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On August 17 2009 10:25 29 fps wrote: it could be the only church in the area.
This, I find really hard to believe. Koreans don't make churches in the middle of nowhere. Usually, you will find Asian population in populated areas where there are other Asians. (Chinese/Koreans in LA, Japanese population in Seattle, Korean/Chinese population in Atlanta, huge Chinese popoulation in NYC)
And if its a populated area (where you will find Asian population), there WILL be a church. America is the only other country I saw where churches were everywhere you look, I guess it only makes sense because this is technically a Christian nation.
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NeverGG
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'I heard korean is a very hard language to learn more complicated than japanese and Chinese (?). '
In my opinion Korean is very easy to read/write, but the difficulties come from listening and grammar (for me anyway.) It's definitely easier than Japanese and Chinese because it is not as tonal as Chinese (so I've heard.) and you only have to memorize one alphabet as opposed to two for Japanese (hiragana and katakana.) plus Kanji or a shedload of characters for Chinese. I'd say go for it! There are plenty of good language books around. I'm currently using the Arirang series and Korean Made Easy. Try to always get on with a CD/tape or downloadable mp3s because listening is one of the toughest elements of Korean.
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Just by seeing no reply from the OP im sure my guess is totally right. If it is, i sure wish you seriously grow up and get a life.
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On August 17 2009 11:18 NeverGG wrote: 'I heard korean is a very hard language to learn more complicated than japanese and Chinese (?). '
In my opinion Korean is very easy to read/write, but the difficulties come from listening and grammar (for me anyway.) It's definitely easier than Japanese and Chinese because it is not as tonal as Chinese (so I've heard.) and you only have to memorize one alphabet as opposed to two for Japanese (hiragana and katakana.) plus Kanji or a shedload of characters for Chinese. I'd say go for it! There are plenty of good language books around. I'm currently using the Arirang series and Korean Made Easy. Try to always get on with a CD/tape or downloadable mp3s because listening is one of the toughest elements of Korean.
I've had experience with Korean, Japanese, Chinese and I'd have to say its depends on each aspect. For example, Chinese grammar rules is very easy to pick up but their tone/speech combined with their gruesome writing system makes it hard to learn completely. The way you pronounce the same word can make completely different meaning. Japanese grammar is very similar to Koreans, incredibly identical, and even some vocabulary as well. No seriously, Japanese grammar structure, their "wa / ni / no / desu" verb system is ridiculously similar to Korean's (nuen / eun) system. The only difference is that Korean writing system/reading is a lot easier than Japanese because it doesn't use Kanji in everyday writing. Japanese writing/reading is harder than Korean but easier than Chinese. Katakana + Kanji is a pain in the ass but Hiragana is very easy to learn. I've noticed that Chinese grammar is very similar to English.
So in short, if you are Korean, you should be able to pick up Japanese easier but Chinese less easier. If you are American, you should be able to pick up Chinese easier but Korean and Japanese will be harder
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On August 17 2009 11:32 AzureEye wrote: So in short, if you are Korean, you should be able to pick up Japanese easier but Chinese less easier. If you are American, you should be able to pick up Chinese easier but Korean and Japanese will be harder
Yup, I heard this as well.
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How about if I'm Chinese-American? =/
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i personally find it really difficult to remember korean because there aren't any chinese characters...
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You do not have a good reason to learn korean.
You do not have a good reason to go to church... especially that one.
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You should definitely try to learn some basic phrases; I'm Korean myself so I wouldn't know how difficult it is to learn, but I'm sure it's not THAT much harder than learning any other language...
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i just finished the first level of korean on pimsleur (the 30 lessons) .. getting lvl 2 now. i knew how to read/write korean since forever but i never bothered doing anything with it. this summer i figured i could do something on the subway going to work so over the past like.. 1.5 months or so i was doing this. so consider this my plug for pimsleur because (unlike rosetta stone which i also have but gave up since internet is distracting) i think it actually helped me learn a little
no idea why i'm learning it actually, i mean i learned to read it a long time ago when i was into starcraft/lineage but i don't follow sc at all anymore. i think it's just something to do, since gaming is getting pretty boring in general for me.
i dunno if i'm making any progress though lol. i guess i sort of know some basics but it's a little hard to say. anyone wanna come chill on vent some time and help me out? :p
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going after korean chicks is a perfectly legitimate reason for learning the language. fuck i did the same thing just with chinese instead haha.
edit: it works too
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On August 17 2009 12:54 TommyGG wrote: going after korean chicks is a perfectly legitimate reason for learning the language. fuck i did the same thing just with chinese instead haha.
Yeah theres nothing wrong, but to have that intention in a church? Please read the thread before you post.
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On August 17 2009 12:59 SanguineToss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2009 12:54 TommyGG wrote: going after korean chicks is a perfectly legitimate reason for learning the language. fuck i did the same thing just with chinese instead haha. Yeah theres nothing wrong, but to have that intention in a church? Please read the thread before you post.
ok let me say it again
going after korean chicks (even in a church) is a perfectly legitimate reason for learning the language. fuck i did the same thing just with chinese instead haha.
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The discussion has nothing to do with why he is in the church or his intentions with the girls at said church. He's just asking if it's worth his effort to learn the language to converse with the people he sees on a regular basis. Whether or not he uses that knowledge to try and get with the church girls is completely irrelevant...
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i doubt that he's at the Korean church for chicks, churchy Korean girls are such bitches
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We've yet to hear a response from the OP lolol
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It's cuz he's busy trying to pick up Korean girls in Church! It's Sunday you know?!
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On August 17 2009 10:12 SanguineToss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2009 10:11 Wotans_Fire wrote: So wait you're in america going to a korean church getting like sermons in Korean ? I mean I prefer the korean commentators on the vods but I think you're going to far. yeah its retarted, your doing it for the girls 100% not becuase of your faith.
I'm calling you on this. Are you saying most koreans go to korean churches because of their faith? It's not like there's a lack of non-korean churches (a sort of unrelated point). I will assert koreans go to korean churches 80% because it's peer related, and originally because it's the only natural setting where groups of koreans could congregate in the western world. I also think both are perfectly valid reasons to go; I have an issue with people pretending they or their reasons are better than other people('s).
I would argue that you mean not because your korean and everyone else is doing it, i.e. you're not one of us.
That being said, the only reasons I can think of a non-korean going to a korean church is a mystifying lack of other churches, his friends/girlfriend are/is korean, or he has a predilection for korean culture.
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you forgot to also list that the parents force them most of the time
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On August 17 2009 10:12 SanguineToss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2009 10:11 Wotans_Fire wrote: So wait you're in america going to a korean church getting like sermons in Korean ? I mean I prefer the korean commentators on the vods but I think you're going to far. yeah its retarted, your doing it for the girls 100% not becuase of your faith.
Its all good, i started out going to church for girls too..... but that was when i was in my teens. now i am a devoted christian and glad i even went to church last time. ahhhh, the good old daysss~~~
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