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Read 'The Game' for some basic psychology info on the courting process if nothing else.
Think of it like this; what do girls like talking about (in general)? They like to talk about themselves, what to wear, how they look, makeup etc. Compliments are great here too.
They also like to talk drama or some kind of bullshit so they can feel you out. If you don't have any drama or inside info to talk about from being friends of friends or whatever, perhaps start by people watching. Just point out how funny/stupid whatever something/someone looks. Build a rapport with them. Don't be afraid to point out a flaw of hers as well (just don't be so direct with it).
If you are relating or holding conversation after this point (should be flowing after a while once the stranger barrier is down), then you can decide what to do with it next.
Questions also help to break the ice as well if you don't know each other at all. Find out what she likes/dislikes, how her day was at work, small talk bullshit.
etc.
PS- Make sure you are not being too reluctant or defensive when chatting, if you do this then she won't realize that you are trying to hook up with her. You gotta take charge and be CONFIDENT, that is key. If she's unsure of something, make the decision for her for example. When the date/night is over setup the next meeting or swap infos. You don't wanna end up in the 'friend' category if that's not where you are trying to get.
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On July 30 2009 06:06 Ichigo1234551 wrote:try language patterning on them man. get the feelings that you want them to feel and then direct the feeling to you. Girls when we talk to them, they get feelings out of it. If you tell a sexy story, then they going to feel horny. Lets say you want her to fall in love with you. So when was the last time you fell in love? Tell me how you felt? blah blah blah Oh i get that same feeling when Im near someone I know that is perfect for me. And when that person touch you, you feel so good you just want to ask them to hold you forever? right? (touch her) some example. + Show Spoiler +
"If you met the guy of your dreams today, would you let him know first
or would you first tell all your girlfriends about this guy you met and
how you think he is THE ONE?"
"I'd know right away but I don't think I could tell him right away."
"But would you tell your girlfriends?"
"I guess."
"Just as I thought. That's interesting because it's a known fact that
guys brag to their friends about the new girl they picked up when they
were rejected yet they never say a word when they really meet a girl
and fall in love. Women on the other hand are the exact opposite. They
get so emotional when they meet their soul mate that they have to share
the news with their girlfriends. The sad thing is that most people fail
to recognize when they meet their soul mates or if they do they don't
have the courage to find out for sure for fear of disappointment.
That's why there are only a few people out there who ever get to
experience true love, because they are not afraid to experienced it. Do
you feel this…(squeeze her hand or at least make some kind of
contact)…is the way it really is?…with me, now…I think most people know
it but still deny it hoping that one day something will just happen out
of the blue, but it will never happen until they just allow it to
happen."
This is Ross Jefferies's pattern.
You need to talk really slow, make her experience the feeling a time she meet someone and too scared to tell them. And then make all that stuff toward you.
Its kinda stupid how guys think they can try and seduce girls with some by trying to connect with them and stuff. Its all about feelings. If you make her feel when she is with her first love, she gonna be with you. And how do you make her feel that way??? by patterning. When you do patterning, your voice need to be seductive and talk slow. Dont worry girls will listen and they will not think you are weird or something. You can tell that they want to hear more by the way they responding if you are doing its right. Also dont be nervous when you doing your patterning, just be normal. The most important thing when talking to a girl is your state of mind. The thing that get you nervous is 2 forces in your brain fighting each other. The first is oh man she is the best, i have to have her. I HAVE TO HAVE HER. the second is. what happened if she rejects me??? how can i move on? you have to understand them and let it go. When i first started doing pick up artist stuff. I didnt know anything about picking up girls. My friend and I were at a festival, and we just walked around for like 4 hours just go up to girls and try to start a conversation and end up getting their phone number. After a while I realised how easy it is to talk to a girl and get their phone number. But that is not everything. Even if you get a girl's phone number, you still cant get the girl. The thing is that girl feels good about giving out their phone number. It build up their social status. Asking phone number is like asking them what time it is. Even a cave man can do it. alright ask me if you need more help
your comment does provide quite an insight, however the whole touching hands stuff just doesn't seem right as in might produce opposite effect like (sexual) harassment. Today, I think I did alot better with the girl at work, we just kept on talking about alot of stuff like her cell phone plan because I seen her talking on cell all the time during breaks, talked about her plan for future, her bf, their life, whether I have a gf and why, etc...... kind of all over the place. She has a bf, so I just use her as practice.
I am trying to build my talking skills before I move onto some hotter women or women I like, sometimes when I see an extreme gorgeous woman, I kind of become frozen, don't know what to do and say. This is not just for dating but also making more "girl friends".
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Its not what you can say to her, its what bullshit you can stand listening to that comes from her!
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get a couple stories. if you don't have any, make them up. make sure the way you tell them is good (get your friends help).
have like 3 ready. look for funny things in your every day life to tell people about.
also, ask about them. but not invasive questions, just like "what do you wanna be when you grow up"
then after they answer mess with them. like if their dream job pays them shit, say "sorry, this relationship..it isnt gonna work. It's not you, its your money."
no matter what you do, ignite some emotion in them. at first it really doesn't matter what kind, then after a while you'll kinda get how to trigger them
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On July 30 2009 08:11 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Read 'The Game' for some basic psychology
but thats all you should take from it. double-post. I really, really do not like this book. do NOT take advice from this book. it sounds good and sensible but it doesnt work. find some guys who are good with girls and either hang out with them, be around them, or straight up ask what they do. you'll get an internal compass for what works and not. you will develop this as long as you always try.
I'm a really weird person. some shit I say is just..really weird. a lot of it could be incredibly akward. but its fine because it doesnt matter what you say, its how you say it. i have the dumbest conversations with people but (in rl lol) people leave me knowing they had an experience.
like..even just thanking a waitress or something, look up at them and into their eyes. add a little pause where youre saying something by not saying anything, and then kinda grin and say "thanks." when you say thanks raise up your eyebrows/squint your eyes a real little bit so they dont know if you actually did.
I dont know exactly how to convey "it", but I feel kind of passionate about this. 2 years ago I was a virgin who hadn't had a real relationship, I was the guy at parties who babied the drunk people. my first 3 years of high school I was the golden child and had a lot of girls who were friends, but thats all they were. I was desperate and miserable, so I started paying real close attention to myself and others.
like 3 basic things you should always do:
-keep relaxed shoulders, at all times
-move deliberately slow
-dont be afraid of eye contact. wait for them to look away first (unless its getting creepy or something). look away and back real quick.
you know what if youve got more questions and stuff pm me. i can tell you right now im not the smoothest guy here, and i certainly dont understand women. but i know exactly what you're feeling, and writing all this down is actually kind of helpful and interesting to me.
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On July 30 2009 08:16 HomieZ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2009 06:06 Ichigo1234551 wrote:try language patterning on them man. get the feelings that you want them to feel and then direct the feeling to you. Girls when we talk to them, they get feelings out of it. If you tell a sexy story, then they going to feel horny. Lets say you want her to fall in love with you. So when was the last time you fell in love? Tell me how you felt? blah blah blah Oh i get that same feeling when Im near someone I know that is perfect for me. And when that person touch you, you feel so good you just want to ask them to hold you forever? right? (touch her) some example. + Show Spoiler +
"If you met the guy of your dreams today, would you let him know first
or would you first tell all your girlfriends about this guy you met and
how you think he is THE ONE?"
"I'd know right away but I don't think I could tell him right away."
"But would you tell your girlfriends?"
"I guess."
"Just as I thought. That's interesting because it's a known fact that
guys brag to their friends about the new girl they picked up when they
were rejected yet they never say a word when they really meet a girl
and fall in love. Women on the other hand are the exact opposite. They
get so emotional when they meet their soul mate that they have to share
the news with their girlfriends. The sad thing is that most people fail
to recognize when they meet their soul mates or if they do they don't
have the courage to find out for sure for fear of disappointment.
That's why there are only a few people out there who ever get to
experience true love, because they are not afraid to experienced it. Do
you feel this…(squeeze her hand or at least make some kind of
contact)…is the way it really is?…with me, now…I think most people know
it but still deny it hoping that one day something will just happen out
of the blue, but it will never happen until they just allow it to
happen."
This is Ross Jefferies's pattern.
You need to talk really slow, make her experience the feeling a time she meet someone and too scared to tell them. And then make all that stuff toward you.
Its kinda stupid how guys think they can try and seduce girls with some by trying to connect with them and stuff. Its all about feelings. If you make her feel when she is with her first love, she gonna be with you. And how do you make her feel that way??? by patterning. When you do patterning, your voice need to be seductive and talk slow. Dont worry girls will listen and they will not think you are weird or something. You can tell that they want to hear more by the way they responding if you are doing its right. Also dont be nervous when you doing your patterning, just be normal. The most important thing when talking to a girl is your state of mind. The thing that get you nervous is 2 forces in your brain fighting each other. The first is oh man she is the best, i have to have her. I HAVE TO HAVE HER. the second is. what happened if she rejects me??? how can i move on? you have to understand them and let it go. When i first started doing pick up artist stuff. I didnt know anything about picking up girls. My friend and I were at a festival, and we just walked around for like 4 hours just go up to girls and try to start a conversation and end up getting their phone number. After a while I realised how easy it is to talk to a girl and get their phone number. But that is not everything. Even if you get a girl's phone number, you still cant get the girl. The thing is that girl feels good about giving out their phone number. It build up their social status. Asking phone number is like asking them what time it is. Even a cave man can do it. alright ask me if you need more help your comment does provide quite an insight, however the whole touching hands stuff just doesn't seem right as in might produce opposite effect like (sexual) harassment. Today, I think I did alot better with the girl at work, we just kept on talking about alot of stuff like her cell phone plan because I seen her talking on cell all the time during breaks, talked about her plan for future, her bf, their life, whether I have a gf and why, etc...... kind of all over the place. She has a bf, so I just use her as practice. I am trying to build my talking skills before I move onto some hotter women or women I like, sometimes when I see an extreme gorgeous woman, I kind of become frozen, don't know what to do and say. This is not just for dating but also making more "girl friends".
Have you try to make the girl feel uncomfortable in a good way? by feeling uncomfortable i mean make her feel out of her secure area and into you. When a girl feel threatened by you, she going to try and get comfortable. An example is just playing with her. she is just a game man.
I dont know if you can do this at your work place but.
a. Scare her when she looks at something, maybe from behind or something.
b. Ask her why, in a playful way. Question her but dont act too weird.
and also really important is try to touch her as much as possible!!!! TOUCH HER EVERY CHANCE YOU GET MAN!!!!!!!!
DOnt be scared, girls love it when you touch them.
You want to be in control. Dont ever let her take control of the situation. You are playing with her man not the other way around.
Also hit the gym
also when you talk to a girl, dont just keep talk about stuff man. You can use fluffing talk but you need to get feelings out of it. If you just talk about random stuff, its like you are just a friend and a weird guy.
I have read The game and other books. But its just a book man, you cant take everything in it. You gotta try and see what fits you best. You cant just listen to everything a person say. Try and experiment.
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On July 30 2009 11:34 Ichigo1234551 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2009 08:16 HomieZ wrote:On July 30 2009 06:06 Ichigo1234551 wrote:try language patterning on them man. get the feelings that you want them to feel and then direct the feeling to you. Girls when we talk to them, they get feelings out of it. If you tell a sexy story, then they going to feel horny. Lets say you want her to fall in love with you. So when was the last time you fell in love? Tell me how you felt? blah blah blah Oh i get that same feeling when Im near someone I know that is perfect for me. And when that person touch you, you feel so good you just want to ask them to hold you forever? right? (touch her) some example. + Show Spoiler +
"If you met the guy of your dreams today, would you let him know first
or would you first tell all your girlfriends about this guy you met and
how you think he is THE ONE?"
"I'd know right away but I don't think I could tell him right away."
"But would you tell your girlfriends?"
"I guess."
"Just as I thought. That's interesting because it's a known fact that
guys brag to their friends about the new girl they picked up when they
were rejected yet they never say a word when they really meet a girl
and fall in love. Women on the other hand are the exact opposite. They
get so emotional when they meet their soul mate that they have to share
the news with their girlfriends. The sad thing is that most people fail
to recognize when they meet their soul mates or if they do they don't
have the courage to find out for sure for fear of disappointment.
That's why there are only a few people out there who ever get to
experience true love, because they are not afraid to experienced it. Do
you feel this…(squeeze her hand or at least make some kind of
contact)…is the way it really is?…with me, now…I think most people know
it but still deny it hoping that one day something will just happen out
of the blue, but it will never happen until they just allow it to
happen."
This is Ross Jefferies's pattern.
You need to talk really slow, make her experience the feeling a time she meet someone and too scared to tell them. And then make all that stuff toward you.
Its kinda stupid how guys think they can try and seduce girls with some by trying to connect with them and stuff. Its all about feelings. If you make her feel when she is with her first love, she gonna be with you. And how do you make her feel that way??? by patterning. When you do patterning, your voice need to be seductive and talk slow. Dont worry girls will listen and they will not think you are weird or something. You can tell that they want to hear more by the way they responding if you are doing its right. Also dont be nervous when you doing your patterning, just be normal. The most important thing when talking to a girl is your state of mind. The thing that get you nervous is 2 forces in your brain fighting each other. The first is oh man she is the best, i have to have her. I HAVE TO HAVE HER. the second is. what happened if she rejects me??? how can i move on? you have to understand them and let it go. When i first started doing pick up artist stuff. I didnt know anything about picking up girls. My friend and I were at a festival, and we just walked around for like 4 hours just go up to girls and try to start a conversation and end up getting their phone number. After a while I realised how easy it is to talk to a girl and get their phone number. But that is not everything. Even if you get a girl's phone number, you still cant get the girl. The thing is that girl feels good about giving out their phone number. It build up their social status. Asking phone number is like asking them what time it is. Even a cave man can do it. alright ask me if you need more help your comment does provide quite an insight, however the whole touching hands stuff just doesn't seem right as in might produce opposite effect like (sexual) harassment. Today, I think I did alot better with the girl at work, we just kept on talking about alot of stuff like her cell phone plan because I seen her talking on cell all the time during breaks, talked about her plan for future, her bf, their life, whether I have a gf and why, etc...... kind of all over the place. She has a bf, so I just use her as practice. I am trying to build my talking skills before I move onto some hotter women or women I like, sometimes when I see an extreme gorgeous woman, I kind of become frozen, don't know what to do and say. This is not just for dating but also making more "girl friends". Have you try to make the girl feel uncomfortable in a good way? by feeling uncomfortable i mean make her feel out of her secure area and into you. When a girl feel threatened by you, she going to try and get comfortable. An example is just playing with her. she is just a game man. I dont know if you can do this at your work place but. a. Scare her when she looks at something, maybe from behind or something. b. Ask her why, in a playful way. Question her but dont act too weird. and also really important is try to touch her as much as possible!!!! TOUCH HER EVERY CHANCE YOU GET MAN!!!!!!!! DOnt be scared, girls love it when you touch them. You want to be in control. Dont ever let her take control of the situation. You are playing with her man not the other way around. Also hit the gym also when you talk to a girl, dont just keep talk about stuff man. You can use fluffing talk but you need to get feelings out of it. If you just talk about random stuff, its like you are just a friend and a weird guy. I have read The game and other books. But its just a book man, you cant take everything in it. You gotta try and see what fits you best. You cant just listen to everything a person say. Try and experiment.
Perhaps you've had a lot of good results from this sort of behavior but I can tell you right now that my girlfriend has told me about plenty of guys at her workplace that do exactly this.
From everything I've heard from her, I'd say there is a good chance they are trying to get with her. However she tells me they just annoy her to no end and she made it a point to cut off contact with them when possible.
Perhaps if you're incredibly smooth you could get away with some of this, but from what I've heard from girls, making physical contact unless you're already close or in a situation that makes it more appropriate (club, dance, etc) then it just turns them off.
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konadora
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Talk about latest gossips
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Just be like, "I dont know how to keep talking with women, I find it rather difficult. Not because I am shy, I just don't find anything useful to talk about. What happens usually is that I start off making some comments, then she answers back then conversation ends."
She'll have a field date with that.
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On July 30 2009 11:51 Phyre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2009 11:34 Ichigo1234551 wrote:On July 30 2009 08:16 HomieZ wrote:On July 30 2009 06:06 Ichigo1234551 wrote:try language patterning on them man. get the feelings that you want them to feel and then direct the feeling to you. Girls when we talk to them, they get feelings out of it. If you tell a sexy story, then they going to feel horny. Lets say you want her to fall in love with you. So when was the last time you fell in love? Tell me how you felt? blah blah blah Oh i get that same feeling when Im near someone I know that is perfect for me. And when that person touch you, you feel so good you just want to ask them to hold you forever? right? (touch her) some example. + Show Spoiler +
"If you met the guy of your dreams today, would you let him know first
or would you first tell all your girlfriends about this guy you met and
how you think he is THE ONE?"
"I'd know right away but I don't think I could tell him right away."
"But would you tell your girlfriends?"
"I guess."
"Just as I thought. That's interesting because it's a known fact that
guys brag to their friends about the new girl they picked up when they
were rejected yet they never say a word when they really meet a girl
and fall in love. Women on the other hand are the exact opposite. They
get so emotional when they meet their soul mate that they have to share
the news with their girlfriends. The sad thing is that most people fail
to recognize when they meet their soul mates or if they do they don't
have the courage to find out for sure for fear of disappointment.
That's why there are only a few people out there who ever get to
experience true love, because they are not afraid to experienced it. Do
you feel this…(squeeze her hand or at least make some kind of
contact)…is the way it really is?…with me, now…I think most people know
it but still deny it hoping that one day something will just happen out
of the blue, but it will never happen until they just allow it to
happen."
This is Ross Jefferies's pattern.
You need to talk really slow, make her experience the feeling a time she meet someone and too scared to tell them. And then make all that stuff toward you.
Its kinda stupid how guys think they can try and seduce girls with some by trying to connect with them and stuff. Its all about feelings. If you make her feel when she is with her first love, she gonna be with you. And how do you make her feel that way??? by patterning. When you do patterning, your voice need to be seductive and talk slow. Dont worry girls will listen and they will not think you are weird or something. You can tell that they want to hear more by the way they responding if you are doing its right. Also dont be nervous when you doing your patterning, just be normal. The most important thing when talking to a girl is your state of mind. The thing that get you nervous is 2 forces in your brain fighting each other. The first is oh man she is the best, i have to have her. I HAVE TO HAVE HER. the second is. what happened if she rejects me??? how can i move on? you have to understand them and let it go. When i first started doing pick up artist stuff. I didnt know anything about picking up girls. My friend and I were at a festival, and we just walked around for like 4 hours just go up to girls and try to start a conversation and end up getting their phone number. After a while I realised how easy it is to talk to a girl and get their phone number. But that is not everything. Even if you get a girl's phone number, you still cant get the girl. The thing is that girl feels good about giving out their phone number. It build up their social status. Asking phone number is like asking them what time it is. Even a cave man can do it. alright ask me if you need more help your comment does provide quite an insight, however the whole touching hands stuff just doesn't seem right as in might produce opposite effect like (sexual) harassment. Today, I think I did alot better with the girl at work, we just kept on talking about alot of stuff like her cell phone plan because I seen her talking on cell all the time during breaks, talked about her plan for future, her bf, their life, whether I have a gf and why, etc...... kind of all over the place. She has a bf, so I just use her as practice. I am trying to build my talking skills before I move onto some hotter women or women I like, sometimes when I see an extreme gorgeous woman, I kind of become frozen, don't know what to do and say. This is not just for dating but also making more "girl friends". Have you try to make the girl feel uncomfortable in a good way? by feeling uncomfortable i mean make her feel out of her secure area and into you. When a girl feel threatened by you, she going to try and get comfortable. An example is just playing with her. she is just a game man. I dont know if you can do this at your work place but. a. Scare her when she looks at something, maybe from behind or something. b. Ask her why, in a playful way. Question her but dont act too weird. and also really important is try to touch her as much as possible!!!! TOUCH HER EVERY CHANCE YOU GET MAN!!!!!!!! DOnt be scared, girls love it when you touch them. You want to be in control. Dont ever let her take control of the situation. You are playing with her man not the other way around. Also hit the gym also when you talk to a girl, dont just keep talk about stuff man. You can use fluffing talk but you need to get feelings out of it. If you just talk about random stuff, its like you are just a friend and a weird guy. I have read The game and other books. But its just a book man, you cant take everything in it. You gotta try and see what fits you best. You cant just listen to everything a person say. Try and experiment. Perhaps you've had a lot of good results from this sort of behavior but I can tell you right now that my girlfriend has told me about plenty of guys at her workplace that do exactly this. From everything I've heard from her, I'd say there is a good chance they are trying to get with her. However she tells me they just annoy her to no end and she made it a point to cut off contact with them when possible. Perhaps if you're incredibly smooth you could get away with some of this, but from what I've heard from girls, making physical contact unless you're already close or in a situation that makes it more appropriate (club, dance, etc) then it just turns them off.
First of all, Im gonna say it again. I have not tried my technique at work place since Im only in my first year of college. I have only tried my technique with girls under 18 and they love it, i guess they just wanna have fun.
Secondly, why are you getting advices from girls lol, I dont want to be sexist or anything but I dont think girls know what they want or if they telling you that ,its just what they want you to think. Any girl that want to have fun wouldnt mind touching. Friends touch each other all the time, she going to think that you are hitting on her because you are touching her??
if you act like it normal? then if she thinks that way then she is weird not you.
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and what about gay guys?? the girls dont feel threatened by gay guys. so she is weird if she acts you differently. it just shows that she cant show friendly expession.
gotta go smoke weed ill edit this when i come back
ok
Only for girls that i just talk to, i always want to be friendly and touch them always. Usually at the mall i would just talk to them and touch them the first time we meet at her arms. nothing too much.
But for girls I know from friends, ( just for me ) I always act kool and relax. I dont give her a lot of attention at first, but like talk to other people first and then her. And then after I feel that she is not threatened by me, i would escalated things.
The thing most guys dont understand is that when a girl feels threatened by you, she will put up a defense. But if you can go around it or make her feel secure enough to put down her defense then youre kool.
I think the reason your girlfriend is responding that way is maybe because the guy does it was a little nervous so it was weird. Also i think she is a little weird. A fun girl should be friendly to everyone.
Also imagine if you are talking to a girl, she keeps you interested when she talk. And also touching you and playing around. Would you think that girl is more fun??? would you feel annoyed? of couse not if you are a social person. If you are an antisocial person than you gonna act like your girlfriend. peace
Also just wanna point out that Im asian and only tried these stuff on asian girls so I dont know about other race. I think they all the same.
Also if you try and the girl is annoyed at you? she is a bitch. You should just forget about her because you dont want an antisocial girl that is boring and bitchy. Would you want a girl that have fun? because you can have fun with her too! So if you get a negative respond from a girl, just forget about her, you just wanna share your fun with her, if she doesnt want it then she is a bitch and not worth your time to help her. She her end up with some loser and you just have fun.
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Explain the story to YellOw, its tragic but yet beautiful and she will melt.
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Talk about anything. Girls will listen to anything if you make it sound interesting. Joke around with her, random shit like that.
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I find it so strange that people find talking to others becomes so difficult when the "others" have boobs. What do girls like? MAKE UP, PONIES, KITTENS, SHOES? YEAH!
Talk about that? Oh sure, but you'd be clawing your own eyes out with boredom if you met someone and that was the extent of their topics of conversation.
Seems there's a tendancy to draw a line between the genders when it comes to conversation, especially at certain ages. You place all the things you're interested in on one side and imagine all the things she'll be interested in, then place them on the other and there's little or no overlap.
Think about that last time you really enjoyed talking to someone, what made that situation memorable for you? Was it humour, was it the topic, did they talk with passion about the subject?
That makes a great difference, you can pretty much grab anyone's attention if you sound like you really care about something when you speak.
Example: If you're talking to a girl and you ask her something like "What's your favorite way of spending time when you're not at school/working/being an astronaut?" She's more likely to give you an indepth answer because it'll be a subject she will care about. Once she's replied, you can ask her questions about anything that piqued your interest or ask her to explain something further.
"You're really into competative make-up application whilst running track? How did you become involved with something like that?"
When people are getting to know each other, there's a kind of parroting that happens, if you ask a question like the above, chances are she'll ask you something similar back because you'll both be wanting to find out what you have in common. There's your chance to show her some passion.
Now, that doesn't mean giving her a lecture or ranting in her face. If you enjoy doing something (it does NOT matter what it is) and you allow that enjoyment to be apparent when you talk about it, you'd be surprised how people will react.
Those of you who say you wish you could talk about Starcraft or other games/hobbies that you don't think appeal the vast masses of females out there. WHY DON'T YOU TRY IT?
You don't have to give the entire history of the game but you can say "I really enjoy something that challenges me, that makes me think, I play Starcraft and it's incredible because <insert personal reasoning as to why>, in a strange way I've found that I've become better/more capable at <insert relevant lifeskill> since I started playing.
You've given quite a bit of information about yourself there without really saying much and you've also sneakily mentioned something that you're good at and things you've improved at which aren't related to the game but should mean something to her.
Once you've said something, give her a chance to think about it and respond before you carry on.
Conversation isn't always a logical route from A-Z so if it goes off topic, let it happen and don't try to force it back.
Regarding the PUA stuff, it's vaguely interesting if you're planning on seducing girls and your ultimate goal is to get laid then leave but generally, if you take it seriously, it's going to fill your head with a whole load of shit you'll be trying to remember when you're talking to whatever girl you're talking to. You'll be trying to analyze her, anaylze yourself, remember what you should be doing with your left knee when she blinks or smiles, you won't be talking naturally and you won't be listening properly either.
One of the easiest and simplest ways of relaxing in someone's company is to think of them as a friend, a good one, from the moment you meet them. You can get rid of all the worry about first impressions and how you're portraying yourself if you imagine that it's not your first encounter.
Treat strangers as friends regularly and you'll find you get used to doing it, it makes you seem approchable and easy to get along with and it works pretty well if you have any kind of job where you have to talk to people you've never met on a daily basis.
The one thing that'll make the most difference, is going out and doing a LOT of this talking stuff.
Don't do it with motives, don't do it to get laid or to find the perfect girl, do it to learn about people, to listen and to enjoy being in the company of others. Spend time with friends and just listen when they talk.
Literally empty your mind and listen, don't sit there trying to think of what you're going to say or come up with something meaningful or witty. Let their conversation flow around you and relax into it. Don't talk to people because you feel like you have to, talk when you have something to say.
Read the news, read up on new innovations, politics, world events, free your own mind with knowledge and expand your horizons, then you can be sure you've got something on hand for any situation.
And for the love of God, stop worrying about talking to girls. I bet you any amount of money that if they're talking to you they're experiencing exactly the same qualms about conversation that you are. We're all people, we all worry and we all have insecurities so don't dwell on those things.
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hey mate, you seem to have the same thoughts i had a few years ago about talking to girls. coming online you get a bit of advice about 'playing the game' . whaaaat everrrr. it never worked for me, no matter how hard i tried. but all hope is not lost! the super sekrit is....... to not care what the girl thinks of your lame hobbies or personality. and let me tell you, after doing it my way i can tell you all the advice in the world about playing the game is a load of crap (or just isnt specific enough to be helpful to people me).
you probably get feelings of incompetence and frustration talking to girls and having conversation stagnate all the time. you know why this happens? its not actually because the girl thinks youre too weird, its because youre being too 'normal' and therefore boring. having a conversation about the weather, future aspirations, what subjects you do in school are all nice and well, but at the end of the day, youre just being generic, like everybody else. why would anyone remember that? let alone the cute girl sitting across the table from you. its the unusual, quirky things people do that make them interesting. yes. even watching a computer game played in korea by progamers. YOU KNOW WHY???? because probably noone else that girl knows does it. but if you never show that side of you in a natural way then you will have problems.
i feel like i ramble too much when i try to give advice, so ill wrap it up here, leaving it at: dont worry about having to be normal around a girl and therefore freak her out... rather, worry about having the courage to show the interesting parts of you.
best of luck =]
EDIT: OH!!! and one last thing, if a girl still isnt being receptive by this point, then she doesnt appreciate you and isnt worth dating... unfortunately, there arent too many really receptive girls out there. youll find them though, chin up!
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MrHoon
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I said this numerous times, but I was in the same situation as you when I graduated HS.
I wanted to talk to girls it usually ended up awkward so I felt really bad about myself D:
So when I got to NYC, I decided to train my oral skills so I bought 4 cheeseburgers for hobos and told them I'll give this to him if he talks with me for 30 minutes. Did this about 3 times a week for a full 2 months and I started to learn how to make enjoyable conversations and learn what heroin could do to you lol
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On July 30 2009 16:02 MrHoon wrote:
I said this numerous times, but I was in the same situation as you when I graduated HS.
I wanted to talk to girls it usually ended up awkward so I felt really bad about myself D:
So when I got to NYC, I decided to train my oral skills so I bought 4 cheeseburgers for hobos and told them I'll give this to him if he talks with me for 30 minutes. Did this about 3 times a week for a full 2 months and I started to learn how to make enjoyable conversations and learn what heroin could do to you lol
lmao, is that a true story 0_O?
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
best hobos live on broadway 96th, in front of mcdonalds :D
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Alright, time for some honest advice. There are 3 skills you need to master, and you will be able to talk to women like no other.
1. Telling a story - Women love to hear your stories. If you have none, make one up. Make sure to throw something funny in there, whether it be a sarcastic remark, you fucking something up in a hilarious way, or just making a joke. The key is to make it long enough that they eat it up, but not so long that it sounds like you love to talk about yourself.
2. Relate to them - Girls love when you relate to them. It makes them feel understood and appreciated. Key phrases are "I know" and "me too", and "I totally agree". You don't even have to actually agree, but just telling them you do gives them a mini-orgasm. This is especially effective DURING their stories or shpeels.
3. Compliment them - No matter what you're talking about, find a way to compliment them. This can be tricky, but even just pausing and saying "sorry, but your eyes are just so gorgeous... anyway, what was I saying?" will make them go gaga.
If you can master these 3 things, she'll end up doing most of the talking in the end, and want to fuck your brains out. Good luck, and happy TWGAGLFI! (Talking With Girls And Getting Laid From It)
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If you are gonna compliment them compliment their hair/clothes(if they have dressed up). Something they have put an effort into. Complimenting on their natural looks isn't as effective. They know their natural look is great.
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On July 30 2009 17:41 McCrank wrote:
If you are gonna compliment them compliment their hair/clothes(if they have dressed up). Something they have put an effort into. Complimenting on their natural looks isn't as effective. They know their natural look is great.
This is actually very very very true.
Here's a good pattern to use:
I love the way you matched your [insert any piece of clothing/accessory above the belt] with your [anything below the belt/shoes]. If they are the same colour, you can say they compliment each other and bring unison to the whole outfit. If they are different colours, you can say they provide nice contrast.
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