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2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague - Round 2 - Page 10

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boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-17 13:35:53
December 17 2007 13:24 GMT
#181
On December 11 2007 10:37 pachi wrote:
Anytime keeps missing out on his chance to play
Free and Stork are catching up in game wins too.

+ Show Spoiler [Offtopic: Past Proleagues] +
Just for fun, I generated tables for some past proleagues:

SKY2006 R1 (Playoffs) (Without)
SKY2006 R2 (Playoffs) (Without)
SKY2006 ALL (Playoffs) (Without)
+ Show Spoiler [Disclaimer] +
Ratings may be off because the games seem to be added in an order that wasn't chronological


2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague R1 (Playoffs) (Without)

Would be pretty interesting if Jaedong wins this OSL because it would be mean the top 3 players of the 2006 Proleague in terms of net wins (by a large margin too) would be the 3 players to win the OSL in 2007, sAviOr, GGPlay, and now maybe Jaedong. Just found that interesting.

Also looking at the two 2007 tables quickly I made this list of the best 2007 Proleague players so far by net wins (including playoffs):

1. Stork 21
2. Sea 19
3. Anytime 16
4. free 14
5. Jaedong 12

So if Stork wins at least he is the best 2007 Proleague player so far.

Thanks for the tables of statistics by the way.
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
December 17 2007 22:34 GMT
#182
Reminds me of how even though Stork has been doing amazing this year (2 final appearances, 1 semi, amazing proleague performance, and [76 wins - 33 losses (69.72%) ] for this year), like he said in an interview, he probably won't get any kind of award unless he wins a title.
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boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-18 05:04:50
December 18 2007 04:53 GMT
#183
You forgot to mention he won the WCG this year too, so at least he actually did win a big tournament. But yeah he really needs a Starleague win, I'm rooting for him to win this OSL.

Also, his team won the first round of the Proleague this year too. Stork might possibly have been the best player of 2007. If Stork could win this OSL he'd give Bisu good competition for best at least, they'd be one and two either way though I think. Bisu has had better Starleague success than Stork even if Storks win the OSL but it depends how heavily you want to weigh Starleagues and ignore Proleague and WCG and overall winning percentage.

Anyway, what kind of awards do you mean though?

[edit]Now that I think about it, if Stork can't even win one Starleague there could be some argument to place Savior over Stork at 2nd too. Stork needs a Starleague win badly.
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
December 19 2007 01:32 GMT
#184
the December 4 entry needs to be fixed (it's listed as Nov 4 and there is missing and inaccurate data for both the Ace Matches)

Dec 5 is also labeled as Nov.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
December 19 2007 07:46 GMT
#185
Anytime going 3-0 this week to pass Stork again (1-0) however Khan has 2 games next week to Lecaf's one, but with Stork in the finals will he risk it to chase the MVP and his team? From the looks of it Khan can get into the top 4 by replacing MBC this week if it wins its match against MBC.
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-20 09:49:02
December 19 2007 15:05 GMT
#186
Update out!

Weekly Stats Report!
Big news this week! The Weekly Stats Report is moving to the front page. From this week on you'll be able to get your Proleague update from the news section, as well as from this thread.

In the team standings this week, CJ recovered from their loss to KTF last week to give WeMade only their second whitewash this season, while Lecaf faced off against the two lowest ranked teams in the league: eSTRO and ACE. Lecaf beat ACE in the closer, with Anytime beating Boxer, and then repeated their 3-0 destruction of eSTRO from earlier in the season.

The batle for the last two playoff spots has intensified this week, with OGN and MBC both holding on to their positions with an 11-7 score, and Samsung being close on their heels, sporting a 10-7 score, a score that is especially impressive considering that they were 2-6 a few weeks ago. That said, all the teams up to KTF in ninth spot (tied with WeMade, Hanbit and STX on 9-9) still has a chance to qualify for the playoffs.

Zerg continues their bad season, with the winning percentage going down to 43%. The only map that retains a good Zerg win ratio is now Blue Storm, and even on Blue Storm the win ratio is only positive against one race.

Terran's recent success in the proleague can be seen in the top player stats. Last week we saw the first week with three Terran players in the top 10 and this week we find three Terran players in the top 10 again. This week though, the Terran players have taken positions 5-7, with only Luxury (who has reached fourth position by beating his fellow Zerg players), and the three Protoss fixtures still ahead of them.

GGPlay dropped down three spots after a surprise loss against Odin, while 815 is new on the rankings this week after beating Sea in the unexpected KTF victory over MBC.

Easiest Proleague
Last week I covered the players who has had the hardest proleague so far. This week I will check who has had the easiest proleague so far. The stat compares the average oppositional ELO of all players in the proleague who have played in more than five games this season.

5. sAviOr and maGma - These two players are tied fifth, with an average oppositional ELO of 1499. Both players also have a net score of -3 (2-5 for sAviOr, and 5-8 for maGma), so not only have both of them had one of the easiest proleagues, they've both had one of the worst.

4. Odin - Odin's opponents have had an average rating of 1496. Odin took good advantage of this by winning six games and losing only three.

3. Kal - Kal dominated the ranks early in the season with a net score of +7, and if we take into consideration that he's opponents have had an average rating of 1495, it's not hard to see how he's managed this.

2. Iris - Last season's OSL second place has been blessed with an easy Proleague this season, facing opponents with an average rating of 1479. Even though Iris has a score of 8-4 this season, many people were not impressed by his play, and perhaps the quality of his opponents has had to do with this.

1. Guemchi - With a 5-5 score, and an average oppositional rating of 1455, Guemchi has had the easiest introduction to progaming he could have asked for.

One of the most talked about topics at the moment is the occurence of mirror matches in the proleague. As the proleague progresses, the occurence of mirror matches increases, as does the complaints from teamliquid.

This week there were thirty 1v1 matches played, of which exactly 20 were mirror matches. This gives us an average of 66.6% of all 1v1 matches played being mirror matches, exactly twice as much as the expected 33.3%.

Over the last three weeks there has been eighty eight 1v1 matches played, of which 43 were mirror matches. This gives an average of 51.8% of matches played being mirror matches, a full 18.5% above the expected average of 33.3%. When this is compared to the first three weeks of the proleague which contained exaclty 90 games of which exactly 30 were mirror matches, we can see how the increased experience on maps leads to the increase in mirror matches.

A final feature of this week was the unexpected line-ups played by various teams, and the unexpected success of those line-ups. Samsung decided to play Jangbi, who was on 0-4 at the time, and Odin, who hasn't played in the proleague for two weeks, and hasn't won a game in the proleague for over a month and a half. More than this, they decided to play these players in a game which could decide whether they would make the playoffs or not, against a team that is notorious for creating upsets: Hanbit. Their decision payed off when Jangbi beat Guemchi, and Odin beat GGplay, finished off by consistent Stork taking a win over Free to give Samsung a 3-1 victory.

Similarly, KTF decided to play Violet on Baekmagoji, a map on which he was likely to face either Pusan or Sea. Violet ended up facing Pusan, and his victoy over Pusan was instrumental in KTF beating MBC. In line with this, STX not only played Sheis for the first time in over six weeks, but they played him twice. Sheis repayed STX by beating both Haran and Canata on Un'goro crater.
Hopefully these unexpected plays will continue as the proleague enters its last few weeks.

That's all for now; I hope you all enjoyed this week's Stats Report!
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trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
December 19 2007 16:48 GMT
#187
daigomi is a beast !!!!! congrats !!!!!!!


mad props !!!!
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
December 19 2007 17:26 GMT
#188
congratulations. and thanks again for all your hard work
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
December 19 2007 18:13 GMT
#189
Nice work man!
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-20 02:34:15
December 20 2007 02:29 GMT
#190
On December 17 2007 22:24 boghat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2007 10:37 pachi wrote:
Anytime keeps missing out on his chance to play
Free and Stork are catching up in game wins too.

+ Show Spoiler [Offtopic: Past Proleagues] +
Just for fun, I generated tables for some past proleagues:

SKY2006 R1 (Playoffs) (Without)
SKY2006 R2 (Playoffs) (Without)
SKY2006 ALL (Playoffs) (Without)
+ Show Spoiler [Disclaimer] +
Ratings may be off because the games seem to be added in an order that wasn't chronological


2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague R1 (Playoffs) (Without)

Would be pretty interesting if Jaedong wins this OSL because it would be mean the top 3 players of the 2006 Proleague in terms of net wins (by a large margin too) would be the 3 players to win the OSL in 2007, sAviOr, GGPlay, and now maybe Jaedong. Just found that interesting.

Also looking at the two 2007 tables quickly I made this list of the best 2007 Proleague players so far by net wins (including playoffs):

1. Stork 21
2. Sea 19
3. Anytime 16
4. free 14
5. Jaedong 12

So if Stork wins at least he is the best 2007 Proleague player so far.

Thanks for the tables of statistics by the way.


Looking at pure wins though, at the moment:
1. Anytime, Free 29
3. Stork 28
4. Sea 25
5. Jaedong 24

+ Show Spoiler [Pure Losses] +
1. Boxer 21
2. Tester 19
3. GGPlay, Upmagic, NaDa, Nal_rA 17
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-20 05:54:22
December 20 2007 04:56 GMT
#191
Lecaf defeated CJ 3-0 on Nov 28th, but it isn't listed in the team stats.

CJ has only played STX once so far this season, but it's listed twice under their stats.

Also under CJ, the second loss to KTF should be 2-3. It is correct in the KTF stats.

In KTF stats their match against OGN should be 1-3. It is correct in the OGN stats.

In OGN stats their recent loss to MBC should be 2-3. It is correct in the MBC stats.

SKT should be 6-12 on the standings chart. (the team stats are right)

Hanbit should be 9-9 on the standings chart. (the team stats are right)

I've been doing some things with the team stats, and just noticed a couple differences and had to investigate.
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
December 20 2007 09:34 GMT
#192
Thanks. That's a lot of errors. Fortunately they were all fairly minor, but I'm sorry that they got in there.
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
December 20 2007 16:55 GMT
#193
On December 20 2007 18:34 Daigomi wrote:
Thanks. That's a lot of errors. Fortunately they were all fairly minor, but I'm sorry that they got in there.


Yeah, I had about as many that this thread helped me fix, but since mine is under cover of darkness my mistakes were not noticable by everyone here.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-21 00:44:10
December 21 2007 00:42 GMT
#194
didn't see them here:

23 December 2007

CJ - STX SouL
(P)Much <Blue Storm> (P)Kal
(Z)sAviOr <Katrina> (T)Hwasin
(T)XellOs/(Z)Kwanro <Seongangil> (Z)Calm/(P)SoO[S.SiR]
(T)Iris <Un'Goro Crater> (T)Sheis
Closer <Python>

Samsung KHAN - MBCGame HERO
(Z)oDin <Un'Goro Crater> (T)Light
(T)firebathero <Monty Hall SE> (T)Sea
(Z)JiHyun/(T)CuteBOy <Hwangsanbul> (T)910/(Z)Thezerg
(P)JangBi <Blue Storm> (Z)HyuN
Closer <Katrina>


24 December 2007

KTF - eSTRO
(P)rA <Katrina> (P)Tester
(T)Flash <Python> (T)Sea.really
(T)By.SaiR/(Z)ZergBOy <Hwangsanbul> (Z)Cool[fOu]/(P)SangHo
(P)Reach <Baekmagoji> (Z)maGma
Closer <Un'Goro Crater>

SK Telecom T1 - Air Force ACE
(Z)s2 <Blue Storm> (T)BoxeR
(P)BeSt <Baekmagoji> (P)DaezanG
(P)Bul_T/(Z)AnomiA <Seongangil> (Z)H.O.T-Forever/(R)Clon
(P)MuJuK <Monty Hall SE> (Z)OversKy
Closer <Katrina>


25 December 2007

WeMade FOX - OnGameNet SPARKYZ
(T)Mind <Blue Storm> (Z)Luxury
(P)Rock <Baekmagoji> (P)Chalrenge
(T)Ho[WHITE]/(Z)Stay[HyO] <Seongangil> (Z)NsP_Flower/(T)Justin
(P)HerO <Monty Hall SE> (T)go.go
Closer <Katrina>

Hanbit Stars - Lecaf Oz
(Z)Child <Katrina> (P)Anytime
(P)free <Python> (Z)Jaedong
(Z)ZerO/(Z)Max(랜) <Hwangsanbul> (T)Lomo/(Z)ShinHwA
(P)GuemChi <Baekmagoji> (T)HiyA
Closer <Un'Goro Crater>


26 December 2007

CJ - MBCGame HERO
(Z)sAviOr <Blue Storm> (T)RuBy
(P)Much <Baekmagoji> (T)Light
(T)XellOs/(Z)Kwanro <Seongangil> (T)910/(Z)Thezerg
(T)Iris <Monty Hall SE> (T)Sea
Closer <Katrina>

Samsung KHAN - STX SouL
(P)Stork <Katrina> (P)Kal
(T)firebathero <Python> (T)Sheis
(P)TT/(Z)sigamari <Hwangsanbul> (Z)Calm/(T)Hwasin
(T)Freedom <Baekmagoji> (P)SoO[S.SiR]
Closer <Un'Goro Crater>
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
December 21 2007 00:53 GMT
#195
Wow... a lot of exciting match-ups this week! Several clashes of titans:

Savior v Hwasin
Free v Jaedong
Sea v Firebathero
Iris v Sea
Luxury v Mind
Much v Light

And that's just the very top few!
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Flopgun
Profile Joined August 2005
Germany274 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-21 00:56:28
December 21 2007 00:56 GMT
#196
Thank you for your work, you are the best


I think here is something wrong

Player Statistics
1v1
(T)(T)ChRh 0-1 (TvT 0-0, TvP 0-0, TvZ 1-0)
Jaedong fighting
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51489 Posts
December 21 2007 01:20 GMT
#197
Clon random? Hahaha.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51489 Posts
December 21 2007 01:22 GMT
#198
Wow, I just thought up of something for ACE.

On their last game day, they should send out their terrible players for some fun, example.

ChRh
Rage
fOru/MuMyung
HOT
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
December 23 2007 20:39 GMT
#199
On December 21 2007 10:22 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Wow, I just thought up of something for ACE.

On their last game day, they should send out their terrible players for some fun, example.

ChRh
Rage
fOru/MuMyung
HOT


and a P/T 2v2, so

MuMyung
Rage
fOru/ChRh
HOT
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-26 08:03:35
December 26 2007 08:02 GMT
#200
Lecaf, CJ, MBC pretty much locked in for playoffs now, considering their remaining opponents (Who cares, X X SKTT1, eSTRO ACE respectively).

Anytime only one game win off reaching free's 17 wins too.

Remaining teams likely for playoffs:

Lecaf Oz
15 Wins (+21) - 3 Games Left
+ Show Spoiler +
Week 13: OGN
Week 13: SKT T1
Week 14: WeMade


CJ Entus*
14 Wins (+12) - 3 Games Left
+ Show Spoiler +
Week 13: Samsung
Week 13: Hanbit
Week 14: SKT T1


MBCGame Hero *
13 Wins (+10) - 2 Games Left
+ Show Spoiler +
Week 13: eSTRO
Week 14: ACE


OGN Sparkyz
12 Wins (+14) - 3 Games Left
+ Show Spoiler +
Week 13: Lecaf
Week 13: KTF
Week 14: Hanbit


Samsung Khan *
10 Wins (+2) - 3 Games Left
+ Show Spoiler +
Week 13: CJ
Week 13: WeMade
Week 14: KTF


STX Soul *
10 Wins (-2) - 2 Games Left
+ Show Spoiler +
Week 13: ACE
Week 14: eSTRO


Hanbit Stars
9 Wins (-3) - 3 Games Left
+ Show Spoiler +
Week 13: WeMade
Week 13: CJ
Week 14: OGN
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