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On April 21 2012 00:17 Pokebunny wrote: I've never heard of either party - why is this stupid drama even on TL? An amateur team of friends and some guy's anger have no place here :/
I agree with your sentiments. I am sorry that everyone here has been subjected to this fiasco.
If we can get this closed, I think that would be better for everyone.
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I am not even sure if this is a troll thread and both parties are in on it for lulz, or if this is serious, and failsafe is still drunk.
The best way to avoid a hangover is to just keep drinkin' :p
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On April 21 2012 02:41 Anacletus wrote: I am not even sure if this is a troll thread and both parties are in on it for lulz, or if this is serious, and failsafe is still drunk.
The best way to avoid a hangover is to just keep drinkin' :p
I can assure you there are no "lulz" in this for leviathan.
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On April 20 2012 19:36 Failsafe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 16:31 Mhodesty wrote: Here is a little back story to this. I am Mhodesty and currently playing for team Leviathan. Recently we recruited a new member, a pretty good terran player, who was friends with Jeff back in the brood war days. So we got all of us together in a skype call and opened up a peepmode session and started to play. Jeff opens up by trying to get onto the team. He stated that he knows for a fact that he is a significantly better player than any of us and that within two months he will be able to beat professional players (he actually said that he would be able to beat Idra if you want to know specifically).
We took him seriously at first too. We explained to him that the way our recruitment works is that we meet the player, if we like them we hang out with them for a few weeks to get to know them a little bit and then we decide if we would like for them to join our team. Apparently Jeff didn't like what he heard...
He then went on to get aggressive with us and insult us over the skype call and creating a completely un-enjoyable environment for all people in the call, so we asked the host to kick him from the call. He decides to leave on his own accord with a "Fuck you guys."
So I am not really sure why he hates us so much, we invited him to play and initially were seriously considering giving him a chance to try out for the team through our previously stated process. He also stated multiple times during the call that he was under the influence of alcohol (and who knows what else), and we told Jeff that if he wanted to come back when he was sober we would be willing to play with him again.
As far as this show match is concerned, there is no positive for us in taking this match, so I personally will not be doing as such. Also, we don't have the computers to stream FP right now, and that's why we aren't streaming all the time, so even if we wanted to accept your "challenge" we couldn't adhere to your demands.
At Leviathan we are an competitive organization competing in playhems, MLGs, and any other tournament we can. That being said, no one here is claiming to be bonjwa. my experience from our skype call is quite different. my impression is that you're a bunch of deceitful, narcissistic clowns who abuse drugs to increase your performance in video games
I'm curious, what kind of drugs make you better as SC? Like caffinee, praxis points; or what?
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On April 20 2012 23:38 posistomp wrote: LevPosistomp here...
The level of confusion is what baffles me most here. Through the entire call I thought you were a hilarious guy with a sarcastic sense of humor, and all of a sudden you become angry and freak out. And what is this about "performance enhancing drugs?" I am "straight edge" for lack of a better term....so much confusion is going through my head right now.
Anyway, we are just four dudes having a good time, playing our best, practicing, and traveling to MLGs, trying to be a part of E sports. I am sorry that you do not perceive us as a legitimate team and didn't have fun on Skype with us. Nobody was trying to be mean, and I was laughing at what I thought were jokes coming from you. I even messaged Mhodesty and I was like "This kid is fucking hilarious, he has a great sense of humor" and then minutes later I learned you were serious the entire time when you left the call angry. I am not sure what you expected when you joined the call... did you expect a bored WoW guildmaster tone where we were talking about build orders? We are 4 close friends who laugh and joke while we practice.
Lastly, if you were the best player in the world, I wouldn't want to showmatch you, or even care if you're better, because the level of hostility you showed us last night was not something we like to be a part of. So if politely declining your challenge makes me or my teammates worthless in your eyes, that is fine by me, because your standards of what matters given your conduct last night are not important to me. Part of why I love Starcraft is that the community has thus far been so kind and welcoming to me and the guys that I play with.
If you want to talk to me so we can clear whatever confusion you have about the Skype call, I added you last night, so you are more than welcome to do so. I feel like most of this was a misunderstanding, but the offensive comments leveled at us as players and at our team are way out of line.
yeah, and i'm dr. jekyll and jesus christ. let's play hoola hoops with our halos.
half your team abuses enough cocaine to kill an elephant and the other half is on enough hash that we could obsolesce the drug war overnight just spreading the wealth.
you've got what are drug-addicted women and men who you treat like slaves, including the girl who was briefly in the call with us, and you, personally, are responsible for several murders.
this teary-eyed, shameless lying is absurd in its transparency. authorities will be alerted concerning your drug trade, human trafficking, and violent crime; as well as your role in subversive electronic and physical terrorist groups that do damage to our societal infrastructure.
your underhanded and condescending tone in this post is significantly less subtle than perhaps you expected, and your snide satire concerning my skill-level is consistent with your adolescent humor and general, unsavory character.
a few decades imprisonment should give you more time to develop subtle anal sex and rape references 'you four dudes', at least if the rumors hold. perhaps if a 'size 11 asshole' is the culmination of your professional career then you'll be more interested in seeing my values recognized. i hope the Starcraft community, and the other communities to which you will be a part show you more leniency than you have to them; there is a certain level of grotesquery that causes most people to cringe.
i don't have your ID on Skype, and i would prefer that you do not contact me. my best wishes to any player on team Leviathan who is not connected to you, Mhodesty, or Ed Rosentul.
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On April 21 2012 03:41 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 19:36 Failsafe wrote:On April 20 2012 16:31 Mhodesty wrote: Here is a little back story to this. I am Mhodesty and currently playing for team Leviathan. Recently we recruited a new member, a pretty good terran player, who was friends with Jeff back in the brood war days. So we got all of us together in a skype call and opened up a peepmode session and started to play. Jeff opens up by trying to get onto the team. He stated that he knows for a fact that he is a significantly better player than any of us and that within two months he will be able to beat professional players (he actually said that he would be able to beat Idra if you want to know specifically).
We took him seriously at first too. We explained to him that the way our recruitment works is that we meet the player, if we like them we hang out with them for a few weeks to get to know them a little bit and then we decide if we would like for them to join our team. Apparently Jeff didn't like what he heard...
He then went on to get aggressive with us and insult us over the skype call and creating a completely un-enjoyable environment for all people in the call, so we asked the host to kick him from the call. He decides to leave on his own accord with a "Fuck you guys."
So I am not really sure why he hates us so much, we invited him to play and initially were seriously considering giving him a chance to try out for the team through our previously stated process. He also stated multiple times during the call that he was under the influence of alcohol (and who knows what else), and we told Jeff that if he wanted to come back when he was sober we would be willing to play with him again.
As far as this show match is concerned, there is no positive for us in taking this match, so I personally will not be doing as such. Also, we don't have the computers to stream FP right now, and that's why we aren't streaming all the time, so even if we wanted to accept your "challenge" we couldn't adhere to your demands.
At Leviathan we are an competitive organization competing in playhems, MLGs, and any other tournament we can. That being said, no one here is claiming to be bonjwa. my experience from our skype call is quite different. my impression is that you're a bunch of deceitful, narcissistic clowns who abuse drugs to increase your performance in video games I'm curious, what kind of drugs make you better as SC? Like caffinee, praxis points; or what?
weed and good will makes games interesting, hash and a willingness to suppress the minds of your opponents can make your average silver leaguer into a master's player in no time. caffeine might see some short term improvements immediately after being imbibed but in the long term it's a bad investment. stimulants can enhance play and game understanding but the long term negative consequences far out weigh any potential short term gains. players using stimulants faced with opponents who abuse hash are at an almost insurmountable disadvantage, although the function of hashish is going to be seeing some changes in the near future, especially concerning those who abuse the hashish with an ill will, using powerful spiritual substances to gain unfair advantages controlling men or women or the results of games. if there were a sort of regulatory commission concerning the use of these substances, and there is, then i think that they will be very interested in improving the societal welfare by altering the consequences to people who use powerful spiritual substances for their personal gain without respect to the well-being of other sentient life.
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On April 21 2012 04:16 Failsafe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 03:41 TheToast wrote:On April 20 2012 19:36 Failsafe wrote:On April 20 2012 16:31 Mhodesty wrote: Here is a little back story to this. I am Mhodesty and currently playing for team Leviathan. Recently we recruited a new member, a pretty good terran player, who was friends with Jeff back in the brood war days. So we got all of us together in a skype call and opened up a peepmode session and started to play. Jeff opens up by trying to get onto the team. He stated that he knows for a fact that he is a significantly better player than any of us and that within two months he will be able to beat professional players (he actually said that he would be able to beat Idra if you want to know specifically).
We took him seriously at first too. We explained to him that the way our recruitment works is that we meet the player, if we like them we hang out with them for a few weeks to get to know them a little bit and then we decide if we would like for them to join our team. Apparently Jeff didn't like what he heard...
He then went on to get aggressive with us and insult us over the skype call and creating a completely un-enjoyable environment for all people in the call, so we asked the host to kick him from the call. He decides to leave on his own accord with a "Fuck you guys."
So I am not really sure why he hates us so much, we invited him to play and initially were seriously considering giving him a chance to try out for the team through our previously stated process. He also stated multiple times during the call that he was under the influence of alcohol (and who knows what else), and we told Jeff that if he wanted to come back when he was sober we would be willing to play with him again.
As far as this show match is concerned, there is no positive for us in taking this match, so I personally will not be doing as such. Also, we don't have the computers to stream FP right now, and that's why we aren't streaming all the time, so even if we wanted to accept your "challenge" we couldn't adhere to your demands.
At Leviathan we are an competitive organization competing in playhems, MLGs, and any other tournament we can. That being said, no one here is claiming to be bonjwa. my experience from our skype call is quite different. my impression is that you're a bunch of deceitful, narcissistic clowns who abuse drugs to increase your performance in video games I'm curious, what kind of drugs make you better as SC? Like caffinee, praxis points; or what? weed and good will makes games interesting, hash and a willingness to suppress the minds of your opponents can make your average silver leaguer into a master's player in no time. caffeine might see some short term improvements immediately after being imbibed but in the long term it's a bad investment. stimulants can enhance play and game understanding but the long term negative consequences far out weigh any potential short term gains. players using stimulants faced with opponents who abuse hash are at an almost insurmountable disadvantage, although the function of hashish is going to be seeing some changes in the near future, especially concerning those who abuse the hashish with an ill will, using powerful spiritual substances to gain unfair advantages controlling men or women or the results of games. if there were a sort of regulatory commission concerning the use of these substances, and there is, then i think that they will be very interested in improving the societal welfare by altering the consequences to people who use powerful spiritual substances for their personal gain without respect to the well-being of other sentient life.
What the fuck are you talking about? O.O
I don't even know how to respond to this. How the hell does hash make you better as Starcraft? Why would stimulants "enhance game understanding"? And what in the world does winning at Starcraft have to do with controlling people?
Honestly, this is not the response of a normal person. You need to let this whole business go, and maybe see about visiting a therapist. Because I think you have some issues that you need to work out.
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This is has evolved from unprecedented accusations that were somewhat feasible to absolute ridiculousness. Mods please close this thread.
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On April 21 2012 04:34 Mhodesty wrote: This is has evolved from unprecedented accusations that were somewhat feasible to absolute ridiculousness. Mods please close this thread.
Yeah this really needs to be closed considering it's almost entirely slander. And on top of that those being slandered are not okay with this cruel prank.
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lol. hasnt been enough drama lately.
On April 21 2012 04:44 Anacletus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 04:34 Mhodesty wrote: This is has evolved from unprecedented accusations that were somewhat feasible to absolute ridiculousness. Mods please close this thread. Yeah this really needs to be closed considering it's almost entirely slander. And on top of that those being slandered are not okay with this cruel prank. you mean libel. slander is spoken.
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Feels like nadota in here.
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GRUDGE MATCH!!!! WHO IS CASTING IT?!?!
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On April 21 2012 05:26 Game wrote: GRUDGE MATCH!!!! WHO IS CASTING IT?!?! no-one. this is not a grudge match, this is more like watching a train wreck.
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So either this grudgematch gets accepted or we're closing the thread
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From the outset I just thought that the OP was being hyperbolically mad for ze lulz, but now I'm starting to doubt the sanity of the OP, and not in a way that would lead to a fun grudge match. Such a shame.
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On April 21 2012 06:07 Pholon wrote: So either this grudgematch gets accepted or we're closing the thread
I'm not saying I have any say on how to run this forum or thread but I say we close this crap ASAP. Just look at the most recent positing of 'failsafe' right above yours... Is this guy trying to be serious or is he simply trolling TL with this shit. Why should the TL community be concerned about the drug abuses from team lev? It doesn't make anysense to challenge them in this method and from the follow up posts you sound like an asshole. There will be no match because TeamLev is correct, how does this better their look if they play it... This guy is off his rocker and is bringing down TL with him. Personally, closing this would be nice but it's obviously not up to me!
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Take your shit to Reddit, they love this drama filled bullshit. I, personally would like to keep TL away from this... but i am just one of the 1000's that view this form and maybe this is enjoyed here.
EDIT: This reminds me of IRC and gotfrag back in the day when counter strike was the "go to" place for kids to think they were the next best thing in the esports scene....
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On April 21 2012 06:53 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 06:07 Pholon wrote: So either this grudgematch gets accepted or we're closing the thread I'm not saying I have any say on how to run this forum or thread but I say we close this crap ASAP. Just look at the most recent positing of 'failsafe' right above yours... Is this guy trying to be serious or is he simply trolling TL with this shit. Why should the TL community be concerned about the drug abuses from team lev? It doesn't make anysense to challenge them in this method and from the follow up posts you sound like an asshole. There will be no match because TeamLev is correct, how does this better their look if they play it... This guy is off his rocker and is bringing down TL with him. Personally, closing this would be nice but it's obviously not up to me!
To be clear, no members of leviathan use any sort of performance enhancing drugs unless you count morning coffee and or tea as "performance enhancing"
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On April 21 2012 07:01 Mhodesty wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 06:53 Shelke14 wrote:On April 21 2012 06:07 Pholon wrote: So either this grudgematch gets accepted or we're closing the thread I'm not saying I have any say on how to run this forum or thread but I say we close this crap ASAP. Just look at the most recent positing of 'failsafe' right above yours... Is this guy trying to be serious or is he simply trolling TL with this shit. Why should the TL community be concerned about the drug abuses from team lev? It doesn't make anysense to challenge them in this method and from the follow up posts you sound like an asshole. There will be no match because TeamLev is correct, how does this better their look if they play it... This guy is off his rocker and is bringing down TL with him. Personally, closing this would be nice but it's obviously not up to me! To be clear, no members of leviathan use any sort of performance enhancing drugs unless you count morning coffee and or tea as "performance enhancing"
As I read his posts it is becoming clear you guys probably don't. (It really doesn't matter if you do either). The mind of the OP is clearly not realistic by any means and is most likely channeling this against Team Lev in the hopes of ruining your community 'Cred'. Just delete this thread and lets forget about it.
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