2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague - Round 2 - Page 11

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

December 26 2007 10:45 GMT

#201

I won't be able to update today, but I should get the update out by friday. I'm not at home at the moment, but I thought I could do my update from my location with my laptop, but I forgot the spreadsheets at home.

So this is just to let those of you interested know

Manifesto7

Osaka27148 Posts

December 26 2007 10:53 GMT

#202

We are both interested and patient. Hope you had a great holidays.

IntoTheWow

is awesome32274 Posts

December 27 2007 08:15 GMT

#203

No rush Daigomi. You have done an awesome job so far :O

:D

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

December 29 2007 17:29 GMT

#204

Finally - Update Out!

On a quick personal note, I'm sorry if the update has been a bit slow in coming this week, I've been bombarded with obstacles. I went on holiday for the Christmas week, only to find that I forgot my Proleague spreadsheets at home. This delayed the process a bit, and then, while on holiday, I managed to break my foot and drink some poisoned water, which landed me in hospital for a few hours when I got back from my first week of holiday, a few hours which made me forget to copy the spreadsheets to my laptop as I headed off to my second week on holiday where I am now. That said, I created a new set of spreadsheets today (which you may find looks slightly different as I am using OpenOffice on this laptop, not Excel, so let me know which set you prefer). But here we are now, with the update ready for you all!

Weekly Stats Report!

With less than a month left in the Proleague round robin stage, things were expected to heat up this week as teams battle it out for the last play-off positions. While CJ and Lecaf were safe at the top, the battle for third and fourth qualifying positions raged on with Samsung having the greatest chances- poised firmly on 10-7.

That said, MBC guaranteed themselves a spot in the play-offs this week with decisive wins over Samsung and CJ, and OGN is all but guaranteed a spot with the mid-ranked teams all failing this week. Samsung can only qualify if OGN lose their last three games, thanks to defeats to MBC and STX this week, while STX has squandered its chances by losing to CJ on the first day of the week. KTF continues its run as the most hated team on Liquibet by losing to eSTRO this week after their upset over MBC last week, and WeMade and Hanbit's disappointing 0-3 defeats to OGN and CJ respectively has blown their chances of reaching the playoffs this season.

In the map stats, Zerg has gained a 2% increase in their winning percentages after sAviOr took care of Hwasin on Katrina, both Hyun and Luxury grabbed more Zerg wins on Blue Storm, Jaedong showed us that he can play against Protoss by beating Free on Python, and s2, after a rocky start to his Minor League season, took care of Boxer.

That said, Zerg also suffered some setbacks versus Terran, with the most notable being sAviOr's loss to Ruby on Blue Storm, a map that sported a 12-2 score in favour of Zerg before sAviOrs loss. And on that note:

Worst Players of the Season
Some players are expected to do poorly and cannot be said to have a bad season when their net scores are negative. When a player has been on the KeSPA top 30 in the last four months though, a little more is expected. This is a list of the worst performances by the players ranked highest since the Proleague started.

10. Midas - Ranked 26th on the September rankings, and with a net score of -2, Midas is the first of the SKT players on the list.

9. GoRush - Ranked 25th on the same rankings, and tied with Midas with a net score of -2, GoRush takes the spot directly below his SKT teammate.

8. Calm - Ranked as high as 20th on the October rankings by KeSPA, and with a net score of -2, Calm takes a strong 8th spot.

7. Hwasin - For a player that has been ranked 5th in the world since June of this year, -2 can only be seen as a poor performance.

6. Bisu - His #1 ranking in the world is definitely not thanks to his Proleague performances, with a -2 net score and only four 1v1 games, Bisu has now been demoted to 2v2 partner in the MBC ranks.

5. Casy - Although Casy only managed to reach rank 29 in the last four months, his 0-3 performance in the Proleague this season warrants him a position in the Worst Players of the Season box.

4. July - The last player from SKT to make the list, July started Septemer ranked 22nd, and was only ousted from the KeSPA rankings in December. His three under par will definitely not bring a smile to the SKT coach's face.

3. Reach - Starting as high up as 17th on the rankings, Reach has maintained his position on the KeSPA top 30 for the last four months with his dazzling performance in the ... ... Still searching for his first win in the Proleague, Reach has lost three games now, and it doesn't seem like he will stop any time soon.

2. sAviOr - Ranked third in the world from September to December, sAviOr will not be happy with his Proleague performance so far, having won only three games while losing six.

1. Nal_rA - The runaway winner for Worst Player of the Season, Nal_rA started September ranked 27th by KeSPA, and managed to climb up to 24th in October. He has still not dropped from the KeSPA rankings. With that said, Nal_rA has not only beaten all the challengers for this #1 spot with a whopping -7 net score, he has also beaten all non-contestants (including DaezanG, Rage, and Mingu) to earn himself the award of Worst Player of the Season.

On the other side of the specturm, Sea and Luxury have continued their climb up the Best Player ladder, with Sea taking two respectable wins vs Iris and Firebathero, and Luxury showing that he can do more than pummel his Zerg brothers by defeating the defending MSL chamption.

Those that were denied playing time this week may regret it as Kal rushed past them with his two victories, one against Stork, and another against Much, earning himself his highest position on the ranks in over two months. Darkelf also made a comeback for the first time in months by taking down Calm in a closer for CJ. Calm's dreary score against Terran (started by Iris and Darkelf on the very first day of the Proleague) continues as his most recent loss drops it down to 2-5.

Finally, in the 2v2 standings, Justin and Flower continue their reign at the top as they quickly take care of WeMade's prized Stay/Ho combination. Cool and SangHo, as well as JiHyun and Cuteboy, keep on showing that 2v2 games can be predictable as their winning streaks continue, and one is left wondering why no other team has come close to showing the domination presented by the top three teams this season.

That's all there is in the Proleague Stats Report this week. I hope you've enjoyed it!

pachi

Melbourne5338 Posts

January 02 2008 07:49 GMT

#205

yay, i just noticed anytime is a lock for most game wins and MVP.
Whats the criteria for best rookie? If its not strictly debuting during this season, then I think 815 or Haran should have it.

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

January 04 2008 20:39 GMT

#206

Update out!

Weekly Stats Report!

As the proleague progressed to the penultimate week, three of the play-off spots had been decided, and OGN only needed one win to secure their position.

The week got off to a rocky start for OGN as they were run over 3-0 by the league leaders Lecaf. OGN came back strongly on the last day of the week though, and took down the up and coming KTF team 1-3, with only Hogil taking a loss to 815.

KTF also had a match at the start of the week where they faced off against their rivals SKT. The match was decided in the closer by a rematch of the first game between Flash and Canata. After losing the first game, Flash secured his team a victory by taking the second game.

There were a few upsets in the matches this week of which the biggest upset was certainly STX taking a 0-3 nose-dive against ACE. ACE managed to win the match by playing their season's two most dependable players: Oversky (7-8), and Boxer (10-10), who took wins off Kal and TheStC respectively. After ACE took the lead 2-0, Sunny and Clon team gave ACE their third victory this season.

The second big upset of the week occured in one of the most hyped proleague matches of the season: CJ Entus vs Samsung KHAN. In their previous match CJ took a decisive 3-1 win with only sAviOr falling short against Firebathero. This match offered a rematch to not only sAviOr as he faced Firebathero again, but also to Stork who lost against Much the previous time the teams met. In the end, sAviOr repeated his performance from earlier in the season against Firebathero, while Stork took venegeance on Much for his previous loss. Bolstered by the strong JiHyun/Cuteboy 2v2 team, Samsung finished the match in three games.

In the map statistics Zerg has continued to improve while Protoss's success rate continues to steadily decline. As the season comes to an end, each map is firmly cemented into a position with certain match-ups being favoured, while others are avoided. This allows us to look at the:

Map Balance
With the statistics available to us we can see which maps were the most balanced this season, and which maps were the least. The formula I used to calculate this was simply to add the difference between each race's winning percentage and 50% together. The higher the difference of all three races added together, the more imbalanced the map was, and vice versa.

With that in mind, the most imbalanced maps of the season were:

3. Blue Storm - Blue Storm is fairly balanced in both TvP and PvZ, but unfortunately the ZvT balance is atrocious, with Zerg winning 13 of the 17 encouters on the map.

2. Un'goro Crater - Perhaps one of the most interesting maps this season, Un'goro crater falls short of a well-balanced map by allowing Terran to build in the middle of the map. This minor problem with the map creates major problems for Protoss, as a slow push is inevitable on the map.

1. Katrina - Katrina suffers from not one bad matchup, but two. Protoss dominates this map with a 74% win percentage against the other races. Terran has only managed to win one of it's first nine games against Protoss on the map, while Zerg has won less than half its games against Protoss.

In the player stats this week: Anytime has cemented his position as the MVP for the season, and also as the player with the most wins of the season, and while Aytime runs away with pole position, the fight for second place rages one. Stork currently holds second position but a bad result against Haran next week could allow any of the top ten players to take his spot.

The contest for the best rookie award is also tense as atleast five of the top ten players could be considered young players, while perhaps only two of them would be considered rookies. 815 is one of the rookies (although he played one game in the final week of the previous proleague), and he has shown why he is a strong contender for the rookie award by continuing his proleague run this week by beating both BeSt and HoGil.

Strongest Players by Matchup
Looking at the strongest player opf each matchup you will find that many of the top players of the proleague are on the top players list thanks to one specific matchup, while others who may not be considered great players appear on the best matchup list due to one specific matchup. The list is as follows:

The most interesting players on the list are without a dobut Boxer and BeSt. Boxer has dominated his games against Terran this season, especially against the younger generation of Terran players. Boxer's victims include: HiYa (his only loss), Lomo, Mind, Frozean, and TheManiaMST.

BeSt has also dominated his mirror matchup, showing a staggering 8-1 score. His victims include: Tester, Ra, Jangbi, and recently, Pusan and Anytime. His only loss was given to him by Rock.

Finally, Flower and Justin have retained their position as the top team in the proleague after another mediocre week in which they took one win as well as a loss. In their last eight games the OGN team has won only four matches: Both the Jihyun/Cuteboy and the Cool/Sangho team have shown better recent form than Flower and Justin. With that said, Flower and Justin have guaranteed themselves the MvP award this season by reaching a 10+ net score, and never falling below the 10+ mark.

That's all there is for this week. Next week will only have three days of Proleague, so expect an update slightly sooner. We'll look back at the whole season next week, and perhaps make some predictions for the play-offs. I hope you've all enjoyed the update, and feel free to leave your thoughts!

Hot_Bid

Braavos36374 Posts

January 05 2008 00:10 GMT

#207

thanks for the update, will comment later

MuShu

United States3223 Posts

January 05 2008 07:43 GMT

#208

Nice, keep up the great work Daigomi.

Carefree

United States1571 Posts

January 06 2008 03:14 GMT

#209

So now that the round-robin's almost over... when are the finals going to be? Any news?

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

January 08 2008 16:52 GMT

#210

Update out!

Weekly Stats Report!

After fouteen weeks, 67 days of play, 132 matches, and 541 games, the proleague round-robin stage has finally come to a close. The play-off spots have been decided.

At the top of the log we find Lecaf, a team whose lowest position this proleague has been tied first; a team who lost their first match after nine matches. In second place is MBCGame HERO, coming back from a dreadful 1-3 start to finish the season 15-7. CJ will be disappointed with their third place finish (tied 15-7 with MBC, but losing on games) after holding second place or higher for eight consecutive weeks only to be passed in the last week of play. The final play-off spot goes to OGN, a team that has been consistently in the top four spots for the duration of the Proleague.

Looking back at the proleague it is interesting to see how this season has progressed, to note similarities, but also changes that occurred throughout this season. This week's update will look back to the start of the proleague (at least to the first spreadsheets I made), to see what how things have changed since the start of the proleague.

+ Show Spoiler [24 October 2007] +

Looking at the team standings we can see that not much has changed. Lecaf, OGN, and CJ have stayed at the top of the rankings from the start, and MBC quickly recovered from their bad start.

The two biggest changers on the team standings are KTF and Samsung. Samsung climbed six spots to fifth place, missing a spot in the play-offs with only one match, in contrast with this, KTF dropped five spots from a qualifying spot to end as one of the bottom four teams.

+ Show Spoiler [24 October 2007] +

Since the start of this proleague the maps have changed and evolved as players' grasp of the maps grow, and the effects of imballances become more obvious. By looking at the changes in the statistics we can see how the players' perceptions about the maps have changed.

Baekmagoji has changed from a TvZ dominant map to a TvP/PvP map, with only three TvZs being played in the last three months, while 18 TvPs and 16 PvPs were played.

Blue Storm has changed from a Protoss dominated map (Protoss had a 69% winning percentage at the time the stats were first generated), to a Zerg dominated map (63% winning percentage at the end of the round-robin stage). In contrast, Protoss now only have a 48% winning percentage.

Katrina has remained a Protoss map throughout the season, with the only change being Zerg fairing much worse in the latter half of the season.

Un'goro Crater can be seen as the map that has changed the least since the start of the season. When the season started, everyone knew the map would be a TvZ battleground, and the map has remained well-balanced in that matchup throughout the season. No other matchup (except for the mirrors) were ever truly played on the map.

+ Show Spoiler [7 November 2007] +

In the 1v1 standings we see Anytime holding on to his position from the start of the season. The only other players that have remained on the list since the strat of the season are Sea and Luxury. Jaedong was on the list for a long time, and then dropped off the list for a long time- It was only in the penultimate week of the round-robin stage that Jaedong managed to join the list again. Kal was also a fixture on the top players list before a big losing streak caused him to drop from the list. It is only during the last week of the season that Kal has managed to get back onto the list.

Something that is interesting to note is the growth of the younger players this season: go.go, 815, Darkelf, and HiYa joined the list only in the second half of the season. While some of these players were known before the proleague started, few of them were well respected. As this season comes to a close now, there are not many experienced players that would confidently face the new proleague stars.

+ Show Spoiler [7 November 2007] +

In the 2v2 standings we see Justin and Flower has continue their domination from start to end. Not all teams were able to do this though, as Reach and Zergbong ended the proleague on a 6-7 score, losing their last five games in a row. Lake and Shudder were also unable to improve on their score, winning only one of their last four games, and while Much and Jy were unable to improve on their score (they didn't played together again) they rejoined the 2v2 standings this week, still sporting the same 3-0 score.

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Looking forward to the up-and-coming play-offs it is perhaps poignant to look at the results these teams have had playing each other as they prepare to face off again.

+ Show Spoiler [Previous Results] +

Lecaf Oz
0-3 vs MBCGame HERO
3-2 vs MBCGame HERO

3-1 vs CJ Entus
3-0 vs CJ Entus

1-3 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ
3-0 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ

MBCGame HERO
3-0 vs Lecaf Oz
2-3 vs Lecaf Oz

1-3 vs CJ Entus
3-1 vs CJ Entus

1-3 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ
3-2 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ

CJ Entus
1-3 vs Lecaf Oz
0-3 vs Lecaf Oz

3-1 vs MBCGame HERO
1-3 vs MBCGame HERO

3-2 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ
3-2 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ

OnGameNet SPARKYZ
3-1 vs Lecaf Oz
0-3 vs Lecaf Oz

3-1 vs MBCGame HERO
2-3 vs MBCGame HERO

2-3 vs CJ Entus
2-3 vs CJ Entus

The results are fairly equal and representative of the team's positions: Lecaf has done the best against its fellow quaifiers, beating them four times and losing only twice, while OGN has done the worse, winning only two of its matches and losing six. OGN has also lost its last three matches against the qualifiers, perhaps making them a slight underdog for the play-offs.

MBC has done well, taking a win from every qualifying team, and their depth might help them against the other teams in the BO7 setup of the play-offs. CJ has also won half their matches, but unlike MBC they did not manage to win a match against Lecaf but beat OGN twice. CJ also has a line-up with great depth, which could change their result against Lecaf should they face them again.

With that said, it is impossible to say what the play-off results will be. The changing format of the play-offs, as well as the inconsistent form shown by the teams, are sure to make the play-offs very unpredictable and exciting!

That is all there is for this week. I hope you have all enjoyed this week's laak at the proleague, and that you are all looking forward to the play-offs as much as I am!

mrdx

Vietnam1555 Posts

January 16 2008 01:21 GMT

#211

I think there is a mistake in the match between ACE and MBCGame on 5 January 2008 (in the OP). Please recheck.

pachi

Melbourne5338 Posts

January 16 2008 02:07 GMT

#212

On January 16 2008 10:21 mrdx wrote:
I think there is a mistake in the match between ACE and MBCGame on 5 January 2008 (in the OP). Please recheck.

Real Result:
(P)

Bisu >

OversKy @ Katrina
(T)

RuBy <

BoxeR @ Blue Storm
(T)

910 /

Thezerg <

Clon /

Sunny @ Seongangil
(P)

Pusan >

DaezanG @ Baekmagoji
(P)

Bisu >

OversKy @ Monty Hall SE
MBCGame HERO 3 - 2 Air Force ACE

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

January 16 2008 09:25 GMT

#213

Sorry, I have that fixed in the stats, since I noticed the misake (I accidentally took someone's predictions rather than the results), but I must have forgotten to add the stats thtere.

Disarray

United States1164 Posts

January 20 2008 09:53 GMT

#214

im confused by this playoff picture im trying to create in my head where CJ has to play all 3 of the other top teams....

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

January 20 2008 16:25 GMT

#215

They do need to play all three other play off teams if they want to win. That's the difference between coming 3rd or 4th in the round robin stage and 1st or 2nd.

sage_francis

France1823 Posts

January 22 2008 19:51 GMT

#216

thank you very much for this excellent thread...amazing work !

Guybrush

Spain4744 Posts

January 29 2008 22:57 GMT

#217

Thank you so much for your effort Daigomi

Just want to say that while there are imbalances on these maps, I think they are much better than the Round 1 maps which forced tons of TvT on Geometry and tons of PvP on Nemesis. The less mirror matchups the better maps.

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

January 30 2008 07:16 GMT

#218

Just so that everyone knows, this thread is over now. I've added a small Playoffs section, but the stats do not include the playoffs as well, just the round robin stage.

Hope you've all enjoyed the proleague this season, and I should be here next season, doing the same thing for you guys!