talking with girls

On July 29 2009 09:54 YPang wrote:
talk about your tat

On July 29 2009 09:55 Chef wrote:
Start talking about StarCraft and then drift off dreamily when you get to the part of about Lim Yo Hwan.

On July 29 2009 09:57 koOl wrote:
read perez hilton every day so your up to date with the latest jonas brothers and miley cyrus news =]

On July 29 2009 09:58 stroggos wrote:


now now, he didn't ask for a sex change.

On July 29 2009 10:34 Pioneer wrote:

did u hear that taylor swift broke up /w joe jonas??

On July 29 2009 10:19 Manifesto7 wrote:
Ask her for advice on a problem, then sit back and shut up for an hour.

On July 29 2009 09:55 Chef wrote:
Start talking about StarCraft and then drift off dreamily when you get to the part of about Lim Yo Hwan.

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 29 2009 09:52 HomieZ wrote:
How to you keep talking with chicks, I find it rather difficult. Not because I am shy, I just don't find anything useful to talk about. What happens usually is that I start off making some comments, then she answers back then conversation ends. Then I asked another question or make another comment about something, she talks about about it and conversation ends. So I just can't keep initiating conversation from nothing, and it quickly becomes silent and awkward.

My friends tell me just talk about anything, quite frankly there isn't anything to talk about, it will just sound like it is a boring conversation. Especially in a dating situation, this is not good.

On July 29 2009 11:01 Jayme wrote:
Start by treating girls as if they are human...

On July 29 2009 09:55 Chef wrote:
Start talking about StarCraft and then drift off dreamily when you get to the part of about Lim Yo Hwan.

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 29 2009 10:19 Manifesto7 wrote:
Ask her for advice on a problem, then sit back and shut up for an hour.

On July 29 2009 11:01 Jayme wrote:


Start by treating girls as if they are human...

Seriously they respond to the same basic conversations you have with any other guy. Guys like you and in general tend to think of women as something totally different from guys when frankly...they really aren't.

Slightly more emotional sure but for crying out loud just TALK, what's the worst that could happen.

On July 30 2009 06:06 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
try language patterning on them man.
get the feelings that you want them to feel and then direct the feeling to you. Girls when we talk to them, they get feelings out of it. If you tell a sexy story, then they going to feel horny.


Lets say you want her to fall in love with you.
So when was the last time you fell in love? Tell me how you felt?
blah blah blah
Oh i get that same feeling when Im near someone I know that is perfect for me. And when that person touch you, you feel so good you just want to ask them to hold you forever? right?
(touch her)


some example.

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Its kinda stupid how guys think they can try and seduce girls with some by trying to connect with them and stuff. Its all about feelings. If you make her feel when she is with her first love, she gonna be with you. And how do you make her feel that way??? by patterning.


When you do patterning, your voice need to be seductive and talk slow. Dont worry girls will listen and they will not think you are weird or something. You can tell that they want to hear more by the way they responding if you are doing its right. Also dont be nervous when you doing your patterning, just be normal.

The most important thing when talking to a girl is your state of mind. The thing that get you nervous is 2 forces in your brain fighting each other.

The first is oh man she is the best, i have to have her. I HAVE TO HAVE HER.
the second is. what happened if she rejects me??? how can i move on?

you have to understand them and let it go.

When i first started doing pick up artist stuff. I didnt know anything about picking up girls. My friend and I were at a festival, and we just walked around for like 4 hours just go up to girls and try to start a conversation and end up getting their phone number.

After a while I realised how easy it is to talk to a girl and get their phone number. But that is not everything. Even if you get a girl's phone number, you still cant get the girl. The thing is that girl feels good about giving out their phone number. It build up their social status. Asking phone number is like asking them what time it is. Even a cave man can do it.


alright ask me if you need more help

On July 30 2009 08:11 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Read 'The Game' for some basic psychology

On July 30 2009 08:16 HomieZ wrote:


your comment does provide quite an insight, however the whole touching hands stuff just doesn't seem right as in might produce opposite effect like (sexual) harassment. Today, I think I did alot better with the girl at work, we just kept on talking about alot of stuff like her cell phone plan because I seen her talking on cell all the time during breaks, talked about her plan for future, her bf, their life, whether I have a gf and why, etc...... kind of all over the place. She has a bf, so I just use her as practice.

I am trying to build my talking skills before I move onto some hotter women or women I like, sometimes when I see an extreme gorgeous woman, I kind of become frozen, don't know what to do and say. This is not just for dating but also making more "girl friends".

On July 30 2009 11:34 Ichigo1234551 wrote:



Have you try to make the girl feel uncomfortable in a good way? by feeling uncomfortable i mean make her feel out of her secure area and into you. When a girl feel threatened by you, she going to try and get comfortable. An example is just playing with her. she is just a game man.
I dont know if you can do this at your work place but.

a. Scare her when she looks at something, maybe from behind or something.
b. Ask her why, in a playful way. Question her but dont act too weird.
and also really important is try to touch her as much as possible!!!! TOUCH HER EVERY CHANCE YOU GET MAN!!!!!!!!
DOnt be scared, girls love it when you touch them.
You want to be in control. Dont ever let her take control of the situation. You are playing with her man not the other way around.
Also hit the gym


also when you talk to a girl, dont just keep talk about stuff man. You can use fluffing talk but you need to get feelings out of it. If you just talk about random stuff, its like you are just a friend and a weird guy.

I have read The game and other books. But its just a book man, you cant take everything in it. You gotta try and see what fits you best. You cant just listen to everything a person say. Try and experiment.

On July 30 2009 11:51 Phyre wrote:

Perhaps you've had a lot of good results from this sort of behavior but I can tell you right now that my girlfriend has told me about plenty of guys at her workplace that do exactly this.

From everything I've heard from her, I'd say there is a good chance they are trying to get with her. However she tells me they just annoy her to no end and she made it a point to cut off contact with them when possible.

Perhaps if you're incredibly smooth you could get away with some of this, but from what I've heard from girls, making physical contact unless you're already close or in a situation that makes it more appropriate (club, dance, etc) then it just turns them off.

On July 30 2009 16:02 MrHoon wrote:
I said this numerous times, but I was in the same situation as you when I graduated HS.
I wanted to talk to girls it usually ended up awkward so I felt really bad about myself D:

So when I got to NYC, I decided to train my oral skills so I bought 4 cheeseburgers for hobos and told them I'll give this to him if he talks with me for 30 minutes. Did this about 3 times a week for a full 2 months and I started to learn how to make enjoyable conversations and learn what heroin could do to you lol

On July 30 2009 17:41 McCrank wrote:
If you are gonna compliment them compliment their hair/clothes(if they have dressed up). Something they have put an effort into. Complimenting on their natural looks isn't as effective. They know their natural look is great.

On July 30 2009 18:09 Cambium wrote:


This is actually very very very true.

Here's a good pattern to use:

I love the way you matched your [insert any piece of clothing/accessory above the belt] with your [anything below the belt/shoes]. If they are the same colour, you can say they compliment each other and bring unison to the whole outfit. If they are different colours, you can say they provide nice contrast.

On July 30 2009 16:02 MrHoon wrote:
I said this numerous times, but I was in the same situation as you when I graduated HS.
I wanted to talk to girls it usually ended up awkward so I felt really bad about myself D:

So when I got to NYC, I decided to train my oral skills so I bought 4 cheeseburgers for hobos and told them I'll give this to him if he talks with me for 30 minutes. Did this about 3 times a week for a full 2 months and I started to learn how to make enjoyable conversations and learn what heroin could do to you lol

On July 30 2009 20:43 Arnic wrote:



Frank McFakename: "Oh hey gurl! You're looking so awesome today, I love how your hands totally match your feet, they're like the same color! Mmm honey, that pale tan looks so good on you and those shoes. OH GOD, THOSE SHOES! WHEREVER DID YOU GET THEM? Neon green, strap heeled, lace up, thigh high, evening-sneakers are so you. You wanna come buy some eyeliner with me later?".

Betty Swallows: "Are you gay?"

Seriously, think about what you're saying and how you start off talking to someone, how you get to know someone. Would you continue to talk to a girl like this after you'd known her for a week, a month, a year? No... I don't think so.

All these posts verging and more than verging on the pick up stuff, they're so full of assumption.
None of these are going to help someone who has trouble talking to women or making a conversation last longer than 10 minutes improve upon that. Unless you seriously, really, genuinely want to talk about meaningless tripe.

You're talking to a human being, not a photograph, not a painting on a wall.
If you want to talk to the kind of girl who loves nothing more than clothes, then be my guest and good luck to you.

You say to a girl, "Your shoes are blue, that's a wonderful contrast to your yellow scarf".
What's the answer likely to be, unless you're talking to a fashion student?
Is she going to respond in an amazing way with something that leads you both down a path of conversational harmony and wonder or is she going to say "Uh... thanks?"

Do you think you're going to stand out and be remembered for doing that? Think about it, this is the same advice given in every book about "how to get a girl". Go to any forum where the majority of users are male and find the ronery threads or the "OH HALP, FRIENDZONED?!" threads.
Read what people say, it's the same things over and over again.

"Girls love compliments, girls love to be complimented on their clothes. Girls love it when you ask them stuff that means they can talk your goddamn ears off about things you don't give a shit about but if you want to get laid, that's what you need to do."

Now forgive me if I'm wrong but the OP was asking about communication with girls, how to keep a conversation going, how to have and maintain interest.
Shoes? Clothes? Pretty colors? - These are not things to make a conversation last. They're complete and utter waffle and they're also so annoying. People complain that girls are shallow and are into all this stuff, they're not interesting, there's nothing interesting to say yet this is all being encouraged because it's what you're telling each other to talk to them about!

There's really not that much difference between you and any girl you talk to.
You both sleep, eat, piss and fart. You both laugh, get angry or upset, get frustrated, experience happiness, get lonely sometimes but mostly you feel ok and you can be both be stupid or nervous.

Think about the things you always have in common with someone.
Childhood is a good place to start and it's usually a topic you'll both have plenty of stories about.

"What were your dreams when you were younger?" "What did you want to do when you grew up?"
"What's the stupidest/most dangerous/nicest thing you ever did as a child?"

Unless someone had the most hideous childhood ever, there should be something there for you to both talk about and it can lead on to what you're doing now and why. What are you both studying, what are your aspirations, family life... All kinds of things.

Think of questions you actually want to hear the answers to, things that you'd be happy to answer if someone asked you and for fuck's sakes, don't be false with compliments.
Give them genuinely and without ulterior motive.
Do you honestly think her top looks super cool with her jeans? No? Then don't say you do.

You know sometimes there's a moment with someone where they do something and you find yourself thinking "that person just became beautiful to me for the simplest reason".
It could be the pitch of their voice, the freedom in their laughter, their smile at a time where you didn't expect it but when it happened it was like a sunrise just for you.
Those are the moments you keep compliments for and they most definitely mean a lot more when they're given with feeling and sincerity.


So far, the most useful and inspirational thing in this thread for someone who wants to improve their converstional skills has been posted by MrHoon.



That must have taken some balls and I personally think it's a really nice thing to do as well. More people should try it and perhaps start up some kind of hobo-feeding-L2conversation charity.
But with a better name.

On August 05 2009 02:51 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
Gah Im going to my friend's house to smoke weed. I have a crush on her sister. IM SO NERVOUS LOL!!!! didnt sleep last night because i was trying to change my sleeping schedule. can someone tell me how can I stop being nervous??????

On July 30 2009 20:43 Arnic wrote:



Frank McFakename: "Oh hey gurl! You're looking so awesome today, I love how your hands totally match your feet, they're like the same color! Mmm honey, that pale tan looks so good on you and those shoes. OH GOD, THOSE SHOES! WHEREVER DID YOU GET THEM? Neon green, strap heeled, lace up, thigh high, evening-sneakers are so you. You wanna come buy some eyeliner with me later?".

Betty Swallows: "Are you gay?"

Seriously, think about what you're saying and how you start off talking to someone, how you get to know someone. Would you continue to talk to a girl like this after you'd known her for a week, a month, a year? No... I don't think so.

All these posts verging and more than verging on the pick up stuff, they're so full of assumption.
None of these are going to help someone who has trouble talking to women or making a conversation last longer than 10 minutes improve upon that. Unless you seriously, really, genuinely want to talk about meaningless tripe.

You're talking to a human being, not a photograph, not a painting on a wall.
If you want to talk to the kind of girl who loves nothing more than clothes, then be my guest and good luck to you.

You say to a girl, "Your shoes are blue, that's a wonderful contrast to your yellow scarf".
What's the answer likely to be, unless you're talking to a fashion student?
Is she going to respond in an amazing way with something that leads you both down a path of conversational harmony and wonder or is she going to say "Uh... thanks?"

Do you think you're going to stand out and be remembered for doing that? Think about it, this is the same advice given in every book about "how to get a girl". Go to any forum where the majority of users are male and find the ronery threads or the "OH HALP, FRIENDZONED?!" threads.
Read what people say, it's the same things over and over again.

"Girls love compliments, girls love to be complimented on their clothes. Girls love it when you ask them stuff that means they can talk your goddamn ears off about things you don't give a shit about but if you want to get laid, that's what you need to do."

Now forgive me if I'm wrong but the OP was asking about communication with girls, how to keep a conversation going, how to have and maintain interest.
Shoes? Clothes? Pretty colors? - These are not things to make a conversation last. They're complete and utter waffle and they're also so annoying. People complain that girls are shallow and are into all this stuff, they're not interesting, there's nothing interesting to say yet this is all being encouraged because it's what you're telling each other to talk to them about!

There's really not that much difference between you and any girl you talk to.
You both sleep, eat, piss and fart. You both laugh, get angry or upset, get frustrated, experience happiness, get lonely sometimes but mostly you feel ok and you can be both be stupid or nervous.

Think about the things you always have in common with someone.
Childhood is a good place to start and it's usually a topic you'll both have plenty of stories about.

"What were your dreams when you were younger?" "What did you want to do when you grew up?"
"What's the stupidest/most dangerous/nicest thing you ever did as a child?"

Unless someone had the most hideous childhood ever, there should be something there for you to both talk about and it can lead on to what you're doing now and why. What are you both studying, what are your aspirations, family life... All kinds of things.

Think of questions you actually want to hear the answers to, things that you'd be happy to answer if someone asked you and for fuck's sakes, don't be false with compliments.
Give them genuinely and without ulterior motive.
Do you honestly think her top looks super cool with her jeans? No? Then don't say you do.

You know sometimes there's a moment with someone where they do something and you find yourself thinking "that person just became beautiful to me for the simplest reason".
It could be the pitch of their voice, the freedom in their laughter, their smile at a time where you didn't expect it but when it happened it was like a sunrise just for you.
Those are the moments you keep compliments for and they most definitely mean a lot more when they're given with feeling and sincerity.


So far, the most useful and inspirational thing in this thread for someone who wants to improve their converstional skills has been posted by MrHoon.



That must have taken some balls and I personally think it's a really nice thing to do as well. More people should try it and perhaps start up some kind of hobo-feeding-L2conversation charity.
But with a better name.

On July 30 2009 08:11 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Think of it like this; what do girls like talking about (in general)? They like to talk about themselves, what to wear, how they look, makeup etc. Compliments are great here too.
They also like to talk drama or some kind of bullshit so they can feel you out.

On July 30 2009 15:24 Arnic wrote:
Those of you who say you wish you could talk about Starcraft or other games/hobbies that you don't think appeal the vast masses of females out there. WHY DON'T YOU TRY IT?
You don't have to give the entire history of the game but you can say "I really enjoy something that challenges me, that makes me think, I play Starcraft and it's incredible because <insert personal reasoning as to why>, in a strange way I've found that I've become better/more capable at <insert relevant lifeskill> since I started playing.

All these posts verging and more than verging on the pick up stuff, they're so full of assumption.
None of these are going to help someone who has trouble talking to women or making a conversation last longer than 10 minutes improve upon that. Unless you seriously, really, genuinely want to talk about meaningless tripe.

You're talking to a human being, not a photograph, not a painting on a wall.
If you want to talk to the kind of girl who loves nothing more than clothes, then be my guest and good luck to you.

On July 30 2009 06:06 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
get the feelings that you want them to feel and then direct the feeling to you. Girls when we talk to them, they get feelings out of it. If you tell a sexy story, then they going to feel horny.

Its kinda stupid how guys think they can try and seduce girls with some by trying to connect with them and stuff. Its all about feelings. If you make her feel when she is with her first love, she gonna be with you. And how do you make her feel that way??? by patterning.

and also really important is try to touch her as much as possible!!!! TOUCH HER EVERY CHANCE YOU GET MAN!!!!!!!!
DOnt be scared, girls love it when you touch them.
You want to be in control. Dont ever let her take control of the situation. You are playing with her man not the other way around.

Have you try to make the girl feel uncomfortable in a good way? by feeling uncomfortable i mean make her feel out of her secure area and into you. When a girl feel threatened by you, she going to try and get comfortable. An example is just playing with her. she is just a game man.
I dont know if you can do this at your work place but.

Scare her when she looks at something, maybe from behind or something.

Secondly, why are you getting advices from girls lol, I dont want to be sexist or anything but I dont think girls know what they want or if they telling you that ,its just what they want you to think.

Any girl that want to have fun wouldnt mind touching. Friends touch each other all the time, she going to think that you are hitting on her because you are touching her??
if you act like it normal? then if she thinks that way then she is weird not you.

so she is weird if she acts you differently. it just shows that she cant show friendly expession.

I think the reason your girlfriend is responding that way is maybe because the guy does it was a little nervous so it was weird. Also i think she is a little weird. A fun girl should be friendly to everyone.

Also if you try and the girl is annoyed at you? she is a bitch. You should just forget about her because you dont want an antisocial girl that is boring and bitchy. Would you want a girl that have fun? because you can have fun with her too! So if you get a negative respond from a girl, just forget about her, you just wanna share your fun with her, if she doesnt want it then she is a bitch and not worth your time to help her. She her end up with some loser and you just have fun.

On July 30 2009 20:43 Arnic wrote:



Frank McFakename: "Oh hey gurl! You're looking so awesome today, I love how your hands totally match your feet, they're like the same color! Mmm honey, that pale tan looks so good on you and those shoes. OH GOD, THOSE SHOES! WHEREVER DID YOU GET THEM? Neon green, strap heeled, lace up, thigh high, evening-sneakers are so you. You wanna come buy some eyeliner with me later?".

Betty Swallows: "Are you gay?"

Seriously, think about what you're saying and how you start off talking to someone, how you get to know someone. Would you continue to talk to a girl like this after you'd known her for a week, a month, a year? No... I don't think so.

All these posts verging and more than verging on the pick up stuff, they're so full of assumption.
None of these are going to help someone who has trouble talking to women or making a conversation last longer than 10 minutes improve upon that. Unless you seriously, really, genuinely want to talk about meaningless tripe.

You're talking to a human being, not a photograph, not a painting on a wall.
If you want to talk to the kind of girl who loves nothing more than clothes, then be my guest and good luck to you.

You say to a girl, "Your shoes are blue, that's a wonderful contrast to your yellow scarf".
What's the answer likely to be, unless you're talking to a fashion student?
Is she going to respond in an amazing way with something that leads you both down a path of conversational harmony and wonder or is she going to say "Uh... thanks?"

Do you think you're going to stand out and be remembered for doing that? Think about it, this is the same advice given in every book about "how to get a girl". Go to any forum where the majority of users are male and find the ronery threads or the "OH HALP, FRIENDZONED?!" threads.
Read what people say, it's the same things over and over again.

"Girls love compliments, girls love to be complimented on their clothes. Girls love it when you ask them stuff that means they can talk your goddamn ears off about things you don't give a shit about but if you want to get laid, that's what you need to do."

Now forgive me if I'm wrong but the OP was asking about communication with girls, how to keep a conversation going, how to have and maintain interest.
Shoes? Clothes? Pretty colors? - These are not things to make a conversation last. They're complete and utter waffle and they're also so annoying. People complain that girls are shallow and are into all this stuff, they're not interesting, there's nothing interesting to say yet this is all being encouraged because it's what you're telling each other to talk to them about!

There's really not that much difference between you and any girl you talk to.
You both sleep, eat, piss and fart. You both laugh, get angry or upset, get frustrated, experience happiness, get lonely sometimes but mostly you feel ok and you can be both be stupid or nervous.

Think about the things you always have in common with someone.
Childhood is a good place to start and it's usually a topic you'll both have plenty of stories about.

"What were your dreams when you were younger?" "What did you want to do when you grew up?"
"What's the stupidest/most dangerous/nicest thing you ever did as a child?"

Unless someone had the most hideous childhood ever, there should be something there for you to both talk about and it can lead on to what you're doing now and why. What are you both studying, what are your aspirations, family life... All kinds of things.

Think of questions you actually want to hear the answers to, things that you'd be happy to answer if someone asked you and for fuck's sakes, don't be false with compliments.
Give them genuinely and without ulterior motive.
Do you honestly think her top looks super cool with her jeans? No? Then don't say you do.

You know sometimes there's a moment with someone where they do something and you find yourself thinking "that person just became beautiful to me for the simplest reason".
It could be the pitch of their voice, the freedom in their laughter, their smile at a time where you didn't expect it but when it happened it was like a sunrise just for you.
Those are the moments you keep compliments for and they most definitely mean a lot more when they're given with feeling and sincerity.


So far, the most useful and inspirational thing in this thread for someone who wants to improve their converstional skills has been posted by MrHoon.



That must have taken some balls and I personally think it's a really nice thing to do as well. More people should try it and perhaps start up some kind of hobo-feeding-L2conversation charity.
But with a better name.

On July 30 2009 15:24 Arnic wrote:
Those of you who say you wish you could talk about Starcraft or other games/hobbies that you don't think appeal the vast masses of females out there. WHY DON'T YOU TRY IT?
You don't have to give the entire history of the game but you can say "I really enjoy something that challenges me, that makes me think, I play Starcraft and it's incredible because , in a strange way I've found that I've become better/more capable at since I started playing.

On July 30 2009 12:28 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
First of all, Im gonna say it again. I have not tried my technique at work place since Im only in my first year of college. I have only tried my technique with girls under 18 and they love it, i guess they just wanna have fun.

On July 30 2009 12:28 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
Secondly, why are you getting advices from girls lol, I dont want to be sexist or anything

On July 30 2009 12:28 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
but I dont think girls know what they want or if they telling you that ,its just what they want you to think. Any girl that want to have fun wouldnt mind touching.

On July 30 2009 12:28 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
Also if you try and the girl is annoyed at you? she is a bitch. You should just forget about her because you dont want an antisocial girl that is boring and bitchy. Would you want a girl that have fun? because you can have fun with her too! So if you get a negative respond from a girl, just forget about her, you just wanna share your fun with her, if she doesnt want it then she is a bitch and not worth your time to help her. She her end up with some loser and you just have fun.