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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 09:29:01
May 19 2009 08:51 GMT
#1
Hi guys. Need your help.

I have a student, who needs to apply to a school that starts this fall. However, he has not (and will not) take the SAT or ACT test. His iBT score is around 65. International first year student. His GPA is pretty shit but he has a HS diploma and has graduated.

Now, I need to find a school that will still allow him to apply. He will be taking the Toefl test again in the coming weeks so...

Criteria:
- No need for SAT scores
- Accepts iBT Toefl score of 61 or higher (that's around 173 in cBT adn 500 for pBT)
- Has a deadline that's July 1, 2009 or later (or rolling) for first year students starting this fall.
- 4 year college (not community)

It doesn't matter where in the States this school is. It doesn't matter how big or small or what kind majors they offer.

If you know of any schools in your area that may fall in this category, PLEASE list here so that I can look into them.

Thanks so much in advance~

***
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 08:58:17
May 19 2009 08:57 GMT
#2
nvm
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AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
May 19 2009 09:03 GMT
#3
With no SAT score and a poor HS GPA (I'm not sure how that iBT score measures up) I think your friend will have a tough time getting into good four year universities. But why not apply to 9 or 10 universities and see what happens? As far as I know, some schools in the cal state system are fairly liberal with admitting students with poor profiles.

Quite a few koreans actually attend SBCC here in santa barbara and then transfer to UCSB or another university after two years. I think getting in there is a safe bet and would be an excellent way to get him on his feet, especially since there is a fairly strong korean community here (my roommate is korean and I see them all the time)

indecision
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Germany818 Posts
May 19 2009 09:08 GMT
#4
consider getting into a German university. It's relatively easy to get in, sometimes even w/o a German test (mostly only for MSc degrees though, here at TU Munich)
After the first few semesters, more than 50% will have dropped out though, so bear that in mind.

The smaller German universities should be even easier to get into. I've seen courses at TU Darmstadt, where you could just appear a week before the semester starts and be like "Hey, I wanna join, let's go..."
indecision
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Germany818 Posts
May 19 2009 09:09 GMT
#5
you won't get very far in your free time w/o German though. There are quite big Chinese communities on most campuses though, but Korean, not so much.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 09:12:58
May 19 2009 09:10 GMT
#6
I'm in the same position.

I have a shit university GPA but my highschool mark is around a 4.0 and even I'm having problems getting into a place :S I wish your friend the best of luck, but the only way is to take university/college courses as an "Open Studies" student to get a decent GPA which the university/colleges will then use to see if they want him or not.

Best of luck.

EDIT: I remember now, my friend was about to take the TOFEL but the university recommended that she take the "MELAB" but I'm not too sure if it's only offered in Canada or the States as well but you could take a look into that. It's actually supposed to be much easier than the TOFEL and the wait period is less as well.
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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
May 19 2009 09:16 GMT
#7
** He isn't my friend. He's a student of mine. Also, I am only searching US universities. This is for my JOB. He's a last minute walk-in student who changed his mind about going to the army and now wants to go abroad to the States for school.**
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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
May 19 2009 09:19 GMT
#8
Sorry about that.

MELAB tests are available in the States and it's an equivalent to the TOFEL but somewhat easier (my friend took the TOFEL and failed and took the MELAB on a later date and passed with a 90%).
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Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 09:25:03
May 19 2009 09:19 GMT
#9
If your student were to come down to southern california I think the best community college he can transfer quick should be SMC(santa monica college). I transferred out of SMC with in 2 1/2(1/2 cause I played around too much) years. Theres nothing much he can do in southern california without SAT and ACT. Theres a fair amount of Koreans(not those white wash ones) that goes there so he can fit in well.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 19 2009 09:21 GMT
#10
On May 19 2009 18:09 indecision wrote:
you won't get very far in your free time w/o German though. There are quite big Chinese communities on most campuses though, but Korean, not so much.


I go to school at UW Madison and we seem to have a much larger Korean community in this city than any other nationality but I can't offer empirical evidence. I took a few classes at the downtown community college (which offers guaranteed admission to UW) and there were always a couple of Korean dudes hanging out, so that might be an option worth looking into.
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sk`
Profile Joined November 2008
Japan442 Posts
May 19 2009 09:21 GMT
#11
http://www.foothill.fhda.edu/index.php

Several exchange students from Korea or Japan go here. I tutored here for a short period. They transfer up to 4 year colleges after you finish the 2 year program.
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caldo149
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States469 Posts
May 19 2009 09:43 GMT
#12
I agree with AcrossFiveJulys, Santa Barbara City College and then a transfer to UCSB seems like a good plan. I'm a student at UCSB right now and the Korean community is pretty strong. Plus, the SB area is really nice =)
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Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
May 19 2009 09:48 GMT
#13
UMontana doesn't have a real deadline so I think your student can still apply. SAT is not required. The school only require 61 on iBT.
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vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
May 19 2009 09:53 GMT
#14
With his iBT where it stands and the criterion, you're going to have a tough time. I checked my school as a reference, since we (amazingly and mind-bogglingly) have a rather large international student body, and are fairly easy to get into (my roommate graduated HS with a 66, ~1350/2400 on SATs and only did Cross Country/Track in HS). They require a 70 on the iBT alone apparently to even be considered. Like I said, I thought we were a fairly lowball qualifier school to get into.
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Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
May 19 2009 09:55 GMT
#15
Has he considered going to community college first then transfer? If so Mesa College in San Diego has a guaranteed transfer program to UCSD (of course you still have to pass your classes). But afaik this is the best deal for ppl without a good high school profile, considering how good a school UCSD is.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
May 19 2009 10:14 GMT
#16
I studied in the US and I didn't need to do the SAT or nothing. Just an IELTS or something to prove I could speak fluent english. I got the impression this goes for all schools that take exchange students.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7659 Posts
May 19 2009 10:20 GMT
#17
On May 19 2009 18:55 Hydrolisko wrote:
Has he considered going to community college first then transfer? If so Mesa College in San Diego has a guaranteed transfer program to UCSD (of course you still have to pass your classes). But afaik this is the best deal for ppl without a good high school profile, considering how good a school UCSD is.

ya susie I know its not what your looking for, but alot of the schools (at least in california that I know of that are jr. colleges) have a university that will auto-accept after 2 years.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 10:52:21
May 19 2009 10:48 GMT
#18
July 1st, 2009? o_O That's late as hell, Cornell's deadline was Jan 2nd, Ithaca was Feb 1st, Rutgers' "recommended" end date was April 1st (although it is rolling, you will have to make sure it's still available).

Try Rutgers (NJ). It's one of the best state schools, there are plenty of fluent Korean students, it is pretty close to almost everything that is of interest - NYC, mountains for snowboarding, the beach, and the dorms are in a pretty low-crime section of the cities in the area. A lot of my friends go there, and I was going to as well. The acceptance rate is pretty good and the GPA requirement is not that high.

The best thing for him to do imo is apply for Continuing Education (extramural studies in some colleges). This allows him to pay per credit and get college credits, show that he is a willing student, and show allegiance to the college of his choice. They take pretty much anyone for this program, in almost any college. I don't think there is a chance of scholarship, but given his GPA it seems unlikely for regular college anyways. In that time he can practice English, determine whether he likes the college he is going to, get his bearings in the USA, get some friends, all with 2-3 courses as opposed to the norm of 5-6 per semester (I think? At least that's what most people I know are doing), so he has plenty of free time to study harder to get good grades to impress people on his application for Fall '10 or even Spring '10. This gives him a wider variety of choices for colleges (since not many are still accepting for Fall '09), a low-pressure environment, and the above benefits [: Also gives him more time to write specified applications if necessary.

Btw, something I've only seen this year is the commonapp, he should look into it. Many schools accept it and it's convenient, saves time, and keeps you up to date where many colleges fail to do so [:

https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/default.aspx

EDIT: Also, while he is in the extramural program, he REALLY should look into taking the SATs or ACT. It's pretty damn important. The free time and his being in America would make this much easier.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
May 19 2009 10:51 GMT
#19
On May 19 2009 19:20 AttackZerg wrote:
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On May 19 2009 18:55 Hydrolisko wrote:
Has he considered going to community college first then transfer? If so Mesa College in San Diego has a guaranteed transfer program to UCSD (of course you still have to pass your classes). But afaik this is the best deal for ppl without a good high school profile, considering how good a school UCSD is.

ya susie I know its not what your looking for, but alot of the schools (at least in california that I know of that are jr. colleges) have a university that will auto-accept after 2 years.

Rutgers does this with MCC (Middlesex Community College) as long as you have higher than a C or B- or something. This saves money for the same eventual degree, and would be a lot easier to get into since CC's usually accept up to last minute.
Peace~
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
May 19 2009 11:01 GMT
#20
Int. students can get into Aussie unis EZEZ + Show Spoiler +
judging by my classes
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