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Arnic
Profile Joined January 2009
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Last Edited: 2009-07-30 15:44:12
July 30 2009 11:43 GMT
#61
On July 30 2009 18:09 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2009 17:41 McCrank wrote:
If you are gonna compliment them compliment their hair/clothes(if they have dressed up). Something they have put an effort into. Complimenting on their natural looks isn't as effective. They know their natural look is great.


This is actually very very very true.

Here's a good pattern to use:

I love the way you matched your [insert any piece of clothing/accessory above the belt] with your [anything below the belt/shoes]. If they are the same colour, you can say they compliment each other and bring unison to the whole outfit. If they are different colours, you can say they provide nice contrast.



Frank McFakename: "Oh hey gurl! You're looking so awesome today, I love how your hands totally match your feet, they're like the same color! Mmm honey, that pale tan looks so good on you and those shoes. OH GOD, THOSE SHOES! WHEREVER DID YOU GET THEM? Neon green, strap heeled, lace up, thigh high, evening-sneakers are so you. You wanna come buy some eyeliner with me later?".

Betty Swallows: "Are you gay?"

Seriously, think about what you're saying and how you start off talking to someone, how you get to know someone. Would you continue to talk to a girl like this after you'd known her for a week, a month, a year? No... I don't think so.

All these posts verging and more than verging on the pick up stuff, they're so full of assumption.
None of these are going to help someone who has trouble talking to women or making a conversation last longer than 10 minutes improve upon that. Unless you seriously, really, genuinely want to talk about meaningless tripe.

You're talking to a human being, not a photograph, not a painting on a wall.
If you want to talk to the kind of girl who loves nothing more than clothes, then be my guest and good luck to you.

You say to a girl, "Your shoes are blue, that's a wonderful contrast to your yellow scarf".
What's the answer likely to be, unless you're talking to a fashion student?
Is she going to respond in an amazing way with something that leads you both down a path of conversational harmony and wonder or is she going to say "Uh... thanks?"

Do you think you're going to stand out and be remembered for doing that? Think about it, this is the same advice given in every book about "how to get a girl". Go to any forum where the majority of users are male and find the ronery threads or the "OH HALP, FRIENDZONED?!" threads.
Read what people say, it's the same things over and over again.

"Girls love compliments, girls love to be complimented on their clothes. Girls love it when you ask them stuff that means they can talk your goddamn ears off about things you don't give a shit about but if you want to get laid, that's what you need to do."

Now forgive me if I'm wrong but the OP was asking about communication with girls, how to keep a conversation going, how to have and maintain interest.
Shoes? Clothes? Pretty colors? - These are not things to make a conversation last. They're complete and utter waffle and they're also so annoying. People complain that girls are shallow and are into all this stuff, they're not interesting, there's nothing interesting to say yet this is all being encouraged because it's what you're telling each other to talk to them about!

There's really not that much difference between you and any girl you talk to.
You both sleep, eat, piss and fart. You both laugh, get angry or upset, get frustrated, experience happiness, get lonely sometimes but mostly you feel ok and you can be both be stupid or nervous.

Think about the things you always have in common with someone.
Childhood is a good place to start and it's usually a topic you'll both have plenty of stories about.

"What were your dreams when you were younger?" "What did you want to do when you grew up?"
"What's the stupidest/most dangerous/nicest thing you ever did as a child?"

Unless someone had the most hideous childhood ever, there should be something there for you to both talk about and it can lead on to what you're doing now and why. What are you both studying, what are your aspirations, family life... All kinds of things.

Think of questions you actually want to hear the answers to, things that you'd be happy to answer if someone asked you and for fuck's sakes, don't be false with compliments.
Give them genuinely and without ulterior motive.
Do you honestly think her top looks super cool with her jeans? No? Then don't say you do.

You know sometimes there's a moment with someone where they do something and you find yourself thinking "that person just became beautiful to me for the simplest reason".
It could be the pitch of their voice, the freedom in their laughter, their smile at a time where you didn't expect it but when it happened it was like a sunrise just for you.
Those are the moments you keep compliments for and they most definitely mean a lot more when they're given with feeling and sincerity.


So far, the most useful and inspirational thing in this thread for someone who wants to improve their converstional skills has been posted by MrHoon.

On July 30 2009 16:02 MrHoon wrote:
I said this numerous times, but I was in the same situation as you when I graduated HS.
I wanted to talk to girls it usually ended up awkward so I felt really bad about myself D:

So when I got to NYC, I decided to train my oral skills so I bought 4 cheeseburgers for hobos and told them I'll give this to him if he talks with me for 30 minutes. Did this about 3 times a week for a full 2 months and I started to learn how to make enjoyable conversations and learn what heroin could do to you lol


That must have taken some balls and I personally think it's a really nice thing to do as well. More people should try it and perhaps start up some kind of hobo-feeding-L2conversation charity.
But with a better name.
HomieZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
45 Posts
July 30 2009 23:35 GMT
#62
Who's Hobo? a bum on the street?
HomieZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
45 Posts
July 30 2009 23:49 GMT
#63
On July 30 2009 20:43 Arnic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2009 18:09 Cambium wrote:
On July 30 2009 17:41 McCrank wrote:
If you are gonna compliment them compliment their hair/clothes(if they have dressed up). Something they have put an effort into. Complimenting on their natural looks isn't as effective. They know their natural look is great.


This is actually very very very true.

Here's a good pattern to use:

I love the way you matched your [insert any piece of clothing/accessory above the belt] with your [anything below the belt/shoes]. If they are the same colour, you can say they compliment each other and bring unison to the whole outfit. If they are different colours, you can say they provide nice contrast.



Frank McFakename: "Oh hey gurl! You're looking so awesome today, I love how your hands totally match your feet, they're like the same color! Mmm honey, that pale tan looks so good on you and those shoes. OH GOD, THOSE SHOES! WHEREVER DID YOU GET THEM? Neon green, strap heeled, lace up, thigh high, evening-sneakers are so you. You wanna come buy some eyeliner with me later?".

Betty Swallows: "Are you gay?"

Seriously, think about what you're saying and how you start off talking to someone, how you get to know someone. Would you continue to talk to a girl like this after you'd known her for a week, a month, a year? No... I don't think so.

All these posts verging and more than verging on the pick up stuff, they're so full of assumption.
None of these are going to help someone who has trouble talking to women or making a conversation last longer than 10 minutes improve upon that. Unless you seriously, really, genuinely want to talk about meaningless tripe.

You're talking to a human being, not a photograph, not a painting on a wall.
If you want to talk to the kind of girl who loves nothing more than clothes, then be my guest and good luck to you.

You say to a girl, "Your shoes are blue, that's a wonderful contrast to your yellow scarf".
What's the answer likely to be, unless you're talking to a fashion student?
Is she going to respond in an amazing way with something that leads you both down a path of conversational harmony and wonder or is she going to say "Uh... thanks?"

Do you think you're going to stand out and be remembered for doing that? Think about it, this is the same advice given in every book about "how to get a girl". Go to any forum where the majority of users are male and find the ronery threads or the "OH HALP, FRIENDZONED?!" threads.
Read what people say, it's the same things over and over again.

"Girls love compliments, girls love to be complimented on their clothes. Girls love it when you ask them stuff that means they can talk your goddamn ears off about things you don't give a shit about but if you want to get laid, that's what you need to do."

Now forgive me if I'm wrong but the OP was asking about communication with girls, how to keep a conversation going, how to have and maintain interest.
Shoes? Clothes? Pretty colors? - These are not things to make a conversation last. They're complete and utter waffle and they're also so annoying. People complain that girls are shallow and are into all this stuff, they're not interesting, there's nothing interesting to say yet this is all being encouraged because it's what you're telling each other to talk to them about!

There's really not that much difference between you and any girl you talk to.
You both sleep, eat, piss and fart. You both laugh, get angry or upset, get frustrated, experience happiness, get lonely sometimes but mostly you feel ok and you can be both be stupid or nervous.

Think about the things you always have in common with someone.
Childhood is a good place to start and it's usually a topic you'll both have plenty of stories about.

"What were your dreams when you were younger?" "What did you want to do when you grew up?"
"What's the stupidest/most dangerous/nicest thing you ever did as a child?"

Unless someone had the most hideous childhood ever, there should be something there for you to both talk about and it can lead on to what you're doing now and why. What are you both studying, what are your aspirations, family life... All kinds of things.

Think of questions you actually want to hear the answers to, things that you'd be happy to answer if someone asked you and for fuck's sakes, don't be false with compliments.
Give them genuinely and without ulterior motive.
Do you honestly think her top looks super cool with her jeans? No? Then don't say you do.

You know sometimes there's a moment with someone where they do something and you find yourself thinking "that person just became beautiful to me for the simplest reason".
It could be the pitch of their voice, the freedom in their laughter, their smile at a time where you didn't expect it but when it happened it was like a sunrise just for you.
Those are the moments you keep compliments for and they most definitely mean a lot more when they're given with feeling and sincerity.


So far, the most useful and inspirational thing in this thread for someone who wants to improve their converstional skills has been posted by MrHoon.

Show nested quote +
On July 30 2009 16:02 MrHoon wrote:
I said this numerous times, but I was in the same situation as you when I graduated HS.
I wanted to talk to girls it usually ended up awkward so I felt really bad about myself D:

So when I got to NYC, I decided to train my oral skills so I bought 4 cheeseburgers for hobos and told them I'll give this to him if he talks with me for 30 minutes. Did this about 3 times a week for a full 2 months and I started to learn how to make enjoyable conversations and learn what heroin could do to you lol


That must have taken some balls and I personally think it's a really nice thing to do as well. More people should try it and perhaps start up some kind of hobo-feeding-L2conversation charity.
But with a better name.


Right now, I see two different types of girls. Some are just like me who are not very talkative yet, some are just very talkative. The pick up lines are not bad as long as they are not used as opening lines or as purpose to get laid.

The three things to master given by forgottenone are definitely true, the compliment in this case is pickup line but used in a different situation, I find girls are very emotional and therefore relating to them definitely works; and most of the girls talk to each other about what happened yesterday and this and that, basically short stories of their life or some gossip happened in hollywood or they seen or heard.

Nebffa also said it right on point, I seem to always be talking that kind of stuff which are very generic and boring and result in short conversations, nothing memorable nor leaving a good impression.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 31 2009 01:39 GMT
#64
Tell her you got some dirty dishes at your house, then ask her if she wants to wash them with you.
Seriously girls dig that shit
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Ichigo1234551
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States649 Posts
August 04 2009 17:51 GMT
#65
Gah Im going to my friend's house to smoke weed. I have a crush on her sister. IM SO NERVOUS LOL!!!! didnt sleep last night because i was trying to change my sleeping schedule. can someone tell me how can I stop being nervous??????
I WILL DESTROY YOU IN 2009 OK???????????????
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7290 Posts
August 04 2009 22:37 GMT
#66
On August 05 2009 02:51 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
Gah Im going to my friend's house to smoke weed. I have a crush on her sister. IM SO NERVOUS LOL!!!! didnt sleep last night because i was trying to change my sleeping schedule. can someone tell me how can I stop being nervous??????



get drunk
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 05 2009 01:50 GMT
#67
On July 30 2009 20:43 Arnic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2009 18:09 Cambium wrote:
On July 30 2009 17:41 McCrank wrote:
If you are gonna compliment them compliment their hair/clothes(if they have dressed up). Something they have put an effort into. Complimenting on their natural looks isn't as effective. They know their natural look is great.


This is actually very very very true.

Here's a good pattern to use:

I love the way you matched your [insert any piece of clothing/accessory above the belt] with your [anything below the belt/shoes]. If they are the same colour, you can say they compliment each other and bring unison to the whole outfit. If they are different colours, you can say they provide nice contrast.



Frank McFakename: "Oh hey gurl! You're looking so awesome today, I love how your hands totally match your feet, they're like the same color! Mmm honey, that pale tan looks so good on you and those shoes. OH GOD, THOSE SHOES! WHEREVER DID YOU GET THEM? Neon green, strap heeled, lace up, thigh high, evening-sneakers are so you. You wanna come buy some eyeliner with me later?".

Betty Swallows: "Are you gay?"

Seriously, think about what you're saying and how you start off talking to someone, how you get to know someone. Would you continue to talk to a girl like this after you'd known her for a week, a month, a year? No... I don't think so.

All these posts verging and more than verging on the pick up stuff, they're so full of assumption.
None of these are going to help someone who has trouble talking to women or making a conversation last longer than 10 minutes improve upon that. Unless you seriously, really, genuinely want to talk about meaningless tripe.

You're talking to a human being, not a photograph, not a painting on a wall.
If you want to talk to the kind of girl who loves nothing more than clothes, then be my guest and good luck to you.

You say to a girl, "Your shoes are blue, that's a wonderful contrast to your yellow scarf".
What's the answer likely to be, unless you're talking to a fashion student?
Is she going to respond in an amazing way with something that leads you both down a path of conversational harmony and wonder or is she going to say "Uh... thanks?"

Do you think you're going to stand out and be remembered for doing that? Think about it, this is the same advice given in every book about "how to get a girl". Go to any forum where the majority of users are male and find the ronery threads or the "OH HALP, FRIENDZONED?!" threads.
Read what people say, it's the same things over and over again.

"Girls love compliments, girls love to be complimented on their clothes. Girls love it when you ask them stuff that means they can talk your goddamn ears off about things you don't give a shit about but if you want to get laid, that's what you need to do."

Now forgive me if I'm wrong but the OP was asking about communication with girls, how to keep a conversation going, how to have and maintain interest.
Shoes? Clothes? Pretty colors? - These are not things to make a conversation last. They're complete and utter waffle and they're also so annoying. People complain that girls are shallow and are into all this stuff, they're not interesting, there's nothing interesting to say yet this is all being encouraged because it's what you're telling each other to talk to them about!

There's really not that much difference between you and any girl you talk to.
You both sleep, eat, piss and fart. You both laugh, get angry or upset, get frustrated, experience happiness, get lonely sometimes but mostly you feel ok and you can be both be stupid or nervous.

Think about the things you always have in common with someone.
Childhood is a good place to start and it's usually a topic you'll both have plenty of stories about.

"What were your dreams when you were younger?" "What did you want to do when you grew up?"
"What's the stupidest/most dangerous/nicest thing you ever did as a child?"

Unless someone had the most hideous childhood ever, there should be something there for you to both talk about and it can lead on to what you're doing now and why. What are you both studying, what are your aspirations, family life... All kinds of things.

Think of questions you actually want to hear the answers to, things that you'd be happy to answer if someone asked you and for fuck's sakes, don't be false with compliments.
Give them genuinely and without ulterior motive.
Do you honestly think her top looks super cool with her jeans? No? Then don't say you do.

You know sometimes there's a moment with someone where they do something and you find yourself thinking "that person just became beautiful to me for the simplest reason".
It could be the pitch of their voice, the freedom in their laughter, their smile at a time where you didn't expect it but when it happened it was like a sunrise just for you.
Those are the moments you keep compliments for and they most definitely mean a lot more when they're given with feeling and sincerity.


So far, the most useful and inspirational thing in this thread for someone who wants to improve their converstional skills has been posted by MrHoon.

Show nested quote +
On July 30 2009 16:02 MrHoon wrote:
I said this numerous times, but I was in the same situation as you when I graduated HS.
I wanted to talk to girls it usually ended up awkward so I felt really bad about myself D:

So when I got to NYC, I decided to train my oral skills so I bought 4 cheeseburgers for hobos and told them I'll give this to him if he talks with me for 30 minutes. Did this about 3 times a week for a full 2 months and I started to learn how to make enjoyable conversations and learn what heroin could do to you lol


That must have taken some balls and I personally think it's a really nice thing to do as well. More people should try it and perhaps start up some kind of hobo-feeding-L2conversation charity.
But with a better name.
You deserve a medal.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
August 05 2009 02:13 GMT
#68
some nice responses here, gj arnic for the most part, and mad props to MrHoon if this is true ROFL
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 05 2009 02:26 GMT
#69
just brag about your vast riches
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
[ZiNC]Ling
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States69 Posts
August 05 2009 02:35 GMT
#70
Beware of long angry post...

On July 30 2009 08:11 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Think of it like this; what do girls like talking about (in general)? They like to talk about themselves, what to wear, how they look, makeup etc. Compliments are great here too.
They also like to talk drama or some kind of bullshit so they can feel you out.


To some extent, this is true. A lot of girls like to talk about clothes and suchlike. But if this is your topic of choice when talking to girls, you will successfully chat up/befriend/date girls who love fashion and gossip. The girls out there who prefer video games, although they are a minority, will have no idea you really want to talk about StarCraft. If your goal is to add to your count of women seduced and move on, go ahead and talk about makeup. But it sounds like OP is looking for friends and relationship prospects. I'd be surprised if you want a friend/girlfriend who is mainly interested in expensive clothes and which actress is dating whom.

On July 30 2009 15:24 Arnic wrote:
Those of you who say you wish you could talk about Starcraft or other games/hobbies that you don't think appeal the vast masses of females out there. WHY DON'T YOU TRY IT?
You don't have to give the entire history of the game but you can say "I really enjoy something that challenges me, that makes me think, I play Starcraft and it's incredible because <insert personal reasoning as to why>, in a strange way I've found that I've become better/more capable at <insert relevant lifeskill> since I started playing.


I wish this post were a blog so I could give it 5/5. I'm tired of reading posts on TeamLiquid saying "I hate how girls are never interested in gaming, and only like to chatter about their shoes." News flash, girls are people, just like guys are people. There's a lot of variation among girls just like there is variation among guys. Some girls out there hate shoes and really want to hear you talk about StarCraft.


All these posts verging and more than verging on the pick up stuff, they're so full of assumption.
None of these are going to help someone who has trouble talking to women or making a conversation last longer than 10 minutes improve upon that. Unless you seriously, really, genuinely want to talk about meaningless tripe.

You're talking to a human being, not a photograph, not a painting on a wall.
If you want to talk to the kind of girl who loves nothing more than clothes, then be my guest and good luck to you.


This.


There are a bunch of people in this thread who seem to have VERY wrong ideas about how to approach girls - as in they will get you off the friend list, off the dating list, and onto the avoid at all costs list very fast. Here's one.

On July 30 2009 06:06 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
get the feelings that you want them to feel and then direct the feeling to you. Girls when we talk to them, they get feelings out of it. If you tell a sexy story, then they going to feel horny.

Its kinda stupid how guys think they can try and seduce girls with some by trying to connect with them and stuff. Its all about feelings. If you make her feel when she is with her first love, she gonna be with you. And how do you make her feel that way??? by patterning.


Frankly, this is just creepy. If someone I knew casually came up to me and started telling a "sexy story" or asking how it feels to be in love, I would be disgusted and leave immediately. This is the clearest way to indicate that you have read some pseudo-psychological shit on the internet about how to get into a girl's pants.


and also really important is try to touch her as much as possible!!!! TOUCH HER EVERY CHANCE YOU GET MAN!!!!!!!!
DOnt be scared, girls love it when you touch them.
You want to be in control. Dont ever let her take control of the situation. You are playing with her man not the other way around.


Absolutely not, this is creepy as shit. What would you think if a huge, burly, flamboyantly gay dude came up to you and started touching you? Probably something like "Oh god, I think this guy wants to have sex with me, I don't want that at all, and he is showing no respect for my personal space, I need to punch him in the eye and RUN." That's exactly what that girl will think.


Have you try to make the girl feel uncomfortable in a good way? by feeling uncomfortable i mean make her feel out of her secure area and into you. When a girl feel threatened by you, she going to try and get comfortable. An example is just playing with her. she is just a game man.
I dont know if you can do this at your work place but.

Scare her when she looks at something, maybe from behind or something.


In my experience as a girl interacting with guys, there is no such thing as "uncomfortable in a good way." When a girl feels threatened by you, she might play around with you, or she might show you the business end of her can of pepper spray and call the police. How obvious can it be that you should not mess around with people you don't know well? You should be cautious with someone, male or female, until you know their limits, or you may just get owned.


Secondly, why are you getting advices from girls lol, I dont want to be sexist or anything but I dont think girls know what they want or if they telling you that ,its just what they want you to think.


Not all people (girls included) know exactly what they want in another person. But most of us have clear boundaries set up for things that we most definitely DO NOT WANT. You are very much in that category for me and for most girls I know. Please reconsider your views before they get you into trouble.


Any girl that want to have fun wouldnt mind touching. Friends touch each other all the time, she going to think that you are hitting on her because you are touching her??
if you act like it normal? then if she thinks that way then she is weird not you.

so she is weird if she acts you differently. it just shows that she cant show friendly expession.

I think the reason your girlfriend is responding that way is maybe because the guy does it was a little nervous so it was weird. Also i think she is a little weird. A fun girl should be friendly to everyone.


Again, horrifyingly wrong. "Friendly expression" does not equate to "willingness to be touched by some creeper you just met." She will ABSOLUTELY think you are hitting on her because you are touching her, and one of two things will happen:

1. She is a drunken, rebellious teenager at a party. She will sleep with you to piss off her parents, and she thinks it makes her "mature."
2. She is a normal human being, and she will go home and call her girlfriends and tell them to be careful of <your description> when they go out at night.

A "girl who wants to have fun" wouldn't mind touching you in a public setting like a party or dinner date after you get to know her, show her you're trustworthy and friendly, and that you don't want to hurt her. Girls who like being touched by people they've just met are not "weird" or "unfriendly." They are just average people who have a personal space they don't want you to invade until you show good intentions. The aforementioned guy's girlfriend is just a normal person in that respect.


Also if you try and the girl is annoyed at you? she is a bitch. You should just forget about her because you dont want an antisocial girl that is boring and bitchy. Would you want a girl that have fun? because you can have fun with her too! So if you get a negative respond from a girl, just forget about her, you just wanna share your fun with her, if she doesnt want it then she is a bitch and not worth your time to help her. She her end up with some loser and you just have fun.


A girl who doesn't want to sleep with you is not automatically a "bitch." Some girls out there are bitches, some just don't like your looks or what you choose to talk about or they have boyfriends already and are just looking for a random chat. The fact is you will get rejected sometimes, maybe it's true she isn't worth your time, or maybe you are a grade-A asshole who will offend and frighten a lot of women if you keep treating them like they are "just a game." Ichigo, good luck finding someone who appreciates your methods before you start losing your friends, your jobs, and your nice clean criminal record.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
August 05 2009 02:37 GMT
#71
On July 30 2009 20:43 Arnic wrote:
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On July 30 2009 18:09 Cambium wrote:
On July 30 2009 17:41 McCrank wrote:
If you are gonna compliment them compliment their hair/clothes(if they have dressed up). Something they have put an effort into. Complimenting on their natural looks isn't as effective. They know their natural look is great.


This is actually very very very true.

Here's a good pattern to use:

I love the way you matched your [insert any piece of clothing/accessory above the belt] with your [anything below the belt/shoes]. If they are the same colour, you can say they compliment each other and bring unison to the whole outfit. If they are different colours, you can say they provide nice contrast.



Frank McFakename: "Oh hey gurl! You're looking so awesome today, I love how your hands totally match your feet, they're like the same color! Mmm honey, that pale tan looks so good on you and those shoes. OH GOD, THOSE SHOES! WHEREVER DID YOU GET THEM? Neon green, strap heeled, lace up, thigh high, evening-sneakers are so you. You wanna come buy some eyeliner with me later?".

Betty Swallows: "Are you gay?"

Seriously, think about what you're saying and how you start off talking to someone, how you get to know someone. Would you continue to talk to a girl like this after you'd known her for a week, a month, a year? No... I don't think so.

All these posts verging and more than verging on the pick up stuff, they're so full of assumption.
None of these are going to help someone who has trouble talking to women or making a conversation last longer than 10 minutes improve upon that. Unless you seriously, really, genuinely want to talk about meaningless tripe.

You're talking to a human being, not a photograph, not a painting on a wall.
If you want to talk to the kind of girl who loves nothing more than clothes, then be my guest and good luck to you.

You say to a girl, "Your shoes are blue, that's a wonderful contrast to your yellow scarf".
What's the answer likely to be, unless you're talking to a fashion student?
Is she going to respond in an amazing way with something that leads you both down a path of conversational harmony and wonder or is she going to say "Uh... thanks?"

Do you think you're going to stand out and be remembered for doing that? Think about it, this is the same advice given in every book about "how to get a girl". Go to any forum where the majority of users are male and find the ronery threads or the "OH HALP, FRIENDZONED?!" threads.
Read what people say, it's the same things over and over again.

"Girls love compliments, girls love to be complimented on their clothes. Girls love it when you ask them stuff that means they can talk your goddamn ears off about things you don't give a shit about but if you want to get laid, that's what you need to do."

Now forgive me if I'm wrong but the OP was asking about communication with girls, how to keep a conversation going, how to have and maintain interest.
Shoes? Clothes? Pretty colors? - These are not things to make a conversation last. They're complete and utter waffle and they're also so annoying. People complain that girls are shallow and are into all this stuff, they're not interesting, there's nothing interesting to say yet this is all being encouraged because it's what you're telling each other to talk to them about!

There's really not that much difference between you and any girl you talk to.
You both sleep, eat, piss and fart. You both laugh, get angry or upset, get frustrated, experience happiness, get lonely sometimes but mostly you feel ok and you can be both be stupid or nervous.

Think about the things you always have in common with someone.
Childhood is a good place to start and it's usually a topic you'll both have plenty of stories about.

"What were your dreams when you were younger?" "What did you want to do when you grew up?"
"What's the stupidest/most dangerous/nicest thing you ever did as a child?"

Unless someone had the most hideous childhood ever, there should be something there for you to both talk about and it can lead on to what you're doing now and why. What are you both studying, what are your aspirations, family life... All kinds of things.

Think of questions you actually want to hear the answers to, things that you'd be happy to answer if someone asked you and for fuck's sakes, don't be false with compliments.
Give them genuinely and without ulterior motive.
Do you honestly think her top looks super cool with her jeans? No? Then don't say you do.

You know sometimes there's a moment with someone where they do something and you find yourself thinking "that person just became beautiful to me for the simplest reason".
It could be the pitch of their voice, the freedom in their laughter, their smile at a time where you didn't expect it but when it happened it was like a sunrise just for you.
Those are the moments you keep compliments for and they most definitely mean a lot more when they're given with feeling and sincerity.


So far, the most useful and inspirational thing in this thread for someone who wants to improve their converstional skills has been posted by MrHoon.

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On July 30 2009 16:02 MrHoon wrote:
I said this numerous times, but I was in the same situation as you when I graduated HS.
I wanted to talk to girls it usually ended up awkward so I felt really bad about myself D:

So when I got to NYC, I decided to train my oral skills so I bought 4 cheeseburgers for hobos and told them I'll give this to him if he talks with me for 30 minutes. Did this about 3 times a week for a full 2 months and I started to learn how to make enjoyable conversations and learn what heroin could do to you lol


That must have taken some balls and I personally think it's a really nice thing to do as well. More people should try it and perhaps start up some kind of hobo-feeding-L2conversation charity.
But with a better name.


But if everyone followed your advice, we would have no more girl threads on TL Far too sensible, useful, and reasonable for the blog section me thinks.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15354 Posts
August 05 2009 02:54 GMT
#72
On July 30 2009 15:24 Arnic wrote:
Those of you who say you wish you could talk about Starcraft or other games/hobbies that you don't think appeal the vast masses of females out there. WHY DON'T YOU TRY IT?
You don't have to give the entire history of the game but you can say "I really enjoy something that challenges me, that makes me think, I play Starcraft and it's incredible because , in a strange way I've found that I've become better/more capable at since I started playing.

I once had two gorgeous young women question me about every possible fact of competitive Starcraft and E-Sports in general for two full hours. I even tried to change the subject as I didn't want to make them uncomfortable but they just kept asking. However, I have to say it was a very singular and strange incident. And Kennigit hates me to this day for that I didn't save their numbers.
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berler
Profile Joined November 2007
United States18 Posts
August 05 2009 03:08 GMT
#73
On July 30 2009 12:28 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
First of all, Im gonna say it again. I have not tried my technique at work place since Im only in my first year of college. I have only tried my technique with girls under 18 and they love it, i guess they just wanna have fun.


If you do your "technique" at a work place, you can be fired for sexual harassment. Don't tell me any bullshit about people doing it all the time and it being okay. People get fired/sued for this shit all the time.

On July 30 2009 12:28 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
Secondly, why are you getting advices from girls lol, I dont want to be sexist or anything

that sounds like an admission to me

On July 30 2009 12:28 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
but I dont think girls know what they want or if they telling you that ,its just what they want you to think. Any girl that want to have fun wouldnt mind touching.

guess I was right...

On July 30 2009 12:28 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
Also if you try and the girl is annoyed at you? she is a bitch. You should just forget about her because you dont want an antisocial girl that is boring and bitchy. Would you want a girl that have fun? because you can have fun with her too! So if you get a negative respond from a girl, just forget about her, you just wanna share your fun with her, if she doesnt want it then she is a bitch and not worth your time to help her. She her end up with some loser and you just have fun.


I think I'd much rather have a girl who loved me and who I could relate to, someone that I could relax with, talk to, and genuinely want to spend the rest of my life with. I feel lucky enough to have found this person, but if I was a jerk like you I'd probably die sad and lonely once I got old.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
August 05 2009 03:16 GMT
#74


no idea if it's setup, but doesn't seem like it

what does this do for you? probably nothing. the guy in the youtube video is confident and is willing to get himself into awkward situations and yet be comfortable in them.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
August 05 2009 03:56 GMT
#75
make jokes
HomieZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
45 Posts
August 07 2009 02:04 GMT
#76
the part 2 video is good, alot of it has to do with confidence not necessarily what to talk about as I am slowly realizing. Also just like in the video, I always imagine alot of fake scenarios that don't exist like, "oh she's too hot, I am not good enough for her". "what if she says no", she probably has a bf etc.." Now, I am just gonna go ahead and talk to them like as if they are my regular guy friends, be confident and be my true self; also use alot of tips mentioned here, relate, compliment, tell stories etc...
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