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Gnojfatelob
Profile Joined April 2008
Belgium216 Posts
April 08 2009 01:36 GMT
#21
i love how any post can turn into a flamefest racewar, totally of topic, trolling ftw.

But about your rep, just report it and game gets turned around and if he recieves another complaint he'll get banned. Its only 75 points.
Probably the best starcraft player in the world
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 01:42:08
April 08 2009 01:41 GMT
#22
On April 08 2009 10:35 Atrioc wrote:
To be fair, the argument isnt that someone shouldnt be able to be good with low APM, its that the only people who seem to do it are Protoss.

You'll find a lot of really low APM Protoss players in the C-ranks, but a 110 APM Terran (or Zerg)with no hotkeys dont seem to cut it.

I've have seen a few high level Zergs and Terrans with low apm, actually.

But your point still stands, there are obviously many more Protoss players who are able to acheive this. I understand their complaints, my point is that apm is not the only measure of skill. I won't take this any further, it's a dumb arguement and I'm actually sorry I got into it again now.
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
April 08 2009 01:42 GMT
#23
On April 08 2009 10:36 inertinept wrote:
hey lets not turn this retarded blog into a flame k?

i know im a 1a2a3a protoss nub or whatever ppl call it these days

/thread


I'll give you a little love. You don't even use 1a2a3a cause you don't hotkey at all!

Nah, you get C/C+ consistently cause you use really smart tricky builds but don't get much farther because you're slow.

Definitely report this. Even if it's a glitch - which seems odd - you should get your points back for it.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
April 08 2009 01:47 GMT
#24
On April 08 2009 10:42 maareek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2009 10:36 inertinept wrote:
hey lets not turn this retarded blog into a flame k?

i know im a 1a2a3a protoss nub or whatever ppl call it these days

/thread


I'll give you a little love. You don't even use 1a2a3a cause you don't hotkey at all!

I actually lolled. aaa will be the new 1a2a3a.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
April 08 2009 01:54 GMT
#25
that you maareek? its proxi.iron
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
April 08 2009 01:56 GMT
#26
On April 08 2009 10:24 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2009 10:05 d1v wrote:
On April 08 2009 10:01 Shikyo wrote:
On April 08 2009 09:49 anderoo wrote:
it fucking depresses me that you got to C+ without hotkeys

btw that guy was full of shit, he saw the cannon, and attacked into a line of zeals with 2 DTs anyway? totally hacking, or a very fucking convenient glitch and a very stupid yet lucky opponent

110 apm C+ Protoss. I don't see anything unordinary in that.


Yet still people are flaming Artosis when he talks about Terran being harder than Protoss..


probably because you'd have to have the IQ of a dog to thank that how hard a race is based on correlative apm

*starts a fight*

Not just APM...but mechanics as well. C+ no hotkeys??

T_T.
Hello
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
April 08 2009 01:56 GMT
#27
This was definitely a hack of some sort. I mean it just suddenly became unpowered? wtf?
U Gotta Skate.
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
April 08 2009 02:02 GMT
#28
kids so racist... ALL RACES ARE CREATED EQUAL BY THE LORD CREATOR(BLIZZARD)
@ostojiy
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 08 2009 02:20 GMT
#29
On April 08 2009 10:28 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2009 10:05 d1v wrote:
On April 08 2009 10:01 Shikyo wrote:
On April 08 2009 09:49 anderoo wrote:
it fucking depresses me that you got to C+ without hotkeys

btw that guy was full of shit, he saw the cannon, and attacked into a line of zeals with 2 DTs anyway? totally hacking, or a very fucking convenient glitch and a very stupid yet lucky opponent

110 apm C+ Protoss. I don't see anything unordinary in that.


Yet still people are flaming Artosis when he talks about Terran being harder than Protoss..

If apm were the only measure of skill, Starcraft would not be a real time STRATEGY game. It would be a real time clicking game and I would not play it because it would be a dull, button-mash fest that relied on nothing but mechanics and memorization of patterns and cycles. It would be DDR in space.

Please get over your smug sense of superiority.

Edit: Yeah, I know this has been rehashed 4000 times, but I can't help myself when I see stupid shit. I have much higher apm than 110 and I have yet to break D+. I find it incredibly insulting that some people aren't content to regard Protoss players as their peers because of the natural human instinct to pick apart some aspect of any group as being somehow inferior to set an inclusionary standard.

On topic, I played an iccup game (both of us with anti-hack on) where my opponent's dragoons just outside my natural started firing on a pylon i just warped in at the edge of my cliff. He didn't have any obs around. Could this be anything other than successfully getting around the antihack?


god

if you only knew how closely that mirrored the early sc2 forum posts by bnet forumers
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
April 08 2009 04:32 GMT
#30
On April 08 2009 10:28 3clipse wrote:
If apm were the only measure of skill, Starcraft would not be a real time STRATEGY game. It would be a real time clicking game and I would not play it because it would be a dull, button-mash fest that relied on nothing but mechanics and memorization of patterns and cycles. It would be DDR in space.


Button-mash fest? Nothing but mechanichs?

Oh I've heard that before:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=70583
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
April 08 2009 04:42 GMT
#31
Wow, that was ridiculous. It just unpowered for no reason. Never seen that kind of thing before.
Sullifam
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
April 08 2009 04:47 GMT
#32
On April 08 2009 10:28 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2009 10:05 d1v wrote:
On April 08 2009 10:01 Shikyo wrote:
On April 08 2009 09:49 anderoo wrote:
it fucking depresses me that you got to C+ without hotkeys

btw that guy was full of shit, he saw the cannon, and attacked into a line of zeals with 2 DTs anyway? totally hacking, or a very fucking convenient glitch and a very stupid yet lucky opponent

110 apm C+ Protoss. I don't see anything unordinary in that.


Yet still people are flaming Artosis when he talks about Terran being harder than Protoss..

If apm were the only measure of skill, Starcraft would not be a real time STRATEGY game. It would be a real time clicking game and I would not play it because it would be a dull, button-mash fest that relied on nothing but mechanics and memorization of patterns and cycles. It would be DDR in space.

Please get over your smug sense of superiority.

Edit: Yeah, I know this has been rehashed 4000 times, but I can't help myself when I see stupid shit. I have much higher apm than 110 and I have yet to break D+. I find it incredibly insulting that some people aren't content to regard Protoss players as their peers because of the natural human instinct to pick apart some aspect of any group as being somehow inferior to set an inclusionary standard.

On topic, I played an iccup game (both of us with anti-hack on) where my opponent's dragoons just outside my natural started firing on a pylon i just warped in at the edge of my cliff. He didn't have any obs around. Could this be anything other than successfully getting around the antihack?


No, sometimes if something is on the very edge of a cliff you can somehow see it, I've been able to see pylons before and I don't hack
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
April 08 2009 05:00 GMT
#33
On April 08 2009 13:47 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2009 10:28 3clipse wrote:
On April 08 2009 10:05 d1v wrote:
On April 08 2009 10:01 Shikyo wrote:
On April 08 2009 09:49 anderoo wrote:
it fucking depresses me that you got to C+ without hotkeys

btw that guy was full of shit, he saw the cannon, and attacked into a line of zeals with 2 DTs anyway? totally hacking, or a very fucking convenient glitch and a very stupid yet lucky opponent

110 apm C+ Protoss. I don't see anything unordinary in that.


Yet still people are flaming Artosis when he talks about Terran being harder than Protoss..

If apm were the only measure of skill, Starcraft would not be a real time STRATEGY game. It would be a real time clicking game and I would not play it because it would be a dull, button-mash fest that relied on nothing but mechanics and memorization of patterns and cycles. It would be DDR in space.

Please get over your smug sense of superiority.

Edit: Yeah, I know this has been rehashed 4000 times, but I can't help myself when I see stupid shit. I have much higher apm than 110 and I have yet to break D+. I find it incredibly insulting that some people aren't content to regard Protoss players as their peers because of the natural human instinct to pick apart some aspect of any group as being somehow inferior to set an inclusionary standard.

On topic, I played an iccup game (both of us with anti-hack on) where my opponent's dragoons just outside my natural started firing on a pylon i just warped in at the edge of my cliff. He didn't have any obs around. Could this be anything other than successfully getting around the antihack?


No, sometimes if something is on the very edge of a cliff you can somehow see it, I've been able to see pylons before and I don't hack


This happens when map makers copy/paste high ground/low ground onto low ground/high ground so although in game it's low ground versus high ground it's really high ground versus high ground. It's funky and happens in certain areas of certain maps.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 05:40:48
April 08 2009 05:39 GMT
#34
On April 08 2009 13:32 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2009 10:28 3clipse wrote:
If apm were the only measure of skill, Starcraft would not be a real time STRATEGY game. It would be a real time clicking game and I would not play it because it would be a dull, button-mash fest that relied on nothing but mechanics and memorization of patterns and cycles. It would be DDR in space.


Button-mash fest? Nothing but mechanichs?

Oh I've heard that before:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=70583

You don't have very good reading comprehension. They are stating in that article that Starcraft's mechanics are a detriment to strategy. I am saying that Starcraft is a perfect game which IS NOT defined only by mechanics.

Boiled down, we are actually argueing near-opposite points.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
April 08 2009 05:53 GMT
#35
I didn't watch the video, but if this is about another pylon going down briefly, they do that. There's some statistic but I don't know what it is. Its pretty small
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
April 08 2009 23:16 GMT
#36
more iccup lolz

http://repdepot.net/download.php?type=rep&id=10337&name=proloser vs Agent)inept.rep

this has to be one of the closest/weirdest pvps ever.
and woe is me it doesnt report at all this time. i suck badly enough as it is and the iccup server just holdin me down!
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
April 09 2009 10:40 GMT
#37
It is quite strange. It does not look like he's maphacking, but on the other hand without the disabled cannon his attack would have been stupid. I didn't see any suspicious actions at the time the cannon unpowered, but I might have missed something.
The strange thing is, a few weeks ago I got a hackreport where supposedly large parts of the base unpowered. Sadly no replay available of that one -_-
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
April 09 2009 14:13 GMT
#38
In WSL (circa 2003), Breakdown (German Zerg) had 99 apm and was near the top of the ladder. Talk all you want about the evolution of the game, but D rank players still have absolutely no concept of what they are doing and I'm sure that the Breakdown of that era could easily make C+ or better on ICCup today. Hell, Mondi and Testie were way under 200 apm too.

It may be easier for Protoss to just attack move their armies and get "okay" results, but it's possible to play any race with a (relatively) low apm style at non-progamer levels.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
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