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[Q] Can racing sims teach you bad habits?

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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 01:31:43
June 04 2009 01:25 GMT
#1
So I'm thinking of buying the Logitech G25 mostly for playing games and partially to get acquainted with driving manual. Now, I plan on getting a manual car in 3 years when I graduate. My primary concern is that I might get bad habits (whatever they may be) from using a racing wheel in sims for a lengthy period of time.

I heard live for speed is pretty realistic as simulations go so I'm planning on playing that. I'd be glad to hear any other recommendations.

I know driving a real car is better for learning but I'm not really in a situation to spend that much time & money atm so that's unfortunately not an option.

tl;dr
Will I pick up bad habits from playing racing sims if I use a racing wheel?

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Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
June 04 2009 01:28 GMT
#2
...no
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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
June 04 2009 01:30 GMT
#3
uh, no, you won't. a racing sim isn't real.
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 04 2009 01:32 GMT
#4
I meant by playing with the logitech g25 racing wheel if that changes anything
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 04 2009 01:40 GMT
#5
you really really wont, the amount of feedback (i.e. reactions to your actions) in real driving should totally override any habits you pick up playing games
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
June 04 2009 01:42 GMT
#6
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
June 04 2009 01:43 GMT
#7
It is completely different, you will be fine.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 01:54:58
June 04 2009 01:53 GMT
#8
You'll probably be running over people, crashing into buildings, and trying to escape the cops, so yeah, I'd say no bad habits.
TommyG
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States102 Posts
June 04 2009 02:06 GMT
#9
driving really isn't that hard.

unless you're female
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24731 Posts
June 04 2009 02:08 GMT
#10
The toy standard transmission will do little to nothing to help you with learning to drive a stick IRL just so you know lol
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
June 04 2009 02:09 GMT
#11
lol this is ridiculous. its a video game dude. rofl
mcgriddle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States253 Posts
June 04 2009 02:22 GMT
#12
you are putting way too much effort in to learning standard... its really not that hard- first time outside of driver's ed I drove manual. First day I was on big roads (and that car had very touchy clutch)
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MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
June 04 2009 02:24 GMT
#13
Might help you get used to when you should use the clutch and shift, but it won't really be like using a real clutch.

It shouldn't hurt, but I don't think it would be that much help either.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
June 04 2009 02:27 GMT
#14
I wouldn't have expected a quality poster to be asking such silly questions. :X

It probably won't affect your real life driving skills, unless you are one of those crazy twelve year old kids who kill people after playing GTA or something. Or that guy that killed his parents because they took his Halo away.
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 04 2009 02:47 GMT
#15
To clarify, my concern is that if I play actual simulations (read: not GTA or NFS), then the timing of shifting or something could be off when I drive a manual irl and I damage my car when I get it.

I knew it was a stretch but I wanted to make sure before I blow $300 for a racing wheel.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
June 04 2009 02:48 GMT
#16
yes

Sean McConnell (Season 2)Read More
The winner of the 2004 online NASCAR video game racing competition, Sean spends up to 5 hours per night racing online. He admits the techniques he perfects in his online racing influences the way he drives on the road. The line between online racing and real driving has become dangerously blurred.

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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 02:56:17
June 04 2009 02:53 GMT
#17
it (the games themselves) teaches good habits too fwiw but i'm not nearly at all qualified (in terms of both manual tranny rl cars + racing sims) enough to give good advice. although, i do have gt5p and a racing wheel (some 150-200 dollar one from logitech or something), there is no clutch and the stick is dinky and stupid (and only has 2 directions, up(shift) and down(shift)). so as far as a "real driving" physiological experience it's way off.

but yes the most i can say is, if anything, if you're not a very technical driver, racing sims will teach you some certain, helpful things. nothing too crazy, but technical stuff like understanding weight distribution of cars/diffs between rwd and fwd, cornering and acceleration/brake timing so as to keep efficient speeds but minimize over/under steer, blah blah blah
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 04 2009 02:56 GMT
#18
On June 04 2009 11:48 fusionsdf wrote:
yes

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Sean McConnell (Season 2)Read More
The winner of the 2004 online NASCAR video game racing competition, Sean spends up to 5 hours per night racing online. He admits the techniques he perfects in his online racing influences the way he drives on the road. The line between online racing and real driving has become dangerously blurred.

http://www.discoverycivilization.ca/shows/castlist.aspx?sid=1064

hahha that's pretty funny

I misread that as "the driving lines in online racing and real driving (racing) has become dangerously blurred"
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24731 Posts
June 04 2009 02:58 GMT
#19
On June 04 2009 11:22 mcgriddle wrote:
you are putting way too much effort in to learning standard... its really not that hard- first time outside of driver's ed I drove manual. First day I was on big roads (and that car had very touchy clutch)

Do you also have a 37 inch penis, 400 iq, and 38 hot girlfriends?

This is not good advice to be giving someone who has never driven a stick before. Most people will at least stall a few times etc when learning from scratch... don't make it sound like you are a moron if you can't drive it almost instantly.
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
June 04 2009 03:00 GMT
#20
On June 04 2009 11:47 infinity21 wrote:
To clarify, my concern is that if I play actual simulations (read: not GTA or NFS), then the timing of shifting or something could be off when I drive a manual irl and I damage my car when I get it.

I knew it was a stretch but I wanted to make sure before I blow $300 for a racing wheel.


driving a standard is soooooooo much different than a video game. For 1, you cant feel your friction point in a video game. In a car, you need to practice finding your friction point with your clutch. This takes a few weeks before you feel really comfortable. A driving sim wont help you at all for this. For example, learning how to NOT stall your car by releasing your clutch and pressing your gas properly. Every car is different, so really there is no way to practice other than being in the car you bought. Now, stopping and going up steep hills is even more tricky, and no videogame will be able to mimic that.

Driving is super easy, so it's hard to make a videogame that mimics that, because if they did, then where would be the challenge in the game? You'd just be drivin around bein bored to shit and back lol.
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