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ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 16:38:22
August 21 2010 16:30 GMT
#21
Oh dear lots of posts came up, be patient and I will get to all of you ^^
Each day gets better : )
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
August 21 2010 17:04 GMT
#22
I have an electric guitar at home, and I play for my church's praise team, but it's just basic chords. Asides from those chords and EXTREMELY basic strumming patterns, I don't really know how to play guitar. I only learned six months from a teacher and that was when I was younger.

I'm really looking to learning how to play guitar, because I don't want to have wasted my money on a good electric guitar for nothing. What's the best way for me to learn how to play guitar quickly online for free? Whenever I try to read tabs of my favorite songs, it seems like it would take forever to get the tabs down and I feel like I make no progress no matter how hard I practice :/.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
August 21 2010 17:09 GMT
#23
Q: I've been playing seriously for like 2 weeks now, practicing chords (Open E, A, G, etc)
Is there something I should be really focusing on? Things I really need to get good at? Or do I just start learning songs on my own?

Thank you in advance.
night terrors
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China1284 Posts
August 21 2010 17:12 GMT
#24
What kind of music do you play?
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
YoonHo
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Canada1043 Posts
August 21 2010 17:14 GMT
#25
Thank you for doing this. A question that I wanted to ask has already been used, so I'll just eagerly wait for your response ^^.
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ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
August 21 2010 17:28 GMT
#26
On August 22 2010 01:04 Archaic wrote:


EDIT: I actually have a question. For electric guitars, how do you keep the intonation stable? A lot of times, I find that I physically can't get some strings intonated because the bridge won't move far enough in a direction.


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The most obvious answer is the truss rod. However, if it's a guitar you like I wouldn't reccomend learning how to adjust it. The neck may be bowed in a way that won't be remedied by bridge tweaking. Don't switch radically between string gauges, as obviously the heavier ones will need a different set up than the lighter ones.

A: truss rod




On August 22 2010 01:07 Galois wrote:
Can you please explain in detail the fingerpicking position that I first read about? I got the impression that I'm only allowed to use my first, second, and third fingers to pick the strings and my thumb for the 6th string. I didn't really understand this and the tutorial I found on it didn't really get through to me unfortunately.

Here's a link for your pleasure to the lesson I'm talking about:

http://guitar.about.com/library/weekly/aa020601c.htm


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You will need to clean up your question a bit for me >_< , I'm not really sure what you are not getting. The finger movement? Where to put your fingers? The hand position?

[image loading] I couldn't find any great right hand shots, but this is pretty good.

oh here too

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That tutorial is an alright starting point, but know that both fingers and thumbs can go anywhere, their home position is like he says, but they don't live out their whole lives at home.

Do this - (no left hand ) Play the low E string with your thumb (the big string) , then, with your index, play the G string, the with your middle, the B string . There, you just fingerpicked with at least some sort of fluency. Did your hand move alot? Then, let's try and fix it this time. Pick again, try just from the fingers, the hand needn't move much at all. Relax , relax, try again.

Feel free to ask more questions on this subject...





On August 22 2010 01:09 Chromyne wrote:
I have been playing guitar casually for about 2 1/2 years. I am wondering what the best way to learn to sort of decorate as a secondary acoustic. Say the main guitarist is playing chords, is there a preferred way to learning how to play fills or licks to complement the main guitarist? My first guess would be to learn scales (like where more improvising starts?), what do you think?



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Hey Bro-chro..

The most obvious way - arpeggiate the chord he is playing, sprinkles on the cupcake. Learn different voicings for each chord so you can twinkle on the high notes or add depth in a lower position.

After that, you are right about the scales thing. This is your next stop and what I would say is this. Begin to learn the notes on your neck, say the first 3 strings (the skinny ones ) up to the 3rd fret each. Then, with each chord change, simply play the root of each chord, no more. There, you are soloing and improvising and all that.

Only after you could feel comfortable with any chord change , try adding one other note per bar. Never worry about making the "wrong note" . There never is a wrong note, just a sound you aren't used to , or didn't expect. Slowly add more notes between chord changes, try for 3, always trying to land on the root of the next chord when he changes.

Other than that, I usually think texturally, in that most often when you are in key, it doesn't really matter what you play, but how much you play. Is it dense, or sparse? This is important to take note of as it has a lot of power to drive a song.

I like questions on improvising...




On August 22 2010 01:11 koreasilver wrote:
The next girl that asks me to play "Wonderwall" when I have my guitar is going to get a solid slab of ash smashed into their solar plexus.



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Hah, well we all have our coping mechanisms..... Maybe we can all trade some.



On August 22 2010 01:12 SirGlinG wrote:
I'm playing in a band and it's getting more and more serious.
I'm wondering if it ever gets really important to know the theory behind it all?


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Great job for taking the next step. I absolutely and totally encourage you do pursue this. It will take some work, but it will be an absolute delight.

Right now, you are musically illiterate. You can speak the language (though I will say with a limited vocabulary) but can't communicate anything beyond common ideas.

Go up to my post for "chromyne" for a good starting point. Remember this : Theory is not a rule book, it's a timesaver for us to access sounds we like, and remember how we got there. So if in the future we want a similar sound that we had, we _know_ where it comes from. Better yet, if you want to know how to NOT get the same sound, you know where to break new ground.

10 minutes a day on this and in a year you will be miles ahead of your alternate reality self that didn't take the 10 minutes. Don't stress about it, it's a beautiful side of music that will help you grow.

do it, and ask more quesitons if you have any about it.




On August 22 2010 01:13 SubtleArt wrote:
I absolutely love listening to rock (classic, hard rock, and progressive rock) and some metal (like black sabbath and deep purple), so I'm really interested in starting to learn electric guitar. Is it too late to start tho? I wanna actually be good and play well. Right now I'm 18 and the only musical experience I have is being grade 8 in piano and 2 years of music theory.



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MY FRIEND

ITS NEVER TOO LATE

START TODAY! BORROW A GUITAR GO GET ONE!!

Listen, we get out what we put in. Many people have been playing for decades and aren't much farther ahead of where they started. No hatin, just sayin, you get what you put in.

Promise yourself you will try for 15 minutes a day, no more no less for a month. From there ask yourself again. By the time you finish university you could be much more abled than pretty much any of your rock heros in terms of technical skill (not to diminish them). That's just a few years, not counting how fun it is to nail riffs you've loved for so long, coming out of your hands.




On August 22 2010 01:15 Lexpar wrote:
Noob question: How do I transfer from D to C without wanting to cut off my stupid sausage fingers for being to slow?


On August 22 2010 01:19 Archaic wrote:
A key to chord changing is looking at your fingers and considering efficiency. (Assuming you're going xx0232 to x32010), look at your D. Your ring finger + middle finger pressing the high B + E are in the exact same position as they should be for the C, pressing the A + D. Just keep that exact same position, move upwards, while your index finger slides back one fret (on the same string). Eventually you'll get it. Practice!



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Thanks for the help , it is great advice.

I always say "plan your routes" in the starting phases. Take a second and see how each finger is going to get to where it is going.

Now Sexy Lexy, you are at the part in guitar playing , what I call the *first* wall. People tend to think that making a chord change on time is only for the select few, or rhythmically gifted or something. No, here's the problem....

Chord changing is made of two things , the chord, and the change - duh. The problem is most people only ever work on the chord, the clarity and accuracy. This is great! But that doesn't help the change.

So practise the change! Play the D, then count very slowly to 4, and by the time you get to 1 (1 comes after 4, hah) strum the C.

The catch - you have to strum NO MATTER WHAT YOUR LEFT HAND IS DOING. Don't worry if you get some chunky or crackly notes. We aren't practicing the accuracy right now, but the rhythm, so it's a success if you strum at the right time. Do this very slow. What we are doing is this.

Most people pause the right hand so the left hand can get where it wants to go. When we do this we train our brain to think that the left hand gets to have all the time we need. It's not our intention, but it's the reality.

So, with the rhythm practise we say "listen, we are going to make it to the party on time, so wether or not you want to get your make up in time or look like shit isn't my problem!" . Right hand is boss.

So, practice BOTH PARTS of _chord_ _changes_ and you will make it out alive as the two will slowly combine to make a smooth chord change.



Fewf, a workout !!


On August 22 2010 01:15 koreasilver wrote:
If you play an instrument it should be implied that you at least know your scales.



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Kissy kiss to you. Especially on the guitar where patterns have a way to rule supreme. When I speak to someone I assume they can read the language we are speaking. Yes there are cases when this isn't true, that should be the exception. Take your musical journey and learn all you can!


On August 22 2010 01:19 madnessman wrote:
Is there a best way to fix the intonation of a floyd rose guitar (which doesn't take like 2 hours)? I realized that the top few frets of my high e string are a little sharp.


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I talk a bit about intonation closer to the top, answered for archaic

Though I will say not every guitar is intoned as well as the next.Sometimes it WILL be impossible.



On August 22 2010 01:23 Azerbaijan wrote:
My wall is applying modes in composing and improvising. I understand how modes are constructed out of major scales and how they different patterns of whole and half steps create different sounds out of the modes but I feel like there is some key element that has just never "clicked" in my head when it comes to this stuff.

So if you can explain anything about modes that might help or even just suggest a book/website or anything that might help I would be grateful.


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Ahh I love talking about this stuff, my fingers are taking a shit kicking through this post though haha. ok.....


To truly uncover the sound of a mode, you don't just rip solos in the mode. You need to see the farther reaching consequences...

Take lydian for example, it is a major scale with a #4

Ok, so what?

Go through every chord in the scale and add that note and take note of what happens.

In standard C major, I can't have an F# in my tonic chord, but in C lydian , it's a defining trait. A very beautiful chord too, if you add in a B as well..

-0
-0
-0
-4
-3
-

What about the second chord, D minor ? Well, now it's a D major! Ok, so in C major we would have CM then Dm, but in C lydian we have C M then DM , That's unique.

Keep going. Ahh, E minor can become an Emin9! very pretty chord...

Now our IV chord has become wonked! I love it. instead of F major as our IV, we have F# half dim. INTERESTING.

Also G7 becomes GM7. A minor6 now has a major 6, which I think is a great great chord.

finally, Bdim becomes B- !! That's a fairly big deal , even if it doesn't sound like much.


So, we've uncovered the harmony so far. Go explore this yourself and find ways to play these chords. Do you see how much one note has changed our tonality so far? Go play these chords and get them in your ear, hear the lydianess of different progressions as opposed to just C major. Do this, come back when you need me.





On August 22 2010 01:26 Emon_ wrote:
I feel like I've plateaued and I don't know where to turn to improve. I can play a lot of songs by seeing the chords and I've tried to learn about scales and how it all fits together. My main interest is in rhythm guitar, but I only have a rough idea of what to train. Is there some direction you can point me to, maybe some good acoustic songs with great rhythms? I've been playing as a hobby for 3 years


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Emon, like that soul pop singer with the single from the 90s? "fuck it" ? I'm going to go listen to it while I talk with you...

I think I need a slightly better idea of the music you like and your current skill level. So you just want to play chords as good as you possibly can?

Sorry for making fun of your name for longer than your answer. I just need a bit more info ; )





Each day gets better : )
Sky
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Jordan812 Posts
August 21 2010 17:32 GMT
#27
Is there a tuning similar to DADGAD that keeps a bluesly sound? Tried open em for a Robert Johnson song, but he switches his tuning close to every song.
...jumping into cold water whenever I get the chance.
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 18:13:35
August 21 2010 17:51 GMT
#28
On August 22 2010 02:04 Prozen wrote:
I have an electric guitar at home, and I play for my church's praise team, but it's just basic chords. Asides from those chords and EXTREMELY basic strumming patterns, I don't really know how to play guitar. I only learned six months from a teacher and that was when I was younger.

I'm really looking to learning how to play guitar, because I don't want to have wasted my money on a good electric guitar for nothing. What's the best way for me to learn how to play guitar quickly online for free? Whenever I try to read tabs of my favorite songs, it seems like it would take forever to get the tabs down and I feel like I make no progress no matter how hard I practice :/.


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Aww, don't think like this!

When I started playing I would often get angry at myself for not progressing fast.

My attitude changed when I realized I don't _deserve_ guitar skill, I have to work for it. After some hard work, I realized it doesn't have to be hard work!

No matter what your level, while your larger goals should seem very difficult, you should always break them down into managable bites. I mean, Learning a whole solo or whatever in one go / day , is like trying to eat your hamburger in one bite. Just.. WHY?!

Listen, though I have been playing for many years longer than you, there is no single note that I can play that you cant. Cool eh? We are equals, I just have more experience.

So, find that riff or whatever you want to learn. Say it's 4 bars, or 30 notes or something all together. Say "today, I will learn the first 4 notes" . THATS IT! EASY! Can you not play 4 notes?! of course you can, you are Prozen and came out of your daddy's love for muckin pretty ladies.

After that, if you think you can handle more , take another 4 notes! Then after that, practice stringing them together. Keep doing this, 4 + 4 = 8, then string the 8s together. Soon you are riffin way too hard to handle !

Now, sometimes when we try to play something it actually seems like our fingers just CAN NOT do what's required, or the speed is so insane, or the right hand has to jump everywhere in ways we have never seen.

If this is the case, it is an issue of raw technical ability. Your left hand may be too sloppy to do the required motions, it might be wasting energy, inefficient. Your right hand might not be alternate picking, or maybe it is , but only sometimes. Slop! Trim the fat. The guitar journey is a sculpture we chip away to unveil the truth. Take the excess away.

If it a technical ability thing, you need to stop with the riff and pursue some very easy exercises so you can focus on the economy of motion.




On August 22 2010 02:09 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Q: I've been playing seriously for like 2 weeks now, practicing chords (Open E, A, G, etc)
Is there something I should be really focusing on? Things I really need to get good at? Or do I just start learning songs on my own?

Thank you in advance.


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You are doing great! I have a post about chord switching up above that will defnitely help you for Lexpar.

Other than that, try alternate picking very slow on your low string, then after a while, switch stringer, repeat. Then, I would say start to learn just one scale, C major most likely. Observe proper left hand fingering, go VERY VERY slowly, and alternate pick. It will seem like ALOT to handle at first, but take it in say, a group of 3 notes, and try and nail those first 3 notes, then the next 3. Keep a nice relaxed left hand and alternating right hand.

Just throw that into your practice, say for 5 minutes, and the pay outs will be tremendous down the road. Other than that you are well are your way and doing everything right !

Let me know how it goes. You're welcome!




On August 22 2010 02:12 night terrors wrote:
What kind of music do you play?


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Oh fun!

The real answer to this is probably the longest in the thread, because I am sometimes vain and like to explain my ideas fully.

But the short of it is that I have to be able to play every style with competency. Nowadays though, the money makers outside of teaching are jazz solo guitar or in small groups, or classical guitar at weddings and stuff. My practise usually focus on those two styles as well as technically and musically, they are among the most developed styles and have incredible depth. (not to diminish any other style, but these have been around for a very long time)

When I play for myself, it's usually exploratory with no wrong notes, and just a journey. Often I come up with ideas and flesh them out for many months until I feel they are in my trick bag. Right now I'm working on putting two, three, and four time signatures over each other, this is not common on guitar.

Just like a mention in other threads, at this point I realize I play for reasons I didn't think I would. It's for knowledge of self, to learn how far I can go, how I can focus my mind, to stretch my mental and physical, to learn what I really like, to learn patience, etc etc.

I don't typically play music made by other people unless to gain more skill, if it's extremely beautiful, or for money!




On August 22 2010 02:14 YoonHo wrote:
Thank you for doing this. A question that I wanted to ask has already been used, so I'll just eagerly wait for your response ^^.


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No problem Yoon-bro

Let me know if it needs a follow up . All this typing is jellifying my hands hahaha.



On August 22 2010 02:32 Sky wrote:
Is there a tuning similar to DADGAD that keeps a bluesly sound? Tried open em for a Robert Johnson song, but he switches his tuning close to every song.


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Well, there are loads, but really just keen your ear to what makes the blues sound bluesy. Any tuning works as well as another. Use the blues scale with proper inflections and your pretty much there. Since blues isn't a sound that needs to have droning strings, you don't really need an open tuning for blues except for ease of use , which is exemplified by Johnson switching all the time. You could look to the pedal steel players for tunings though..



Each day gets better : )
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:57:44
August 21 2010 17:55 GMT
#29
Was Chet Atkins really a God of Guitar disguised as a human`?

On August 22 2010 01:13 SubtleArt wrote:
I absolutely love listening to rock (classic, hard rock, and progressive rock) and some metal (like black sabbath and deep purple), so I'm really interested in starting to learn electric guitar. Is it too late to start tho? I wanna actually be good and play well. Right now I'm 18 and the only musical experience I have is being grade 8 in piano and 2 years of music theory.


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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 21 2010 17:58 GMT
#30
Open G tuning is brilliant when playing really old-school blues with a slide. :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 18:15:47
August 21 2010 18:14 GMT
#31
On August 22 2010 02:51 ella_guru wrote:

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Don't really recognize some things you're talking about but I'll look them up :p Thanks for the answer.

BTW, cool thread man
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 18:16:44
August 21 2010 18:15 GMT
#32
On August 22 2010 02:55 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Was Chet Atkins really a God of Guitar disguised as a human`?



Nah. One of his best quotes

"A lot of you came here tonight to hear the notes I'm going to play, I hope you aren't disappointed. A lot of you came here tonight to hear the notes I'm going to mess up, well , I know you aren't going to be disappointed."

A cute jab at how far away from the truth audiences get sometimes.

Each day gets better : )
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
August 21 2010 18:18 GMT
#33
On August 22 2010 03:14 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
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On August 22 2010 02:51 ella_guru wrote:

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Don't really recognize some things you're talking about but I'll look them up :p Thanks for the answer.

BTW, cool thread man



No problem. I was hoping to spark you onto some things you didn't know about . That's where there is truth in learning. Let me know if you need clarification or anything.

All the best to you

Each day gets better : )
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 21 2010 18:19 GMT
#34
You know, i've always wondered but been too lazy to find out - does having higher string action make fast alternate picking easier? I'm just in mid process of revamping my picking technique (after 4 1/2 years of not the best) so i'm running into issues of maintaining good picking technique and making myself as clean as i can.
Also - you're pictures are 100% true. Maybe i should have stopped playing guitar after learning about power chords or stairway to heaven.
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Azerbaijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States660 Posts
August 21 2010 18:37 GMT
#35
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Ahh I love talking about this stuff, my fingers are taking a shit kicking through this post though haha. ok.....


To truly uncover the sound of a mode, you don't just rip solos in the mode. You need to see the farther reaching consequences...

Take lydian for example, it is a major scale with a #4

Ok, so what?

Go through every chord in the scale and add that note and take note of what happens.

In standard C major, I can't have an F# in my tonic chord, but in C lydian , it's a defining trait. A very beautiful chord too, if you add in a B as well..

-0
-0
-0
-4
-3
-

What about the second chord, D minor ? Well, now it's a D major! Ok, so in C major we would have CM then Dm, but in C lydian we have C M then DM , That's unique.

Keep going. Ahh, E minor can become an Emin9! very pretty chord...

Now our IV chord has become wonked! I love it. instead of F major as our IV, we have F# half dim. INTERESTING.

Also G7 becomes GM7. A minor6 now has a major 6, which I think is a great great chord.

finally, Bdim becomes B- !! That's a fairly big deal , even if it doesn't sound like much.


So, we've uncovered the harmony so far. Go explore this yourself and find ways to play these chords. Do you see how much one note has changed our tonality so far? Go play these chords and get them in your ear, hear the lydianess of different progressions as opposed to just C major. Do this, come back when you need me.


Wow thanks so much. My mind has been blown; I got so excited messing around with this stuff that I broke my high E string lol. Off to guitar center! Thanks again
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
August 21 2010 19:00 GMT
#36
hey ella, i'm a fellow guitar player, and each summer, i try to learn new, but somewhat challenging, songs (I mainly learn songs that require finger picking, I'm not very good with using a pick =\). I was wondering if you knew any guitar songs that would be cool to learn. Thanks ^^
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night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
August 21 2010 19:15 GMT
#37
Is there any site where we can listen to your music?
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
squaremanhole
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States82 Posts
August 21 2010 19:16 GMT
#38
Rec some good songs to learn!

Fun picking ones that is
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
August 21 2010 19:23 GMT
#39
Sometimes, when I try to play with my teeth, it gets hooked on to a jagged part and it doesn't play the note how I want it to be played. Is there a good technique that can be used to play with your teeth and avoid the problem I am having?
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Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 21 2010 20:04 GMT
#40
so I'm at the point where I want to get better at lead guitar (I'm pretty comfortable already with rhythm guitar). What are some good exercises to build up speed? What are the steps I should take to be able to play lead guitar well? My long term goal is to be able to shred but that is very far away from what I'm able to do now :D
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