• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:06
CEST 00:06
KST 07:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)4TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2
Community News
herO joins T121Artosis vs Ret Showmatch43Classic wins RSL Revival Season 22Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four2SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update290
StarCraft 2
General
Had to smile :) Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) herO joins T1 Storm change is a essentially a strict buff on PTR SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Prome's Evo #1 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense
Brood War
General
Artosis vs Ret Showmatch Thoughts on rarely used units ASL 20 Soundtrack StarCraft 1 Beta Test (Video) ASL20 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War! Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] Sorry, Chill, My Bad :…
Peanutsc
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 804 users

Sonic 3 + Knuckles (A Diary of Video Games)

Blogs > DRTnOOber
Post a Reply
DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 01:41:24
October 17 2012 23:22 GMT
#1
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 + Knuckles

[image loading]

Developer: Sonic Team
Platform: Sega Megadrive/Genesis
Release: 1994
Genres: Platform Scroller

Originally the two games Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Sonic and Knuckles were meant to be one game. Due to the space restrictions on the Sega Megadrive/Genesis cartridge, the game was split into two. These two cartridges could be "snapped" together to be played as one complete game (which is the game I am referring to).

Basic Plot

The game was split into two campaigns; the original Sonic the Hedgehog 3 campaign, and the Sonic the Knuckles story. Both could be played as Sonic, Knuckles, Sonic and Tails, or Tails.

At the end of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Dr. Robotnik's Death Egg crash lands on Angel Island. Dr. Robotnik meets Knuckles on the island and tricks him into thinking Sonic and Tails are trying to steal his Master Emerald.

[image loading]
The start of the game, before Knuckles steals the Chaos Emeralds.

Knuckles continually hinders Sonic and Tails' progress throughout the game as they try to reach Dr. Robotnik and stop him re-launching the Death Egg. Because of this. Dr Robotnik is ultimately able to re-launch the Death Egg and throws Knuckles off the edge.

Robotnik then uses the Master Emerald to power a robot, but Sonic is able to defeat the robot, retrieve the Master Emerald, and take out the Death Egg.

Knuckles' story is different for the second half of the game and involves defeating Egg Robo and Mecha Sonic.

Gameplay

As with the previous games in the series this was a 2D action side-scrolling platform game.

The gameplay experience was different depending on which character you played. Sonic was faster and could jump higher, while Knuckles could break through barriers, glide, and climb up walls. The game was shorter when played as Knuckles but the level layouts more complicated.

There are a series of special stages available throughout the game. They differ from the previous games in that you are in a pseudo 3D world, but have a 360 degree view around. The objective is to touch blue orbs (which turn into red ones) without touching any blue orb more than once (as it turns red). When you touch the required amnount you complete the stage and obtain a Chaos Emerald.

[image loading]
Hyper Sonic.

Obtaining all the chaos emeralds allows you, as in the previous game, to turn into Super Sonic. However, because you're essentially playing the game twice and can obtain two sets of chaos emeralds (the chaos emeralds, and the super emeralds), you are able to obtain the ultimate form of Hyper Sonic during the second half of the game. Hyper Sonic is an even faster version of Super Sonic (impervious to physical damage other than being crushed or falling, obtained by jumping in the air with >= 50 rings) who glows white. You can also obtain Super Tails, Super Knuckles, and Hyper Knuckles.

The game is split into "zones" which consist of two or three levels. Each level must be completed within a time frame of 10 minutes.

There were new power-ups available during the game including (among others) a bubble shield which lets you breather under water and "bounce", and a fire shield which lets you turn into a fireball momentarily.

Positives

The level design and general feel of the gameplay is excellent. If you manage to get through the entire game there is a huge sense of accomplishment, as it is a long and epic journey.

In terms of platform games, this is perhaps my favourite of all time. It's a mix of the slick visuals, fast pace, and interesting mechanics.

Negatives

Compared to Sonic the Hedgehog and Sonic the Hedgehog 2 the music is inferior in every way. The new composer they brought on just didn't have the same knack for creating tunes which you just want to keep listening to forever.

Memorable Moments

I was very excited when I unlocked Hyper Sonic. He was so fast, it was almost too fast. I really like when games contain little "secrets" which once you discover become a really big part of the game. Super Sonic and Hyper Sonic are how the Sonic series does this. Some other examples would be event Pokemon in the Pokemon series and fatalities in the Mortal Kombat series.

Previous Game: Age of Empires Next Game: Portal

****
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
lubu42
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States314 Posts
October 18 2012 00:06 GMT
#2
It's so true about the music not being as good but I remember playing this game as a kid and it is still just as fun today as it was back then. That being said, it makes me sad to see how bad Sonic 4 was :/ They need to keep these side scrolling platformers 2D. Look at Megaman 9 and 10, they are both still 2D but with just enhanced graphics and controls. Such a bummer to see a lot of bad sonic games after playing ones that were so amazing like this one! On a good note, Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations were both very great! :D
SlayerS_BoxeR <3
DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
October 18 2012 00:15 GMT
#3
On October 18 2012 09:06 lubu42 wrote:
It's so true about the music not being as good but I remember playing this game as a kid and it is still just as fun today as it was back then. That being said, it makes me sad to see how bad Sonic 4 was :/ They need to keep these side scrolling platformers 2D. Look at Megaman 9 and 10, they are both still 2D but with just enhanced graphics and controls. Such a bummer to see a lot of bad sonic games after playing ones that were so amazing like this one! On a good note, Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations were both very great! :D

Yes I thought Sonic Generations did a really good job at bringing the genre into the modern gaming era. I didn't mind the "modern sonic" levels so much, and I did like the over-world and how you could take your time and re-do levels to find all the secrets in each one. That was a killer in the original three games; how difficult it was to beat the game let alone win all the bonus stages and obtain the chaos/super emeralds.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
Kitetsu
Profile Joined October 2010
73 Posts
October 18 2012 02:09 GMT
#4
Props for reviewing this game. It was a huge part of my childhood, and I recently played through all the Genesis Sonic games again for fun.

Only thing I disagree with is the music. Granted, this is obviously a matter of opinion. But we're taking about stage themes like: Hydrocity, Marble Garden, Ice Cap (overrated but still), Launch Base, Flying Battery, Lava Reef, Death Egg, and others.

At any rate, in my eyes the only VG music that rivals Sonic 1-3 and S&K are Megaman/Megaman X series.
If you're lonely, you can talk to me.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
October 18 2012 02:30 GMT
#5
but...but..I love the music to sonic3k
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
October 18 2012 02:37 GMT
#6
Sky Sanctuary was just a killer music, and so Death Egg is.

This game as a whole is wonderful, so many ways to play it, with Sonic, Tails, Knuckles. With the emeralds, the super ones. And Sonic Generations was a good reminder of what Sonic was on Genesis, and Dreamcast too. That was a buy I didn't regret a single second. :D

Welp, I'll probably reinstall Sonic & Knuckles, or Generations.
DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
October 18 2012 02:41 GMT
#7
I have to concede that the Sonic 3k music wasn't bad at all... it was rather that it was different to what I'd grown to expect in Sonic 1 and 2 - and obviously with a different composer it came out very different.

I think the previous generations had catchy ballads which focused on a single really clean tune which got stuck in your head... but in Sonic 3k it was more environmental / setting the mood, and wasn't necessarily as memorable. In modern games this is also the case; a lot of the time you never even notice the music, because it's blended so well with the overall experience that it just melds into it. Doesn't mean it was bad music; it was great, rather it just didn't stick in your mind as much.

I can't in my right side say it was better or worse, just different, and not to my taste (as much).
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
October 18 2012 03:20 GMT
#8
sandopolis ghosts were the bane of my 8 year old self.

Easily one of my favorite games of all time. Was unfortunate that I was unable
to play sonic 3 until just recently in the past 1-2 years.
Doom Guy
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 18 2012 03:28 GMT
#9
Loved this game <3
Writerptrk
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
October 18 2012 03:59 GMT
#10
i played this game sooo much when i was little. loved the series: sonic, sonic 2, sonic 3, and sonic/knuckles, and of course the combined sonic 3/knuckles. i had so much fun playing through the levels again and again, looking for secrets, trying to get all the emeralsd, etc.
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
October 18 2012 04:50 GMT
#11
Pretty sure Michael Jackson worked on some of the Sonic 3 tracks? Regardless, Hydrocity A2, Ice Cap and Flying Battery have pretty sweet music.

I could never figure out, as a kid, that annoying bit on Carnival Night where you get stuck in a room with that thing that goes up and down. Never finished Sandopolis back then too. That lion at the end is terrible >.<

I own the Sonic Classic Arcade game for the Nintendo DS, played a good ton out of it. Not a bad buy if you own one. Has the first 4 games including Sonic 2 / 3 with Knuckles.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
October 18 2012 05:00 GMT
#12
On October 18 2012 13:50 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Pretty sure Michael Jackson worked on some of the Sonic 3 tracks? Regardless, Hydrocity A2, Ice Cap and Flying Battery have pretty sweet music.

I could never figure out, as a kid, that annoying bit on Carnival Night where you get stuck in a room with that thing that goes up and down. Never finished Sandopolis back then too. That lion at the end is terrible >.<

I own the Sonic Classic Arcade game for the Nintendo DS, played a good ton out of it. Not a bad buy if you own one. Has the first 4 games including Sonic 2 / 3 with Knuckles.


carnival night thing is easy you have to stand on the thing and hold up then hold down until it gets enough momentum so that when the thing goes down to the save point you just jump out.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
October 18 2012 05:18 GMT
#13
On October 18 2012 14:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 13:50 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Pretty sure Michael Jackson worked on some of the Sonic 3 tracks? Regardless, Hydrocity A2, Ice Cap and Flying Battery have pretty sweet music.

I could never figure out, as a kid, that annoying bit on Carnival Night where you get stuck in a room with that thing that goes up and down. Never finished Sandopolis back then too. That lion at the end is terrible >.<

I own the Sonic Classic Arcade game for the Nintendo DS, played a good ton out of it. Not a bad buy if you own one. Has the first 4 games including Sonic 2 / 3 with Knuckles.


carnival night thing is easy you have to stand on the thing and hold up then hold down until it gets enough momentum so that when the thing goes down to the save point you just jump out.


Oh yeah, figured that out like 10 years later, but omg that hurt my brain sooo much! Not to mention that act is pretty silly on the time (you'd engage the boss at like 9 mins on the clock? crazy!)
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 05:51:34
October 18 2012 05:41 GMT
#14
On October 18 2012 14:18 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 14:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 18 2012 13:50 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Pretty sure Michael Jackson worked on some of the Sonic 3 tracks? Regardless, Hydrocity A2, Ice Cap and Flying Battery have pretty sweet music.

I could never figure out, as a kid, that annoying bit on Carnival Night where you get stuck in a room with that thing that goes up and down. Never finished Sandopolis back then too. That lion at the end is terrible >.<

I own the Sonic Classic Arcade game for the Nintendo DS, played a good ton out of it. Not a bad buy if you own one. Has the first 4 games including Sonic 2 / 3 with Knuckles.


carnival night thing is easy you have to stand on the thing and hold up then hold down until it gets enough momentum so that when the thing goes down to the save point you just jump out.


Oh yeah, figured that out like 10 years later, but omg that hurt my brain sooo much! Not to mention that act is pretty silly on the time (you'd engage the boss at like 9 mins on the clock? crazy!)

rofl yeah, but you can get to all 7 chaos emeralds( the emerald stages are not that hard...maybe except the last one)by the end of marble garden act 1, so unless you didn't that up you can make it to the end of carnival night within 6 mins tops.

Edit: cleaned up.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
October 18 2012 07:15 GMT
#15
I spend so many hours on Sonic 1 & 2 but I never played the 3. Thanks for this little diary
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 18 2012 07:26 GMT
#16
the times I completed Sonic 1-4 are more than any other games,love old sega games than the current stupid ps3/xbox
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
[BSL 2025] Weekly
18:00
#15
ZZZero.O127
LiquipediaDiscussion
Maestros of the Game
12:00
Offline Playoffs - Top 4
Clem vs SerralLIVE!
ComeBackTV 3052
RotterdaM1684
PiGStarcraft879
IndyStarCraft 269
SteadfastSC173
CosmosSc2 161
EnkiAlexander 100
CranKy Ducklings88
3DClanTV 63
Rex58
IntoTheiNu 14
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1684
PiGStarcraft879
IndyStarCraft 269
CosmosSc2 182
SteadfastSC 173
NeuroSwarm 145
UpATreeSC 95
Rex 67
JuggernautJason51
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 958
ZZZero.O 122
sas.Sziky 30
KwarK 12
Dota 2
monkeys_forever274
League of Legends
JimRising 390
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K667
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King48
AZ_Axe33
Other Games
summit1g5530
Grubby3517
fl0m927
Mlord438
ToD250
Sick109
ArmadaUGS83
Trikslyr52
ROOTCatZ20
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1265
gamesdonequick644
BasetradeTV57
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 52
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Adnapsc2 6
• RayReign 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21839
League of Legends
• Doublelift5205
Other Games
• imaqtpie1880
• Scarra626
• Shiphtur195
• tFFMrPink 13
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
11h 54m
BSL Team Wars
20h 54m
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL
23h 24m
Artosis vs Sziky
Afreeca Starleague
1d 11h
Soma vs BeSt
Wardi Open
1d 12h
OSC
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Larva
LiuLi Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Safe House 2
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-25
RSL Revival: Season 2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
EC S1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.