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2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague - Round 2 - Page 9

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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
December 09 2007 02:33 GMT
#161
There's another 2v2 team that's doing good.

eStro's Sangho/Cool[fou] team is currently 6-0

oO!!
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
December 09 2007 09:00 GMT
#162
Yes, I'm glad they are doing well. For some reason I've been supporting Cool since he was semi-pro. I loved the lame way he played. I was disappointed with his 2v2 stats this season (as I judge him to be a good 2v2 specialist) until finally he seems to have found a decent partner.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 09 2007 09:39 GMT
#163
Jaedong actually has one ZvT win over Iris

so he's 1-3 not 0-3
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
December 09 2007 10:31 GMT
#164
I seem to have missed that game, since it wasn't included in Iris's stats either. Thanks for pointing it out.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-11 01:40:29
December 11 2007 01:37 GMT
#165
Anytime keeps missing out on his chance to play
Free and Stork are catching up in game wins too.

+ Show Spoiler [Offtopic: Past Proleagues] +
Just for fun, I generated tables for some past proleagues:

SKY2006 R1 (Playoffs) (Without)
SKY2006 R2 (Playoffs) (Without)
SKY2006 ALL (Playoffs) (Without)
+ Show Spoiler [Disclaimer] +
Ratings may be off because the games seem to be added in an order that wasn't chronological


2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague R1 (Playoffs) (Without)
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 11 2007 18:32 GMT
#166
what are the standings now?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
December 11 2007 18:39 GMT
#167
You can check tomorrow. They'll be up after the games of tomorrow.
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-12 14:46:45
December 12 2007 11:56 GMT
#168
Ok, so update out!

Weekly Stats Report!

As the proleague nears its final quarter things are really starting to heat up. There's a single match difference between the last play-off spot and the 8th spot. There are 6 teams contending for the last two play-off spots at the moment, and the next few weeks will be crucial for all teams that stand a chance.

KTF is on a three match winning streak, with the young players taking all the wins. Haran beat Mind and Much in the last two week, 815 beat Xellos and Hero but lost to GGPlay, and Flash beat free, Nada and Much, with KTF's final wins coming from the raid and sair, leaving only one older player getting a win (Hery over GuemChi).

This week also saw some result turn-arounds between teams. Samsung beat eSTRO 3-0, after losing to them 0-3 earlier in the season, KTF beat Hanbit 3-1, after losing to them 1-3 earlier in the season, KTF also beat WeMade 3-2 after losing to them 2-3 earlier in the season, and finally SKT lost to Hanbit 1-3 after beating them 3-1 earlier in the season. Other than that, Lecaf beat STX 3-0 after losing to them 1-3 a few weeks ago, and MBC beat OGN 3-2, after losing to them 1-3 earlier in the season.

The 2v2 games remain highly unpredictable with Flower/Justin taking a loss to Thezerg/910, and SangHo/Cool and Jihyun/Cuteboy continuing their unlikely climbs. The WeMade 2v2 teams also both had good weeks, moving into the top five 2v2 teams.

Stork is continuing his show of form, taking the top spot from Anytime. Perhaps, now that Autumn is over, we will see more players passing Anytime. Luxury is just one win away from the top spot at the moment, as is Much, so we can expect tense games from these players in the coming weeks. This is also the first week that we have three terran players on the top ten, clearly showing the increased performance of terran players in the proleague.

Toughest Proleague
The players that have had the toughest proleagues so far (using Pachi's wonderful ELO list, and only taking players with five games or more), in descending order, are:

5. go.go - facing opponents with an average rating of 1558 and walking away with a 6-3 score is not bad.

4. iloveOov - facing opponents with an average rating of 1566 but only managing a 3-4 score, his tough competition is clearly counting against him

3. HyuN - facing opponents with an average rating of 1571 and managing 4-3 is not bad,
especially considering the role he played in MBC's recent victory over OGN.

2. ChalRenge - facing opponents with an average rating of 1573 but falling short with a score of 4-5 we can see Chalrenge's regular position as an ace player count against him.

1. Haran - facing opponents with an average rating of 1598, Haran is the player that has faced the stiffest competition so far this proleague, walking away with a 4-1 score against the likes of Much, Hwasin, Light, Mind and Anytime, this kid has performed exceptionally well.

Zerg continues to have a hard time this proleague. With only a 44% win ratio at the moment, they are sporting bad records against Protoss and Terran now, and the only maps in which Zerg has a 50% win record or higher are Un'goro Crater (a map aimed at Zerg), and Blue Storm (a map where their strong ZvT score is helping keep a positive win record). Let's hope the zerg players can pull the stats back before the end of the season.

That's all for this week's update. I hope you all enjoyed it! Please feel free to point out any mistakes made in this weeks proleague stats.
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Tigron
Profile Joined November 2007
United States13 Posts
December 12 2007 13:37 GMT
#169
Standings look A-ok this week. Good job!
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
December 12 2007 13:38 GMT
#170
yay weekly report

wouldn't luxury and much both need 2 wins or stork to lose in order to over take?
even with the same net, they're both behind by a game win.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
December 12 2007 13:54 GMT
#171
Well, I've gone over from total wins to ELO to determine how a player is ranked if the net difference is the same. But I guess that it's not likely for them to gain more than 100 rating points with a win. They should pass Anytime though.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 12 2007 22:48 GMT
#172
Let's go, KTF!


GET SIX CONSECUTIVE WINS

14-8 is good enough for postseason, hopefully.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
December 12 2007 23:15 GMT
#173
Goddamn SKT... oov better make MSL and show some nice play or this season will suck (for me).
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-12 23:51:55
December 12 2007 23:42 GMT
#174
SKT only has two players with positive win records at the moment: BeSt and Kingdom. If your best players are BeSt and Kingdom, then you know you are having a rough time.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
December 13 2007 22:45 GMT
#175
Week 11 lineups are up on the calendar. Unfortunately I closed the wrong window so I can't paste them all in here at once. :p
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 09:39:46
December 14 2007 09:35 GMT
#176
15 December 2007

KTF MagicNs vs STX SouL
(Z)Haran < Un'Goro Crater > (T)Sheis
(T)Flash < Monty Hall SE > (Z)Calm
(P)Reach/(Z)ZergBOy < Hwangsanbul > (Z)Modesty[GsP]/(T)TheStC
815 < Blue Storm > (T)Hwasin
Closer < Katrina >

SK Telecom T1 vs MBCGame HERO
(T)Midas < Python > (T)RuBy
(Z)GoRush < Un'Goro Crater > (T)Light
(Z)AnomiA/(T)Shudder < Seongangil > (T)910/(Z)Thezerg
(P)BeSt < Katrina > (P)Pusan
Closer < Baekmagoji >

16 December 2007

Lecaf Oz vs Air Force ACE
(T)HiyA < Blue Storm > (T)BoxeR
(P)Anytime < Katrina > (P)fOru
(Z)ggaemo/(T)Dongrae < Seongangil > (P)DaezanG/(Z)Clon
(Z)Jaedong < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)OversKy
Closer < Python >

OnGameNet SPARKYZ vs eSTRO
(Z)Luxury < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)MinGu
(T)go.go < Monty Hall SE > (T)UpMagiC
(Z)NsP_Flower/(T)Justin < Hwangsanbul > (Z)Cool[fOu]/(P)SangHo
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] < Blue Storm > (Z)hyvaa[S.G]
Closer < Katrina >

17 December 2007

Samsung KHAN vs Hanbit Stars
(P)JangBi < Monty Hall SE > (P)GuemChi
(Z)oDin < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)GGPlay
(Z)JiHyun/(T)CuteBOy < Hwangsanbul > (P)FanTastic_NamoO/(Z)Max
(P)Stork < Katrina > (P)free
Closer < Baekmagoji >

CJ Entus vs WeMade FOX
(T)Iris < Python > (P)Rock
(T)XellOs < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)FireFist
(T)DarkElf/(Z)Kwanro < Seongangil > (T)Ho[WHITE]/(Z)Stay[HyO]
(Z)sAviOr < Katrina > (Z)Nal_keke
Closer < Baekmagoji >

18 December 2007

SK Telecom T1 vs STX SouL
(T)Canata < Un'Goro Crater > (T)Sheis
(P)BeSt < Katrina > (P)SoO[S.SiR]
(Z)AnomiA/(T)Shudder < Seongangil > (P)BestGod/(Z)Calm
(P)MuJuK < Monty Hall SE > (P)Kal
Closer < Blue Storm >

KTF MagicNs vs MBCGame HERO
(T)Flash < Python > (T)Light
(P)Violet < Baekmagoji > (P)Pusan
(P)Reach/(Z)ZergBOy < Hwangsanbul > (Z)Saint[z-zone]/(T)Sea
(T)Hery < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)HyuN
Closer < Blue Storm >

19 December 2007

OnGameNet SPARKYZ vs Air Force ACE
(Z)Luxury < Blue Storm > (Z)OversKy
(P)Chalrenge < Baekmagoji > (T)BoxeR
(Z)NsP_Flower/(T)Justin < Seongangil > (P)DaezanG/(Z)Clon
(T)go.go < Monty Hall SE > (T)ChRh
Closer < Katrina >

Lecaf Oz vs eSTRO
(P)Anytime < Katrina > (Z)MinGu
(T)HiyA < Python > (T)Sea.really
(T)Lomo/(Z)ShinHwA < Hwangsanbul > (Z)Cool[fOu]/(P)SangHo
(Z)Jaedong < Baekmagoji > (T)UpMagiC
Closer < Un'Goro Crater >
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 10:18:09
December 14 2007 10:16 GMT
#177
KTF MagicNs vs STX SouL
(Z)Haran < Un'Goro Crater > (T)Sheis
(T)Flash < Monty Hall SE > (Z)Calm
(P)Reach/(Z)ZergBOy < Hwangsanbul > (Z)Modesty[GsP]/(T)TheStC
815 < Blue Storm > (T)Hwasin
Closer < Katrina >

Haran > Sheis
I think Haran should beat Sheis. He has beaten much stronger Terran players, so I have faith in.
him.

Flash > Calm
Definitely Flash. I have tremendous faith in Flash, especially on Monty Hall, and Calm has had a disappointing season for me. I really thought he would do something notable this season.

Reach/ZergBOy > Modesty[GsP]/TheStC
Reach and Zergboy over any new team, especially if that new team has TheStC as its "experienced" player.

KTF 3 - 0 STX

If it goes to a fourth map I expect Hwasin to win, although I think 815 has a decent chance. The Closer i'm not entirely sure about. I think KTF should play Flash. The only protoss he could face is Kal, who hasn't been playing well recently. It will probably be a Flash vs Hwasin closer, which I would give 50:50 odds.


KTF MagicNs vs MBCGame HERO
(T)Flash < Python > (T)Light
(P)Violet < Baekmagoji > (P)Pusan
(P)Reach/(Z)ZergBOy < Hwangsanbul > (Z)Saint[z-zone]/(T)Sea
(T)Hery < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)HyuN
Closer < Blue Storm >

Flash > Light
Flash has played way too many TvT's on Python (I really dislike the map for TvT), and his games have all been convincing (look at Flash vs Nada last week).

Violet < Pusan
I can't see the Pusan losing this. I am glad that KTF are giving Violet more practise, but perhaps they should do the same for Lucifer. The fact that KTF never plays Lucifer doesn't give me much faith in him, but he always looks good when I see him play.

Reach/ZergBOy > Saint[z-zone]/Sea
This one is tricky. I'd bet on Reach/Zergbong again because Saint and Sea haven't really played together, but I can see how Saint and Sea could be a strong 2v2 team.

Hery > HyuN
Yet another close game. Hery played a good game on Un'goro earlier the season, and I still think he is average enough to beat most up and coming players. Hyun hasn't impressed me with his play too much either, but he definitely has a chance of winning.

KTF 3 : 1 MBC

If it goes to the closer:

Closer: Flash > Pusan
Even though TvP is Flash's "worst" matchup, there are only two players that have consistently beaten Flash in this matchup, and even then it's never been clearcut. This will be a tough game, but I'd bet on Flash.
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cSf.Loser
Profile Joined December 2005
Czech Republic115 Posts
December 14 2007 11:25 GMT
#178
On December 14 2007 19:16 Daigomi wrote:
KTF MagicNs vs STX SouL
(Z)Haran < Un'Goro Crater > (T)Sheis
(T)Flash < Monty Hall SE > (Z)Calm
(P)Reach/(Z)ZergBOy < Hwangsanbul > (Z)Modesty[GsP]/(T)TheStC
815 < Blue Storm > (T)Hwasin
Closer < Katrina >

Haran > Sheis
I think Haran should beat Sheis. He has beaten much stronger Terran players, so I have faith in.
him.

Flash > Calm
Definitely Flash. I have tremendous faith in Flash, especially on Monty Hall, and Calm has had a disappointing season for me. I really thought he would do something notable this season.

Reach/ZergBOy > Modesty[GsP]/TheStC
Reach and Zergboy over any new team, especially if that new team has TheStC as its "experienced" player.

KTF 3 - 0 STX

If it goes to a fourth map I expect Hwasin to win, although I think 815 has a decent chance. The Closer i'm not entirely sure about. I think KTF should play Flash. The only protoss he could face is Kal, who hasn't been playing well recently. It will probably be a Flash vs Hwasin closer, which I would give 50:50 odds.


KTF MagicNs vs MBCGame HERO
(T)Flash < Python > (T)Light
(P)Violet < Baekmagoji > (P)Pusan
(P)Reach/(Z)ZergBOy < Hwangsanbul > (Z)Saint[z-zone]/(T)Sea
(T)Hery < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)HyuN
Closer < Blue Storm >

Flash > Light
Flash has played way too many TvT's on Python (I really dislike the map for TvT), and his games have all been convincing (look at Flash vs Nada last week).

Violet < Pusan
I can't see the Pusan losing this. I am glad that KTF are giving Violet more practise, but perhaps they should do the same for Lucifer. The fact that KTF never plays Lucifer doesn't give me much faith in him, but he always looks good when I see him play.

Reach/ZergBOy > Saint[z-zone]/Sea
This one is tricky. I'd bet on Reach/Zergbong again because Saint and Sea haven't really played together, but I can see how Saint and Sea could be a strong 2v2 team.

Hery > HyuN
Yet another close game. Hery played a good game on Un'goro earlier the season, and I still think he is average enough to beat most up and coming players. Hyun hasn't impressed me with his play too much either, but he definitely has a chance of winning.

KTF 3 : 1 MBC

If it goes to the closer:

Closer: Flash > Pusan
Even though TvP is Flash's "worst" matchup, there are only two players that have consistently beaten Flash in this matchup, and even then it's never been clearcut. This will be a tough game, but I'd bet on Flash.


agree but (T)Sheis has 7-0 in tvz so this will be really good show i hope
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
December 14 2007 13:20 GMT
#179
Jaedong < Baekmagoji > UpMagiC

Hmm a horendously t favoured map for the semi final rematch.

But up did lose to july .
sAviOr...
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 13:56:53
December 14 2007 13:52 GMT
#180
agree but Sheis has 7-0 in tvz so this will be really good show i hope

I didn't realise he did so well against T players. Looking at the list though, except for two Jaedong wins (one which was in Jaedong's recent ZvT slump in the proleague), and one Luxury win, he hasn't had the toughest TvZ games (2 against Jju, 1 against Mumyung, and 1 against Silver).

A 7-0 score vs Z that includes wins against Jaedong and Luxury is still impressive though.

EDIT: Sheis actually ended Jaedong's winning streak, after which Jaedong had a fairly bad ZvT run in the proleague (losing to Sea and Freedom afterwards, but beating Iris).
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