So I'm thinking of buying the Logitech G25 mostly for playing games and partially to get acquainted with driving manual. Now, I plan on getting a manual car in 3 years when I graduate. My primary concern is that I might get bad habits (whatever they may be) from using a racing wheel in sims for a lengthy period of time.

I heard live for speed is pretty realistic as simulations go so I'm planning on playing that. I'd be glad to hear any other recommendations.

I know driving a real car is better for learning but I'm not really in a situation to spend that much time & money atm so that's unfortunately not an option.

tl;dr
Will I pick up bad habits from playing racing sims if I use a racing wheel?

paper

13196 Posts

June 04 2009 01:28 GMT

...no

Dark.Carnival

United States5095 Posts

June 04 2009 01:30 GMT

uh, no, you won't. a racing sim isn't real.

infinity21

Canada6683 Posts

June 04 2009 01:32 GMT

I meant by playing with the logitech g25 racing wheel if that changes anything

SpiritoftheTunA

United States20903 Posts

June 04 2009 01:40 GMT

you really really wont, the amount of feedback (i.e. reactions to your actions) in real driving should totally override any habits you pick up playing games

SuperJongMan

Jamaica11586 Posts

June 04 2009 01:42 GMT

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Lemonwalrus

United States5465 Posts

June 04 2009 01:43 GMT

It is completely different, you will be fine.

Archaic

United States4024 Posts

June 04 2009 01:53 GMT

You'll probably be running over people, crashing into buildings, and trying to escape the cops, so yeah, I'd say no bad habits.

TommyG

United States102 Posts

June 04 2009 02:06 GMT

driving really isn't that hard.

unless you're female

micronesia

United States24753 Posts

June 04 2009 02:08 GMT

#10

The toy standard transmission will do little to nothing to help you with learning to drive a stick IRL just so you know lol

Mastermind

Canada7096 Posts

June 04 2009 02:09 GMT

#11

lol this is ridiculous. its a video game dude. rofl

mcgriddle

United States253 Posts

June 04 2009 02:22 GMT

#12

you are putting way too much effort in to learning standard... its really not that hard- first time outside of driver's ed I drove manual. First day I was on big roads (and that car had very touchy clutch)

MamiyaOtaru

United States1687 Posts

June 04 2009 02:24 GMT

#13

Might help you get used to when you should use the clutch and shift, but it won't really be like using a real clutch.

It shouldn't hurt, but I don't think it would be that much help either.

deathgod6

United States5064 Posts

June 04 2009 02:27 GMT

#14

I wouldn't have expected a quality poster to be asking such silly questions. :X

It probably won't affect your real life driving skills, unless you are one of those crazy twelve year old kids who kill people after playing GTA or something. Or that guy that killed his parents because they took his Halo away.

infinity21

Canada6683 Posts

June 04 2009 02:47 GMT

#15

To clarify, my concern is that if I play actual simulations (read: not GTA or NFS), then the timing of shifting or something could be off when I drive a manual irl and I damage my car when I get it.

I knew it was a stretch but I wanted to make sure before I blow $300 for a racing wheel.

fusionsdf

Canada15390 Posts

June 04 2009 02:48 GMT

#16

yes

Sean McConnell (Season 2)Read More
The winner of the 2004 online NASCAR video game racing competition, Sean spends up to 5 hours per night racing online. He admits the techniques he perfects in his online racing influences the way he drives on the road. The line between online racing and real driving has become dangerously blurred.

http://www.discoverycivilization.ca/shows/castlist.aspx?sid=1064

PanoRaMa

United States5069 Posts

June 04 2009 02:53 GMT

#17

it (the games themselves) teaches good habits too fwiw but i'm not nearly at all qualified (in terms of both manual tranny rl cars + racing sims) enough to give good advice. although, i do have gt5p and a racing wheel (some 150-200 dollar one from logitech or something), there is no clutch and the stick is dinky and stupid (and only has 2 directions, up(shift) and down(shift)). so as far as a "real driving" physiological experience it's way off.

but yes the most i can say is, if anything, if you're not a very technical driver, racing sims will teach you some certain, helpful things. nothing too crazy, but technical stuff like understanding weight distribution of cars/diffs between rwd and fwd, cornering and acceleration/brake timing so as to keep efficient speeds but minimize over/under steer, blah blah blah

infinity21

Canada6683 Posts

June 04 2009 02:56 GMT

#18

On June 04 2009 11:48 fusionsdf wrote:
yes

Show nested quote +

http://www.discoverycivilization.ca/shows/castlist.aspx?sid=1064

hahha that's pretty funny

I misread that as "the driving lines in online racing and real driving (racing) has become dangerously blurred"

micronesia

United States24753 Posts

June 04 2009 02:58 GMT

#19

On June 04 2009 11:22 mcgriddle wrote:
you are putting way too much effort in to learning standard... its really not that hard- first time outside of driver's ed I drove manual. First day I was on big roads (and that car had very touchy clutch)

Do you also have a 37 inch penis, 400 iq, and 38 hot girlfriends?

This is not good advice to be giving someone who has never driven a stick before. Most people will at least stall a few times etc when learning from scratch... don't make it sound like you are a moron if you can't drive it almost instantly.

eXigent.

Canada2419 Posts

June 04 2009 03:00 GMT

#20

On June 04 2009 11:47 infinity21 wrote:
To clarify, my concern is that if I play actual simulations (read: not GTA or NFS), then the timing of shifting or something could be off when I drive a manual irl and I damage my car when I get it.

I knew it was a stretch but I wanted to make sure before I blow $300 for a racing wheel.

driving a standard is soooooooo much different than a video game. For 1, you cant feel your friction point in a video game. In a car, you need to practice finding your friction point with your clutch. This takes a few weeks before you feel really comfortable. A driving sim wont help you at all for this. For example, learning how to NOT stall your car by releasing your clutch and pressing your gas properly. Every car is different, so really there is no way to practice other than being in the car you bought. Now, stopping and going up steep hills is even more tricky, and no videogame will be able to mimic that.

Driving is super easy, so it's hard to make a videogame that mimics that, because if they did, then where would be the challenge in the game? You'd just be drivin around bein bored to shit and back lol.

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