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[Challenge] $100 Challenge to Team Leviathan

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Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
April 20 2012 06:23 GMT
#1
I have been practicing Starcraft II about 2 weeks now (from 6 month break). My belief is that Team Leviathan is a sponsored Starcraft II team, and I am annoyed by their arrogance and unkind demeanor. I challenge them to up to 3 best of 5 matches. I wish to show that they are not at all good or worthy of sponsorship, and that on the contrary they are a bunch of narcissistic nerds who are neither sincere about Starcraft, nor skillful players; nor are they respectful beings (I expect this latter claim to be evinced by their behavior). The first player to defeat me will receive $100 via Paypal.

If this is blog material, please move to blogs.

Jeffrey Haynes
tell your starcraft team that i'll play up to 3 players in bo5, and paypal $100 to the first one to beat in me

Jeffrey Haynes match date a week from now, no observers, mutually streamed

Jeffrey Haynes since everyone on 'leviathan' uses map hacks and performance enhancing substances

Jeffrey Haynes i can't do much about the substances but i'd like any of the team members who is willing to play me to stream live from their computer so that their FP-view can be seen

Jeffrey Haynes my other requirements are no smurfs, don't recruit anyone outside of the team's current roster to play

Jeffrey Haynes i will have people to determine whether there are smurfs and i'll record the replays

Jeffrey Haynes if there are any smurfs then the money is forfeit

Jeffrey Haynes i reserve the right to choose one commentator of my choice to commentate the match

Jeffrey Haynes because i'm the one paying if i should lose

Jeffrey Haynes also, if any player should beat me i require a replay pack from that player of the player's previous games dating at least a month previous to compare and determine that the player is in fact the same player (and that i am not losing to a smurf who is not currently on team leviathan)

Jeffrey Haynes i will not be using any substances when i participate in this competition, and in the spirit of good sportmanship i request that any player on team leviathan who opts to play me be willing to do the same, however, there is no way to enforce this regulation but so long as my requirement of mutual livestream is followed i am willing to take it on good faith that leviathan is not dependent on performance enhancing substances and is in fact capable of playing Starcraft II with the degree of skill that their current arrogance suggests
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
April 20 2012 06:34 GMT
#2
Ooh, this looks like it'll be fun, Starcraft 2 has been lacking in the good grudge match department for awhile, we gotta get Day9 casting this!
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Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 06:38:29
April 20 2012 06:37 GMT
#3
Interesting. Be sure to have a neutral party agreed upon by both sides to determine whether or not, in the case that you lose, the money is forfeit or not. You can't be the person to decide that.
Unhallowed
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada171 Posts
April 20 2012 06:42 GMT
#4
Jeffrey Haynes http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/depts/lgir/gir/staff/professor-jeffrey-haynes.cfm
What is evil but good tortured by it's own hunger and thirst?
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
April 20 2012 06:43 GMT
#5
Failsafe, I love your posts in the high thread
I hope you smash these apparent BMers!!
Team failsafe. Update OP with date and times if they accept!
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
April 20 2012 06:54 GMT
#6
lol Jeff
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 20 2012 07:11 GMT
#7
I'm confused. Need more backstory and who the hell Jeffrey Haynes is.
Rainbow Cuddles
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 07:25:09
April 20 2012 07:24 GMT
#8
Oh lordy. Not sure if like. Is there any background information?
Mhodesty
Profile Joined May 2011
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 07:36:03
April 20 2012 07:31 GMT
#9
Here is a little back story to this. I am Mhodesty and currently playing for team Leviathan. Recently we recruited a new member, a pretty good terran player, who was friends with Jeff back in the brood war days. So we got all of us together in a skype call and opened up a peepmode session and started to play. Jeff opens up by trying to get onto the team. He stated that he knows for a fact that he is a significantly better player than any of us and that within two months he will be able to beat professional players (he actually said that he would be able to beat Idra if you want to know specifically).

We took him seriously at first too. We explained to him that the way our recruitment works is that we meet the player, if we like them we hang out with them for a few weeks to get to know them a little bit and then we decide if we would like for them to join our team. Apparently Jeff didn't like what he heard...

He then went on to get aggressive with us and insult us over the skype call and creating a completely un-enjoyable environment for all people in the call, so we asked the host to kick him from the call. He decides to leave on his own accord with a "Fuck you guys."

So I am not really sure why he hates us so much, we invited him to play and initially were seriously considering giving him a chance to try out for the team through our previously stated process. He also stated multiple times during the call that he was under the influence of alcohol (and who knows what else), and we told Jeff that if he wanted to come back when he was sober we would be willing to play with him again.

As far as this show match is concerned, there is no positive for us in taking this match, so I personally will not be doing as such. Also, we don't have the computers to stream FP right now, and that's why we aren't streaming all the time, so even if we wanted to accept your "challenge" we couldn't adhere to your demands.

At Leviathan we are an competitive organization competing in playhems, MLGs, and any other tournament we can. That being said, no one here is claiming to be bonjwa.
Follow myself at @Mhodesty :) <3
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 07:35:10
April 20 2012 07:33 GMT
#10
Jeffrey Haynes what's going on here? What's "Team Leviathan" (and why should we care :/)?
Jeffrey Haynes at least clean up the OP a bit so it's not some random chat logs
sMi.SyMPhOnY
Profile Joined December 2006
United States226 Posts
April 20 2012 07:36 GMT
#11
hmm maybe i sohuldnt have invited him to practice...
:)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 07:45:36
April 20 2012 07:44 GMT
#12
This seems so pointless, no screenshots, no evidence nothing. This is you holding a personal grudge about a team not many people know about and with little to go on to behold your claims.

Even if they were sponsored and by your personal perspective, you dictate that they are, somehow, narcisstic/BM, etc. How is it your obligation or even your duty to not only call them out, but to discredit them from a sponsor they've earned or personally achieved.

You're seeking trouble, but you're not putting up much to show. The showmatch is a sham because it's neither on friendly terms nor really agreed by both parties as mutually rewarding. Talk about shoving a spotlight under yourself. The money isn't worth the challenge nor enable your call as acknowledgement that they're remotely true.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
dearyuna
Profile Joined December 2011
United States322 Posts
April 20 2012 07:46 GMT
#13
This guy is obviously drunk or high or something.
Leviathan is a respectable team and I know MHodesty personally, and he's really hardworking and genuinely nice. He's also supportive, and from what I recall he's going to be/currently is the captain of a CSL team.
There's no reason to bash a team and calling them out on a thread without any evidence of bad mannerism when you can settle things personally.
Ridiculous BM and other readers should note that these claims are falsely based.
@dearyuna Team SCV Life <3
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
April 20 2012 10:36 GMT
#14
On April 20 2012 16:31 Mhodesty wrote:
Here is a little back story to this. I am Mhodesty and currently playing for team Leviathan. Recently we recruited a new member, a pretty good terran player, who was friends with Jeff back in the brood war days. So we got all of us together in a skype call and opened up a peepmode session and started to play. Jeff opens up by trying to get onto the team. He stated that he knows for a fact that he is a significantly better player than any of us and that within two months he will be able to beat professional players (he actually said that he would be able to beat Idra if you want to know specifically).

We took him seriously at first too. We explained to him that the way our recruitment works is that we meet the player, if we like them we hang out with them for a few weeks to get to know them a little bit and then we decide if we would like for them to join our team. Apparently Jeff didn't like what he heard...

He then went on to get aggressive with us and insult us over the skype call and creating a completely un-enjoyable environment for all people in the call, so we asked the host to kick him from the call. He decides to leave on his own accord with a "Fuck you guys."

So I am not really sure why he hates us so much, we invited him to play and initially were seriously considering giving him a chance to try out for the team through our previously stated process. He also stated multiple times during the call that he was under the influence of alcohol (and who knows what else), and we told Jeff that if he wanted to come back when he was sober we would be willing to play with him again.

As far as this show match is concerned, there is no positive for us in taking this match, so I personally will not be doing as such. Also, we don't have the computers to stream FP right now, and that's why we aren't streaming all the time, so even if we wanted to accept your "challenge" we couldn't adhere to your demands.

At Leviathan we are an competitive organization competing in playhems, MLGs, and any other tournament we can. That being said, no one here is claiming to be bonjwa.


my experience from our skype call is quite different. my impression is that you're a bunch of deceitful, narcissistic clowns who abuse drugs to increase your performance in video games and rely on a chaotic nonsensical style of confusing mockery to antagonize other people. there was no substance to your team's dialogue except that it sounded like a rehearsed antagonistic concert that you've probably put on multiple times before and probably to great negative effect on other people.

when i heard that Aidan consistently beat your 5-0+ it was obvious that your team is not near my skill level (me having invested far more time in SC2 than Aidan and also having better results). anyway don't paint this picture i arrived pandering to your team because i had some high opinion of your team quality. just the opposite, it sounded like your team had a lot of money and a lot less skill, and so if you are in fact a sponsored team with available funds to sponsor players to tournaments MLG then it was in my best interest to apply and represent an otherwise unskilled team (because i am sure that your team would act in its own best interest sending me if i was indeed the best player -- and i can say with certainty that i would be).

i'm not sure why you automatically doubt my claims that i could beat professional players; was it something in my demeanor, or my declared unwillingness to abuse performance-enhancing substances to improve my play? obviously it's been quite some time since i played a video game competitively, but at least while i was playing competitively i had respectable results against famous players, (Artosis, LzGamer, Day[9], Idra, HuK, Assem, Dimaga, NonY). it's true that wrist problems probably ended my professional career prematurely and prevented me reaching the level that i otherwise would have displayed, but to be sure i could at least keep pace with players who regarded to be quite skilled.

i don't think the influence of substances weighs heavily on my decisions or that there was any bias in my behavior until it was clear that your team was openly hostile and more a team of well-rehearsed clowns than anything like serious sportsman with an interest in Starcraft. i'm not sure what you mean when you say that i hate you. my motivations were purely business, that is, i saw an opportunity to benefit both myself and your team by bringing superior skill to a financial organization, and i thought you would have no objection to that. to my knowledge i have no history with any of your players, nor are any of the players on your team famous enough to have caught my attention with their performance at previous events. i suspect a great deal of your sponsorship is probably obtained under the guise of being more skillful or enjoying more renown than is true of any player on your team.

i think you've done nothing but slander me and painted quite the false image of our interaction, and of course i am not surprised. while it's true that i left with the words 'fuck you', it's unfair to say that the words unwarranted. i recall the preceding sentence from your player with the annoyingly high-pitched nasal voice was 'I am going to watch Aidan beat you, and then I'm going to laugh and kick you from this call.' to that i think 'fuck you' is the appropriate response. your team has neither the professional conduct or the skill to achieve anything in Starcraft 2, and i hope that by issuing this challenge and your ensuing refusal that i can save your sponsors money and perhaps illustrate to other sponsored teams that i am a serious contender willing to put effort into my work.

i have no interest joining your team and i'm not surprised that you backed down from a challenge that gives you great odds at $100 with no negative consequences if you were to lose. i think it's a given that no one on your team is a 'bonjwa' since you don't even have a player on the featured streams listed, much less ever placed in GSL, MLG, NASL, TSL, IPL, or any other respected tournament.
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
conquerchimp
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands64 Posts
April 20 2012 11:28 GMT
#15
to my suprise i have never heard of team leviathan so you can already guess i have never heard of their *cheating* although if you will play this match please update ur post with a stream link i'd love to watch the stream. Goodluck!
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
April 20 2012 13:12 GMT
#16
Failsafe sounds like a huge douchebag. I don't care if he was MVP level I wouldn't want to hang out or play with him either.
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posistomp
Profile Joined November 2010
9 Posts
April 20 2012 14:38 GMT
#17
LevPosistomp here...

The level of confusion is what baffles me most here. Through the entire call I thought you were a hilarious guy with a sarcastic sense of humor, and all of a sudden you become angry and freak out. And what is this about "performance enhancing drugs?" I am "straight edge" for lack of a better term....so much confusion is going through my head right now.

Anyway, we are just four dudes having a good time, playing our best, practicing, and traveling to MLGs, trying to be a part of E sports. I am sorry that you do not perceive us as a legitimate team and didn't have fun on Skype with us. Nobody was trying to be mean, and I was laughing at what I thought were jokes coming from you. I even messaged Mhodesty and I was like "This kid is fucking hilarious, he has a great sense of humor" and then minutes later I learned you were serious the entire time when you left the call angry. I am not sure what you expected when you joined the call... did you expect a bored WoW guildmaster tone where we were talking about build orders? We are 4 close friends who laugh and joke while we practice.

Lastly, if you were the best player in the world, I wouldn't want to showmatch you, or even care if you're better, because the level of hostility you showed us last night was not something we like to be a part of. So if politely declining your challenge makes me or my teammates worthless in your eyes, that is fine by me, because your standards of what matters given your conduct last night are not important to me. Part of why I love Starcraft is that the community has thus far been so kind and welcoming to me and the guys that I play with.

If you want to talk to me so we can clear whatever confusion you have about the Skype call, I added you last night, so you are more than welcome to do so. I feel like most of this was a misunderstanding, but the offensive comments leveled at us as players and at our team are way out of line.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 20 2012 15:17 GMT
#18
I've never heard of either party - why is this stupid drama even on TL? An amateur team of friends and some guy's anger have no place here :/
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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
April 20 2012 15:19 GMT
#19
So essentially Failsafe is just namedropping people he has won against and talking shit about people he thinks he can beat? =/ And where exactly did the use of performance enhancing drugs come from, anyway? This whole thing sounds pretty silly to me, unless I completely missed a key aspect somewhere.
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dearyuna
Profile Joined December 2011
United States322 Posts
April 20 2012 15:56 GMT
#20
Would just like to say that the way that Failsafe conducts himself here compared to the members of Leviathan reflects upon his mannerism.

A mod should really close this thread, this is ridiculous.
@dearyuna Team SCV Life <3
posistomp
Profile Joined November 2010
9 Posts
April 20 2012 16:17 GMT
#21
On April 21 2012 00:17 Pokebunny wrote:
I've never heard of either party - why is this stupid drama even on TL? An amateur team of friends and some guy's anger have no place here :/


I agree with your sentiments. I am sorry that everyone here has been subjected to this fiasco.

If we can get this closed, I think that would be better for everyone.
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
April 20 2012 17:41 GMT
#22
I am not even sure if this is a troll thread and both parties are in on it for lulz, or if this is serious, and failsafe is still drunk.

The best way to avoid a hangover is to just keep drinkin' :p
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Mhodesty
Profile Joined May 2011
United States13 Posts
April 20 2012 17:53 GMT
#23
On April 21 2012 02:41 Anacletus wrote:
I am not even sure if this is a troll thread and both parties are in on it for lulz, or if this is serious, and failsafe is still drunk.

The best way to avoid a hangover is to just keep drinkin' :p



I can assure you there are no "lulz" in this for leviathan.
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
April 20 2012 18:41 GMT
#24
On April 20 2012 19:36 Failsafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 16:31 Mhodesty wrote:
Here is a little back story to this. I am Mhodesty and currently playing for team Leviathan. Recently we recruited a new member, a pretty good terran player, who was friends with Jeff back in the brood war days. So we got all of us together in a skype call and opened up a peepmode session and started to play. Jeff opens up by trying to get onto the team. He stated that he knows for a fact that he is a significantly better player than any of us and that within two months he will be able to beat professional players (he actually said that he would be able to beat Idra if you want to know specifically).

We took him seriously at first too. We explained to him that the way our recruitment works is that we meet the player, if we like them we hang out with them for a few weeks to get to know them a little bit and then we decide if we would like for them to join our team. Apparently Jeff didn't like what he heard...

He then went on to get aggressive with us and insult us over the skype call and creating a completely un-enjoyable environment for all people in the call, so we asked the host to kick him from the call. He decides to leave on his own accord with a "Fuck you guys."

So I am not really sure why he hates us so much, we invited him to play and initially were seriously considering giving him a chance to try out for the team through our previously stated process. He also stated multiple times during the call that he was under the influence of alcohol (and who knows what else), and we told Jeff that if he wanted to come back when he was sober we would be willing to play with him again.

As far as this show match is concerned, there is no positive for us in taking this match, so I personally will not be doing as such. Also, we don't have the computers to stream FP right now, and that's why we aren't streaming all the time, so even if we wanted to accept your "challenge" we couldn't adhere to your demands.

At Leviathan we are an competitive organization competing in playhems, MLGs, and any other tournament we can. That being said, no one here is claiming to be bonjwa.


my experience from our skype call is quite different. my impression is that you're a bunch of deceitful, narcissistic clowns who abuse drugs to increase your performance in video games


I'm curious, what kind of drugs make you better as SC? Like caffinee, praxis points; or what?
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Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
April 20 2012 19:10 GMT
#25
On April 20 2012 23:38 posistomp wrote:
LevPosistomp here...

The level of confusion is what baffles me most here. Through the entire call I thought you were a hilarious guy with a sarcastic sense of humor, and all of a sudden you become angry and freak out. And what is this about "performance enhancing drugs?" I am "straight edge" for lack of a better term....so much confusion is going through my head right now.

Anyway, we are just four dudes having a good time, playing our best, practicing, and traveling to MLGs, trying to be a part of E sports. I am sorry that you do not perceive us as a legitimate team and didn't have fun on Skype with us. Nobody was trying to be mean, and I was laughing at what I thought were jokes coming from you. I even messaged Mhodesty and I was like "This kid is fucking hilarious, he has a great sense of humor" and then minutes later I learned you were serious the entire time when you left the call angry. I am not sure what you expected when you joined the call... did you expect a bored WoW guildmaster tone where we were talking about build orders? We are 4 close friends who laugh and joke while we practice.

Lastly, if you were the best player in the world, I wouldn't want to showmatch you, or even care if you're better, because the level of hostility you showed us last night was not something we like to be a part of. So if politely declining your challenge makes me or my teammates worthless in your eyes, that is fine by me, because your standards of what matters given your conduct last night are not important to me. Part of why I love Starcraft is that the community has thus far been so kind and welcoming to me and the guys that I play with.

If you want to talk to me so we can clear whatever confusion you have about the Skype call, I added you last night, so you are more than welcome to do so. I feel like most of this was a misunderstanding, but the offensive comments leveled at us as players and at our team are way out of line.


yeah, and i'm dr. jekyll and jesus christ. let's play hoola hoops with our halos.

half your team abuses enough cocaine to kill an elephant and the other half is on enough hash that we could obsolesce the drug war overnight just spreading the wealth.

you've got what are drug-addicted women and men who you treat like slaves, including the girl who was briefly in the call with us, and you, personally, are responsible for several murders.

this teary-eyed, shameless lying is absurd in its transparency. authorities will be alerted concerning your drug trade, human trafficking, and violent crime; as well as your role in subversive electronic and physical terrorist groups that do damage to our societal infrastructure.

your underhanded and condescending tone in this post is significantly less subtle than perhaps you expected, and your snide satire concerning my skill-level is consistent with your adolescent humor and general, unsavory character.

a few decades imprisonment should give you more time to develop subtle anal sex and rape references 'you four dudes', at least if the rumors hold. perhaps if a 'size 11 asshole' is the culmination of your professional career then you'll be more interested in seeing my values recognized. i hope the Starcraft community, and the other communities to which you will be a part show you more leniency than you have to them; there is a certain level of grotesquery that causes most people to cringe.

i don't have your ID on Skype, and i would prefer that you do not contact me. my best wishes to any player on team Leviathan who is not connected to you, Mhodesty, or Ed Rosentul.

User was banned for this post.
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Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
April 20 2012 19:16 GMT
#26
On April 21 2012 03:41 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 19:36 Failsafe wrote:
On April 20 2012 16:31 Mhodesty wrote:
Here is a little back story to this. I am Mhodesty and currently playing for team Leviathan. Recently we recruited a new member, a pretty good terran player, who was friends with Jeff back in the brood war days. So we got all of us together in a skype call and opened up a peepmode session and started to play. Jeff opens up by trying to get onto the team. He stated that he knows for a fact that he is a significantly better player than any of us and that within two months he will be able to beat professional players (he actually said that he would be able to beat Idra if you want to know specifically).

We took him seriously at first too. We explained to him that the way our recruitment works is that we meet the player, if we like them we hang out with them for a few weeks to get to know them a little bit and then we decide if we would like for them to join our team. Apparently Jeff didn't like what he heard...

He then went on to get aggressive with us and insult us over the skype call and creating a completely un-enjoyable environment for all people in the call, so we asked the host to kick him from the call. He decides to leave on his own accord with a "Fuck you guys."

So I am not really sure why he hates us so much, we invited him to play and initially were seriously considering giving him a chance to try out for the team through our previously stated process. He also stated multiple times during the call that he was under the influence of alcohol (and who knows what else), and we told Jeff that if he wanted to come back when he was sober we would be willing to play with him again.

As far as this show match is concerned, there is no positive for us in taking this match, so I personally will not be doing as such. Also, we don't have the computers to stream FP right now, and that's why we aren't streaming all the time, so even if we wanted to accept your "challenge" we couldn't adhere to your demands.

At Leviathan we are an competitive organization competing in playhems, MLGs, and any other tournament we can. That being said, no one here is claiming to be bonjwa.


my experience from our skype call is quite different. my impression is that you're a bunch of deceitful, narcissistic clowns who abuse drugs to increase your performance in video games


I'm curious, what kind of drugs make you better as SC? Like caffinee, praxis points; or what?


weed and good will makes games interesting, hash and a willingness to suppress the minds of your opponents can make your average silver leaguer into a master's player in no time. caffeine might see some short term improvements immediately after being imbibed but in the long term it's a bad investment. stimulants can enhance play and game understanding but the long term negative consequences far out weigh any potential short term gains. players using stimulants faced with opponents who abuse hash are at an almost insurmountable disadvantage, although the function of hashish is going to be seeing some changes in the near future, especially concerning those who abuse the hashish with an ill will, using powerful spiritual substances to gain unfair advantages controlling men or women or the results of games. if there were a sort of regulatory commission concerning the use of these substances, and there is, then i think that they will be very interested in improving the societal welfare by altering the consequences to people who use powerful spiritual substances for their personal gain without respect to the well-being of other sentient life.
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
April 20 2012 19:33 GMT
#27
On April 21 2012 04:16 Failsafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 03:41 TheToast wrote:
On April 20 2012 19:36 Failsafe wrote:
On April 20 2012 16:31 Mhodesty wrote:
Here is a little back story to this. I am Mhodesty and currently playing for team Leviathan. Recently we recruited a new member, a pretty good terran player, who was friends with Jeff back in the brood war days. So we got all of us together in a skype call and opened up a peepmode session and started to play. Jeff opens up by trying to get onto the team. He stated that he knows for a fact that he is a significantly better player than any of us and that within two months he will be able to beat professional players (he actually said that he would be able to beat Idra if you want to know specifically).

We took him seriously at first too. We explained to him that the way our recruitment works is that we meet the player, if we like them we hang out with them for a few weeks to get to know them a little bit and then we decide if we would like for them to join our team. Apparently Jeff didn't like what he heard...

He then went on to get aggressive with us and insult us over the skype call and creating a completely un-enjoyable environment for all people in the call, so we asked the host to kick him from the call. He decides to leave on his own accord with a "Fuck you guys."

So I am not really sure why he hates us so much, we invited him to play and initially were seriously considering giving him a chance to try out for the team through our previously stated process. He also stated multiple times during the call that he was under the influence of alcohol (and who knows what else), and we told Jeff that if he wanted to come back when he was sober we would be willing to play with him again.

As far as this show match is concerned, there is no positive for us in taking this match, so I personally will not be doing as such. Also, we don't have the computers to stream FP right now, and that's why we aren't streaming all the time, so even if we wanted to accept your "challenge" we couldn't adhere to your demands.

At Leviathan we are an competitive organization competing in playhems, MLGs, and any other tournament we can. That being said, no one here is claiming to be bonjwa.


my experience from our skype call is quite different. my impression is that you're a bunch of deceitful, narcissistic clowns who abuse drugs to increase your performance in video games


I'm curious, what kind of drugs make you better as SC? Like caffinee, praxis points; or what?


weed and good will makes games interesting, hash and a willingness to suppress the minds of your opponents can make your average silver leaguer into a master's player in no time. caffeine might see some short term improvements immediately after being imbibed but in the long term it's a bad investment. stimulants can enhance play and game understanding but the long term negative consequences far out weigh any potential short term gains. players using stimulants faced with opponents who abuse hash are at an almost insurmountable disadvantage, although the function of hashish is going to be seeing some changes in the near future, especially concerning those who abuse the hashish with an ill will, using powerful spiritual substances to gain unfair advantages controlling men or women or the results of games. if there were a sort of regulatory commission concerning the use of these substances, and there is, then i think that they will be very interested in improving the societal welfare by altering the consequences to people who use powerful spiritual substances for their personal gain without respect to the well-being of other sentient life.


What the fuck are you talking about? O.O

I don't even know how to respond to this. How the hell does hash make you better as Starcraft? Why would stimulants "enhance game understanding"? And what in the world does winning at Starcraft have to do with controlling people?

Honestly, this is not the response of a normal person. You need to let this whole business go, and maybe see about visiting a therapist. Because I think you have some issues that you need to work out.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Mhodesty
Profile Joined May 2011
United States13 Posts
April 20 2012 19:34 GMT
#28
This is has evolved from unprecedented accusations that were somewhat feasible to absolute ridiculousness. Mods please close this thread.
Follow myself at @Mhodesty :) <3
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
April 20 2012 19:44 GMT
#29
On April 21 2012 04:34 Mhodesty wrote:
This is has evolved from unprecedented accusations that were somewhat feasible to absolute ridiculousness. Mods please close this thread.


Yeah this really needs to be closed considering it's almost entirely slander. And on top of that those being slandered are not okay with this cruel prank.
http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com/
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 19:50:43
April 20 2012 19:50 GMT
#30
lol. hasnt been enough drama lately.

On April 21 2012 04:44 Anacletus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 04:34 Mhodesty wrote:
This is has evolved from unprecedented accusations that were somewhat feasible to absolute ridiculousness. Mods please close this thread.


Yeah this really needs to be closed considering it's almost entirely slander. And on top of that those being slandered are not okay with this cruel prank.

you mean libel. slander is spoken.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
April 20 2012 19:58 GMT
#31
Feels like nadota in here.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
April 20 2012 20:26 GMT
#32
GRUDGE MATCH!!!! WHO IS CASTING IT?!?!
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
April 20 2012 20:37 GMT
#33
On April 21 2012 05:26 Game wrote:
GRUDGE MATCH!!!! WHO IS CASTING IT?!?!

no-one. this is not a grudge match, this is more like watching a train wreck.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
April 20 2012 21:07 GMT
#34
So either this grudgematch gets accepted or we're closing the thread
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
dtGrizzly
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1 Post
April 20 2012 21:11 GMT
#35
as serious as this all is, I can't help but be entertained by all of it.

Don't delete the thread please!
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 21:44:45
April 20 2012 21:44 GMT
#36
From the outset I just thought that the OP was being hyperbolically mad for ze lulz, but now I'm starting to doubt the sanity of the OP, and not in a way that would lead to a fun grudge match. Such a shame.
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Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 21:53:37
April 20 2012 21:53 GMT
#37
On April 21 2012 06:07 Pholon wrote:
So either this grudgematch gets accepted or we're closing the thread



I'm not saying I have any say on how to run this forum or thread but I say we close this crap ASAP. Just look at the most recent positing of 'failsafe' right above yours... Is this guy trying to be serious or is he simply trolling TL with this shit. Why should the TL community be concerned about the drug abuses from team lev? It doesn't make anysense to challenge them in this method and from the follow up posts you sound like an asshole. There will be no match because TeamLev is correct, how does this better their look if they play it... This guy is off his rocker and is bringing down TL with him. Personally, closing this would be nice but it's obviously not up to me!
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 21:57:37
April 20 2012 21:56 GMT
#38
Take your shit to Reddit, they love this drama filled bullshit. I, personally would like to keep TL away from this... but i am just one of the 1000's that view this form and maybe this is enjoyed here.

EDIT: This reminds me of IRC and gotfrag back in the day when counter strike was the "go to" place for kids to think they were the next best thing in the esports scene....
Mhodesty
Profile Joined May 2011
United States13 Posts
April 20 2012 22:01 GMT
#39
On April 21 2012 06:53 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 06:07 Pholon wrote:
So either this grudgematch gets accepted or we're closing the thread



I'm not saying I have any say on how to run this forum or thread but I say we close this crap ASAP. Just look at the most recent positing of 'failsafe' right above yours... Is this guy trying to be serious or is he simply trolling TL with this shit. Why should the TL community be concerned about the drug abuses from team lev? It doesn't make anysense to challenge them in this method and from the follow up posts you sound like an asshole. There will be no match because TeamLev is correct, how does this better their look if they play it... This guy is off his rocker and is bringing down TL with him. Personally, closing this would be nice but it's obviously not up to me!



To be clear, no members of leviathan use any sort of performance enhancing drugs unless you count morning coffee and or tea as "performance enhancing"
Follow myself at @Mhodesty :) <3
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
April 20 2012 22:05 GMT
#40
On April 21 2012 07:01 Mhodesty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 06:53 Shelke14 wrote:
On April 21 2012 06:07 Pholon wrote:
So either this grudgematch gets accepted or we're closing the thread



I'm not saying I have any say on how to run this forum or thread but I say we close this crap ASAP. Just look at the most recent positing of 'failsafe' right above yours... Is this guy trying to be serious or is he simply trolling TL with this shit. Why should the TL community be concerned about the drug abuses from team lev? It doesn't make anysense to challenge them in this method and from the follow up posts you sound like an asshole. There will be no match because TeamLev is correct, how does this better their look if they play it... This guy is off his rocker and is bringing down TL with him. Personally, closing this would be nice but it's obviously not up to me!



To be clear, no members of leviathan use any sort of performance enhancing drugs unless you count morning coffee and or tea as "performance enhancing"



As I read his posts it is becoming clear you guys probably don't. (It really doesn't matter if you do either). The mind of the OP is clearly not realistic by any means and is most likely channeling this against Team Lev in the hopes of ruining your community 'Cred'. Just delete this thread and lets forget about it.
Mhodesty
Profile Joined May 2011
United States13 Posts
April 20 2012 22:09 GMT
#41
On April 21 2012 07:05 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 07:01 Mhodesty wrote:
On April 21 2012 06:53 Shelke14 wrote:
On April 21 2012 06:07 Pholon wrote:
So either this grudgematch gets accepted or we're closing the thread



I'm not saying I have any say on how to run this forum or thread but I say we close this crap ASAP. Just look at the most recent positing of 'failsafe' right above yours... Is this guy trying to be serious or is he simply trolling TL with this shit. Why should the TL community be concerned about the drug abuses from team lev? It doesn't make anysense to challenge them in this method and from the follow up posts you sound like an asshole. There will be no match because TeamLev is correct, how does this better their look if they play it... This guy is off his rocker and is bringing down TL with him. Personally, closing this would be nice but it's obviously not up to me!



To be clear, no members of leviathan use any sort of performance enhancing drugs unless you count morning coffee and or tea as "performance enhancing"



As I read his posts it is becoming clear you guys probably don't. (It really doesn't matter if you do either). The mind of the OP is clearly not realistic by any means and is most likely channeling this against Team Lev in the hopes of ruining your community 'Cred'. Just delete this thread and lets forget about it.



I agree. We will not be accepting the "challenge" and now consider the matter closed and would like this thread deleted. Thanks to everyone who is acting reasonable on this thread. Please continue to support us here at Leviathan
Follow myself at @Mhodesty :) <3
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
April 20 2012 22:21 GMT
#42
On April 21 2012 07:01 Mhodesty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 06:53 Shelke14 wrote:
On April 21 2012 06:07 Pholon wrote:
So either this grudgematch gets accepted or we're closing the thread



I'm not saying I have any say on how to run this forum or thread but I say we close this crap ASAP. Just look at the most recent positing of 'failsafe' right above yours... Is this guy trying to be serious or is he simply trolling TL with this shit. Why should the TL community be concerned about the drug abuses from team lev? It doesn't make anysense to challenge them in this method and from the follow up posts you sound like an asshole. There will be no match because TeamLev is correct, how does this better their look if they play it... This guy is off his rocker and is bringing down TL with him. Personally, closing this would be nice but it's obviously not up to me!



To be clear, no members of leviathan use any sort of performance enhancing drugs unless you count morning coffee and or tea as "performance enhancing"


The truth comes out!

Someone message failsafe that one of his insane theories was actually correct!
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
April 21 2012 00:56 GMT
#43
On April 21 2012 07:09 Mhodesty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 07:05 Shelke14 wrote:
On April 21 2012 07:01 Mhodesty wrote:
On April 21 2012 06:53 Shelke14 wrote:
On April 21 2012 06:07 Pholon wrote:
So either this grudgematch gets accepted or we're closing the thread



I'm not saying I have any say on how to run this forum or thread but I say we close this crap ASAP. Just look at the most recent positing of 'failsafe' right above yours... Is this guy trying to be serious or is he simply trolling TL with this shit. Why should the TL community be concerned about the drug abuses from team lev? It doesn't make anysense to challenge them in this method and from the follow up posts you sound like an asshole. There will be no match because TeamLev is correct, how does this better their look if they play it... This guy is off his rocker and is bringing down TL with him. Personally, closing this would be nice but it's obviously not up to me!



To be clear, no members of leviathan use any sort of performance enhancing drugs unless you count morning coffee and or tea as "performance enhancing"



As I read his posts it is becoming clear you guys probably don't. (It really doesn't matter if you do either). The mind of the OP is clearly not realistic by any means and is most likely channeling this against Team Lev in the hopes of ruining your community 'Cred'. Just delete this thread and lets forget about it.



I agree. We will not be accepting the "challenge" and now consider the matter closed and would like this thread deleted. Thanks to everyone who is acting reasonable on this thread. Please continue to support us here at Leviathan


Lol I don't think any of us seriously believed you did. I'm still not sure that there's such a thing as a drug that would make you good as SC heh.

You guys should post more and be more active on TL, you might be able to get some more name recognition and following in the scene. I know people on TL are always willing to cheer for community members.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
April 21 2012 01:34 GMT
#44
I am willing to back Jeff's claims with double his wager to any who accept his challenge. My faith is placed in the determination of an iron willed warrior.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 02:48:49
April 21 2012 02:33 GMT
#45
holy shit you guys invoked the wraith of failsafe, no amount of praying would save you guys now. Your only hope is that he aggravated his carpol tunnel during practice and unable to play.

PS. come back sMi for good old times, we are still kicking
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
April 21 2012 04:32 GMT
#46
On April 21 2012 11:33 rei wrote:
holy shit you guys invoked the wraith of failsafe, no amount of praying would save you guys now. Your only hope is that he aggravated his carpol tunnel during practice and unable to play.

PS. come back sMi for good old times, we are still kicking


I try to go on the site like once a month, but it's so ungodly slow that I give up.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
DirtyBirD
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States239 Posts
April 21 2012 07:18 GMT
#47
I think Jeff's posts on here are the best thing I've read on TL since Rekrul's "Foreigners Suck" series. Seriously, <3 Jeff.
sMi.DirtyBirD
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
April 21 2012 17:30 GMT
#48
funny how rev guy says they have nothing to gain, besides the $100 and tonight's doubling of that 100, you guys also gain reputation for doing the show match, and beating someone who came into sc2 late and became instant Rank1 GM within few weeks. You have have nothing to lose neither, it's not like anyone expect you guys to beat him.
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