with hydra. To focus on players other than just those playing this week (if the player you pick loses, and the player you wanted to trade for has a team win, guess what, you might not be able to obtain that player again)

GosI[Flying] is interesting, but risky, same with mong.

What about jangbi? Better pickup for 2 points than pure in pretty much every way I would say, since hes potential ace as well and might end his slump.

go.go is an amazing pickup, and if it wasnt for him not playing at all this week, would be on my team. Type-b and s2 have obvious merits as well.


I finally went with my gut - HiyA. I already had Jangbi. ^^

go.go I'm not sure about. His TvZ is solid, but I feel like his TvT is kind of shoddy and his TvP I literally don't remember ever seeing him play other than that game against Bisu. type-b I don't like, don't trust, and will wait for actual real PL results before I even consider it no matter how well he performs in Starleagues. s2 sucks...

My final team is:

(P)JangBi (captain) - 2
(Z)EffOrt - 7
(T)Light - 7
(T)UpMaGiC - 4
(Z)ZerO - 3
(T)HiyA - 2
KT Rolster - 5

I had considered switching out UpMagic/HiyA for Luxury/Iris, but I honestly expected UpMagic to beat Lux. The points are the same so far, but now Up's going to get killed by fantasy while Lux has an ezmode game vs Special iirc.

EDIT: And to avoid double-posts:

On October 11 2009 08:03 darktreb wrote:
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On October 11 2009 05:50 SonuvBob wrote:
Next round lineup points will probably be removed for anti-teams so you can actually gain points when they lose. For this round the best you can hope for is 0 points.


I hope you guys do that because it's more fun (and I would argue more skillful) to try to pick guys who will actually play and lose than to basically try to pick guys who won't play. And that change would change nothing with respect to still trying to pick guys on teams that don't win either.


I wouldn't necessarily be against the change (not that I like the idea of changing this at all, I'll be honest), but there are two things to consider:

1) The lineup points atm do provide some "compensation" for star players who don't get to play, a la ZerO or Jaedong this week.
2) It doesn't really change anything. You're still going to want to pick people who don't play - you can trade every week, but if you're trying to guess who's going to win and lose and trade in and out you're going to get burned badly and the extra points won't make up for it.
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Virtuoso
Profile Joined December 2008
United States119 Posts
October 11 2009 09:08 GMT
#194
why does iloveoov take away form my points he didnt play....
fan of the top 3 terrans Flash Fantasy leta GOGO TERRANS
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
October 11 2009 09:14 GMT
#195
On October 11 2009 18:08 Virtuoso wrote:
why does iloveoov take away form my points he didnt play....


He received 1 point for SKT's win over Stars.
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-11 09:54:55
October 11 2009 09:46 GMT
#196



Public Service Announcement

When pro-team wins the match, all players on that pro-team will earn a point
(even if they were not in the lineup). This affects players on your anti-team too.


Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
hype[NZ]
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Japan412 Posts
October 11 2009 10:47 GMT
#197
So I checked on my fantasy team, and my anti-team has changed without me even doing anything (I have Sea on it now... wtf I love Sea) and I now have a -2 trade tax?
WTF I didn't even realise trading was open, and even then I don't trade.

You can see for yourself here:
hype[NZ]

I guess something happened to Much (he was on my antiteam before)? Is this a bug or is somebody just fucking with my team?

help please!

Actually I just saw this:
On October 11 2009 10:01 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2009 03:14 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 11 2009 03:03 Rostam wrote:
Hey I've got kind of a weird bug going on here, I think I had originally selected Much for the anti-team and then didn't realize he got removed so right now my team only has 2 anti-team players on it...seems kind of unfair, any way to get this fixed?

I can fix it, which player do you want on your anti team? Please don't pick someone who has already played.


Oops sorry I missed this response, I'll take Sea since he's the same points as Much was.


So Much was removed from the roster after I signed up. Fine, I can accept having Sea on my antiteam, but a 2 point penalty as well is a bit weak don't you think?
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
October 11 2009 10:54 GMT
#198
wow i just noticed that i somehow changed my favorite team from ACE to Woongjin. i don't even know when i did that or how it happened. at least i didn't do it intentionally...
now i swtiched back to ACE but now i'm in the wrong fantasy group. could some admin move me from the woongjin-fans group to the ace-fans group please? would be awesome! <3

but it isn't urgent though
thanks in advance
http://twitter.com/jhNz
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
October 11 2009 14:00 GMT
#199
On October 11 2009 17:18 Musoeun wrote:

I wouldn't necessarily be against the change (not that I like the idea of changing this at all, I'll be honest), but there are two things to consider:

1) The lineup points atm do provide some "compensation" for star players who don't get to play, a la ZerO or Jaedong this week.
2) It doesn't really change anything. You're still going to want to pick people who don't play - you can trade every week, but if you're trying to guess who's going to win and lose and trade in and out you're going to get burned badly and the extra points won't make up for it.



1) They said it would only be for anti teams so you will still get your "compensation" for star players

2) I do agree it will still be safer to pick players that don't play but if you want to have #1 team and not just a top200 team you have to take some risks to get in front of the herd. Putting in that rule can make people want to try out that risk. Lets say you think Leta's record last season's was a fluke and that now everyone has adapted to his game. Taking him in is currently not worth the risk but with that new rule because him playing a lot and losing can make you earn points adding to the fact he is worth a good number of points (like all player who are bound to often appear in line ups) which will let you have very small picks for the rest of the anti-team can be a good strategy.
But that's a do or die style !
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
October 11 2009 14:10 GMT
#200
On October 11 2009 23:00 Beamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2009 17:18 Musoeun wrote:

I wouldn't necessarily be against the change (not that I like the idea of changing this at all, I'll be honest), but there are two things to consider:

1) The lineup points atm do provide some "compensation" for star players who don't get to play, a la ZerO or Jaedong this week.
2) It doesn't really change anything. You're still going to want to pick people who don't play - you can trade every week, but if you're trying to guess who's going to win and lose and trade in and out you're going to get burned badly and the extra points won't make up for it.



1) They said it would only be for anti teams so you will still get your "compensation" for star players


I haven't seen this discussed anywhere and can't turn up anything useful with the search, source?

And imo making something count for main team but not anti sort of screws with the point of having an anti-team to begin with.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
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