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Hey all,
As some of you may know I've been attending a korean church where literally everyone is very nice to me. I am the only white person under 60 in their church.
Some of the Koreans can speak both English and Korean but many can only speak Korean.. so most of the conversation amongst them is korean, in fact the only time anything is ever said in english is when people are talking/translating to me.
Because of this language barrier its makes it very hard to kind of become part of a group.
So I am considering taking up korean.. but I'm not sure if it is a good idea.
I heard korean is a very hard language to learn more complicated than japanese and korean. One korean demonstrated his point by asking me to repeat a verse he spoke in korean. I know there are a few korean speakers here on TL.
Another problem is that i have no real way to learn.. besides books with audio cd's and a few (28) pimsleur lessons. Not exactly the best way to learn.
Poll: Should I take up Korean?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
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I voted yes because once you learn Korean to the extent you can understand what people are saying, you'll never need to go through the boring English commentary of Starcraft Proleague ever again!!! And you can just tune in and listen to what the Korean commentators have to say!!! ^_^
Edit: As for learning korean, I know some colleges/universities have Korean courses where I took Korean courses at my former univ but now my new college that I transferred to don't have any.... or you can let someone tutor you from church.... possibly ideas and reasons for korean girls to tutor you! ^_^
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Per definition, you should take up Korean classes. Whether or not you will be able to flawlessly pronounce the Korean words does not matter but to communicate within this community seems way more important.
By the way, if you want to learn Korean, then you will find a way to do so. The FIRST thing you should do is search TL for guides (and there are plenty of them!)...
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On August 17 2009 09:46 QuickStriker wrote:
I voted yes because once you learn Korean to the extent you can understand what people are saying, you'll never need to go through the boring English commentary of Starcraft Proleague ever again!!! And you can just tune in and listen to what the Korean commentators have to say!!! ^_^
Very good point! + If i ever visit Korean like I really want to, I'd have an easier time.
Another problem is that after reading and mastering that book and going through the lessons.. I'd only have a semi-decent vocabulary. After that I don't know how I would learn more.
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On August 17 2009 09:49 vRoOk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2009 09:46 QuickStriker wrote:
I voted yes because once you learn Korean to the extent you can understand what people are saying, you'll never need to go through the boring English commentary of Starcraft Proleague ever again!!! And you can just tune in and listen to what the Korean commentators have to say!!! ^_^ Very good point! + If i ever visit Korean like I really want to, I'd have an easier time. Another problem is that after reading and mastering that book and going through the lessons.. I'd only have a semi-decent vocabulary. After that I don't know how I would learn more.
Well, here's the thing, I know Korean but I still haven't mastered it nor know it fully 100%. However, once you reach at least the 50% mark of listening skills of korean, just listening to the matches of SC in Korean commentary just help a bit and it slowly improves you by a little. Before I started watching PL and now, I think I went at least 5-10% of my Korean listening/talking skills... :D
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It's my opinion but Korean is probably the easiest east Asian language you can probably learn, especially compared to Chinese and Japanese (to me)
But it obviously won't be easy, it'll come down to your hard work
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You sure have won the thread!
That being said, I looked at the "Korean Guide" thread back in 2006 and it has like 100s of words from english to korean... really useful! ^_^
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It's really not THAT hard for you to pull it off as a foreignor. It's not like anyone's gonna look at you like a retard if you get a few things wrong and such, you have much more to gain than lose by going for it. It will make you look more intelligent when you speak with other Koreans and I personally think it's less complicated than English once you get all the basics down. So many useless variations and slangs in English -_-
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Why are u even in a korean church -_-
let me take a wild guess, for the cute korea girls there ;p
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So wait you're in america going to a korean church getting like sermons in Korean ? I mean I prefer the korean commentators on the vods but I think you're going to far.
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On August 17 2009 10:11 Wotans_Fire wrote:
So wait you're in america going to a korean church getting like sermons in Korean ? I mean I prefer the korean commentators on the vods but I think you're going to far.
yeah its retarted, your doing it for the girls 100% not becuase of your faith.
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On August 17 2009 10:11 Wotans_Fire wrote:
So wait you're in america going to a korean church getting like sermons in Korean ? I mean I prefer the korean commentators on the vods but I think you're going to far.
It's not like we believe in different religions... Like for my church there are a few white people around as well, but we have an English speaking ministry and Korean ministry separately, so I guess that makes more sense... Funny thing is half the Koreans in the English ministry can't even speak Korean fluently =_=;
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On August 17 2009 10:13 theobsessed1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2009 10:11 Wotans_Fire wrote:
So wait you're in america going to a korean church getting like sermons in Korean ? I mean I prefer the korean commentators on the vods but I think you're going to far. It's not like we believe in different religions... Like for my church there are a few white people around as well, but we have an English speaking ministry and Korean ministry separately, so I guess that makes more sense... Funny thing is half the Koreans in the English ministry can't even speak Korean fluently =_=;
Thats because alot of immigrant koreans cant speak korean so they have an EM (English Ministry) But what the OP is doing is purposely goign to a church and listening to sermons hes got no idea about. Theres soemtjhig seriously wrong, hes not doing it for God or his faith but probably something else that the hasnt told us about.
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Learn it man, you go to the church its going to help you out so much. plenty of online stuff thats free just have to look around
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What i want to know is the OP's intentions.
BTW my tone is harsh because i go to a Korean church and there are a couple of canadians who come there that are only there to see the women. It gets me pissed off that people do this and during prayer,sermon all they do is try hitting up a convo with the girls. Its annoying, hypocrticial and filled with wrong intentions.
I dont have 100% proof that the OP is doing what i have just said alot of Canadians do, but if he is shame on him. Im sorry if im falsely accusing you of this. But seriously you dont know how to speak korean and you listen to korean sermons ? ...
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it could be the only church in the area.
also to the OP, i think the language they use in church is much much more formal than people would use in daily life. if you stay at church long enough to pick up some words, they might not even be used in regular conversation. and likewise, if you learn korean from textbooks and people (where they use conversational korean), you might still not understand the sermons.
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It took me about 2 days to learn how to read korean. It also took me not that much time to become pretty good at speaking it (I was able to converse with a friend pretty quickly), as well as type it (the keyboard is also not difficult). However, the difficult part is learning how to talk formally or informally and when to do that (and there's a lot of different degrees of informality and so on), especially on your own without living in the country. My friend kept telling me that I was talking like a Korean textbook. Anyways, the point of that is, Korean is actually not that hard to learn on your own except for using it in conversation (and even then, if you're around Korean people your age, you'll eventually pick it up).
Why you are attending a Korean church, I don' t know, however, I do know that if it's a Korean church (even in America), it's hard to get along since they will converse mostly in Korean since most of the people there are Korean. If you find it worth your time to assimilate with the group, then yea, by all means do it. But you know, if you want Korean girls or Korean friends, there are plenty to meet in better places like school or something, places that don't require you to learn a completely new language since you DO live in America. However, if you just find Korean smooth, flowing, and cool like I did, then just learn it for fun anyways. Difficulty is definitely not an issue.
For learning, I actually had access to a textbook written in Korea (a friend lent it). But, I don't really think that's necessary if you just want to converse with people. If I were you I would just learn the basic structure of the language along with some key, high use vocab words and then find a Korean friend that will "talk" to you and tell you if you say something wrong. A lot of the formal rules you would use in writing or more formal tones of Korean are pretty much ignored in conversation (like English). There are plenty of websites if you want to learn "proper" Korean to build a base as well.
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On August 17 2009 10:44 nevake wrote:
It took me about 2 days to learn how to read korean. It also took me not that much time to become pretty good at speaking it (I was able to converse with a friend pretty quickly), as well as type it (the keyboard is also not difficult). However, the difficult part is learning how to talk formally or informally and when to do that (and there's a lot of different degrees of informality and so on), especially on your own without living in the country. My friend kept telling me that I was talking like a Korean textbook. Anyways, the point of that is, Korean is actually not that hard to learn on your own except for using it in conversation (and even then, if you're around Korean people your age, you'll eventually pick it up).
Why you are attending a Korean church, I don' t know, however, I do know that if it's a Korean church (even in America), it's hard to get along since they will converse mostly in Korean since most of the people there are Korean. If you find it worth your time to assimilate with the group, then yea, by all means do it. But you know, if you want Korean girls or Korean friends, there are plenty to meet in better places like school or something, places that don't require you to learn a completely new language since you DO live in America. However, if you just find Korean smooth, flowing, and cool like I did, then just learn it for fun anyways. Difficulty is definitely not an issue.
For learning, I actually had access to a textbook written in Korea (a friend lent it). But, I don't really think that's necessary if you just want to converse with people. If I were you I would just learn the basic structure of the language along with some key, high use vocab words and then find a Korean friend that will "talk" to you and tell you if you say something wrong. A lot of the formal rules you would use in writing or more formal tones of Korean are pretty much ignored in conversation (like English). There are plenty of websites if you want to learn "proper" Korean to build a base as well.
yeah learning korea IMO is easier than learning french or english. Its just the way the language is structure making it easier to learn. It took me a while to learn English when i first came to canada whereas when i forgot the korean language, it took me a year or two to speak/write/ listen fluently. Just get korean connections.
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On August 17 2009 10:19 SanguineToss wrote:
What i want to know is the OP's intentions.
BTW my tone is harsh because i go to a Korean church and there are a couple of canadians who come there that are only there to see the women. It gets me pissed off that people do this and during prayer,sermon all they do is try hitting up a convo with the girls. Its annoying, hypocrticial and filled with wrong intentions.
I dont have 100% proof that the OP is doing what i have just said alot of Canadians do, but if he is shame on him. Im sorry if im falsely accusing you of this. But seriously you dont know how to speak korean and you listen to korean sermons ? ...
I totally agree. Church should be a place for religious purposes, not for some loser kid trying to pick up asian chicks
As a half-assed Christian, I really hope you do go to Hell if that is your intention, using Christ as your excuse to pick up women. If its not, it shouldn't apply to you and no harm done
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