EPTWatch my cannon. he gets vision with the dts, unpowers it, then runs the dts in. what the fuck?
Am I seeing things...or is this a hack?
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inertinept
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Watch my cannon. he gets vision with the dts, unpowers it, then runs the dts in. what the fuck? | ||
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Lucktar
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Bond(i2)
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inertinept
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d1v
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Lucktar
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Mikilatov
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ilistis
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Nytefish
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dragonmax
United States131 Posts
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
btw that guy was full of shit, he saw the cannon, and attacked into a line of zeals with 2 DTs anyway? totally hacking, or a very fucking convenient glitch and a very stupid yet lucky opponent | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 08 2009 09:49 anderoo wrote: it fucking depresses me that you got to C+ without hotkeys btw that guy was full of shit, he saw the cannon, and attacked into a line of zeals with 2 DTs anyway? totally hacking, or a very fucking convenient glitch and a very stupid yet lucky opponent 110 apm C+ Protoss. I don't see anything unordinary in that. | ||
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
On April 08 2009 10:01 Shikyo wrote: 110 apm C+ Protoss. I don't see anything unordinary in that. Yet still people are flaming Artosis when he talks about Terran being harder than Protoss.. | ||
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Elian
United States129 Posts
Really, really weird, but as someone else said... that was probably the worst time to attack with 2 DTs given the normal situation. Maybe a hack? He does have vision of the cannon when it unpowers. It would seem that way. | ||
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Grobyc
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Deleted User 3420
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On April 08 2009 10:05 d1v wrote: Yet still people are flaming Artosis when he talks about Terran being harder than Protoss.. probably because you'd have to have the IQ of a dog to thank that how hard a race is based on correlative apm *starts a fight* | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
On April 08 2009 10:05 d1v wrote: Yet still people are flaming Artosis when he talks about Terran being harder than Protoss.. If apm were the only measure of skill, Starcraft would not be a real time STRATEGY game. It would be a real time clicking game and I would not play it because it would be a dull, button-mash fest that relied on nothing but mechanics and memorization of patterns and cycles. It would be DDR in space. Please get over your smug sense of superiority. Edit: Yeah, I know this has been rehashed 4000 times, but I can't help myself when I see stupid shit. I have much higher apm than 110 and I have yet to break D+. I find it incredibly insulting that some people aren't content to regard Protoss players as their peers because of the natural human instinct to pick apart some aspect of any group as being somehow inferior to set an inclusionary standard. On topic, I played an iccup game (both of us with anti-hack on) where my opponent's dragoons just outside my natural started firing on a pylon i just warped in at the edge of my cliff. He didn't have any obs around. Could this be anything other than successfully getting around the antihack? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On April 08 2009 10:28 3clipse wrote: If apm were the only measure of skill, Starcraft would not be a real time STRATEGY game. It would be a real time clicking game and I would not play it because it would be a dull, button-mash fest that relied on nothing but mechanics and memorization of patterns and cycles. It would be DDR in space. Please get over your smug sense of superiority. wow that was an impressively good post imo | ||
Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
On April 08 2009 10:28 3clipse wrote: If apm were the only measure of skill, Starcraft would not be a real time STRATEGY game. It would be a real time clicking game and I would not play it because it would be a dull, button-mash fest that relied on nothing but mechanics and memorization of patterns and cycles. It would be DDR in space. Please get over your smug sense of superiority. To be fair, the argument isnt that someone shouldnt be able to be good with low APM, its that the only people who seem to do it are Protoss. You'll find a lot of really low APM Protoss players in the C-ranks, but a 110 APM Terran (or Zerg)with no hotkeys dont seem to cut it. | ||
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inertinept
Bangladesh1195 Posts
i know im a 1a2a3a protoss nub or whatever ppl call it these days /thread | ||
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Gnojfatelob
Belgium216 Posts
But about your rep, just report it and game gets turned around and if he recieves another complaint he'll get banned. Its only 75 points. | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
On April 08 2009 10:35 Atrioc wrote: To be fair, the argument isnt that someone shouldnt be able to be good with low APM, its that the only people who seem to do it are Protoss. You'll find a lot of really low APM Protoss players in the C-ranks, but a 110 APM Terran (or Zerg)with no hotkeys dont seem to cut it. I've have seen a few high level Zergs and Terrans with low apm, actually. But your point still stands, there are obviously many more Protoss players who are able to acheive this. I understand their complaints, my point is that apm is not the only measure of skill. I won't take this any further, it's a dumb arguement and I'm actually sorry I got into it again now. | ||
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maareek
United States2042 Posts
On April 08 2009 10:36 inertinept wrote: hey lets not turn this retarded blog into a flame k? i know im a 1a2a3a protoss nub or whatever ppl call it these days /thread I'll give you a little love. You don't even use 1a2a3a cause you don't hotkey at all!  Nah, you get C/C+ consistently cause you use really smart tricky builds but don't get much farther because you're slow. Definitely report this. Even if it's a glitch - which seems odd - you should get your points back for it. | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
On April 08 2009 10:42 maareek wrote: I'll give you a little love. You don't even use 1a2a3a cause you don't hotkey at all! I actually lolled. aaa will be the new 1a2a3a. | ||
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inertinept
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On April 08 2009 10:24 travis wrote: probably because you'd have to have the IQ of a dog to thank that how hard a race is based on correlative apm *starts a fight* Not just APM...but mechanics as well. C+ no hotkeys?? T_T. | ||
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ghermination
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ThE_OsToJiY
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fusionsdf
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On April 08 2009 10:28 3clipse wrote: If apm were the only measure of skill, Starcraft would not be a real time STRATEGY game. It would be a real time clicking game and I would not play it because it would be a dull, button-mash fest that relied on nothing but mechanics and memorization of patterns and cycles. It would be DDR in space. Please get over your smug sense of superiority. Edit: Yeah, I know this has been rehashed 4000 times, but I can't help myself when I see stupid shit. I have much higher apm than 110 and I have yet to break D+. I find it incredibly insulting that some people aren't content to regard Protoss players as their peers because of the natural human instinct to pick apart some aspect of any group as being somehow inferior to set an inclusionary standard. On topic, I played an iccup game (both of us with anti-hack on) where my opponent's dragoons just outside my natural started firing on a pylon i just warped in at the edge of my cliff. He didn't have any obs around. Could this be anything other than successfully getting around the antihack? god if you only knew how closely that mirrored the early sc2 forum posts by bnet forumers | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On April 08 2009 10:28 3clipse wrote: If apm were the only measure of skill, Starcraft would not be a real time STRATEGY game. It would be a real time clicking game and I would not play it because it would be a dull, button-mash fest that relied on nothing but mechanics and memorization of patterns and cycles. It would be DDR in space. Button-mash fest? Nothing but mechanichs? Oh I've heard that before: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=70583 | ||
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ghostWriter
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
On April 08 2009 10:28 3clipse wrote: If apm were the only measure of skill, Starcraft would not be a real time STRATEGY game. It would be a real time clicking game and I would not play it because it would be a dull, button-mash fest that relied on nothing but mechanics and memorization of patterns and cycles. It would be DDR in space. Please get over your smug sense of superiority. Edit: Yeah, I know this has been rehashed 4000 times, but I can't help myself when I see stupid shit. I have much higher apm than 110 and I have yet to break D+. I find it incredibly insulting that some people aren't content to regard Protoss players as their peers because of the natural human instinct to pick apart some aspect of any group as being somehow inferior to set an inclusionary standard. On topic, I played an iccup game (both of us with anti-hack on) where my opponent's dragoons just outside my natural started firing on a pylon i just warped in at the edge of my cliff. He didn't have any obs around. Could this be anything other than successfully getting around the antihack? No, sometimes if something is on the very edge of a cliff you can somehow see it, I've been able to see pylons before and I don't hack | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On April 08 2009 13:47 NoobsOfWrath wrote: No, sometimes if something is on the very edge of a cliff you can somehow see it, I've been able to see pylons before and I don't hack This happens when map makers copy/paste high ground/low ground onto low ground/high ground so although in game it's low ground versus high ground it's really high ground versus high ground. It's funky and happens in certain areas of certain maps. | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
On April 08 2009 13:32 h3r1n6 wrote: Button-mash fest? Nothing but mechanichs? Oh I've heard that before: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=70583 You don't have very good reading comprehension. They are stating in that article that Starcraft's mechanics are a detriment to strategy. I am saying that Starcraft is a perfect game which IS NOT defined only by mechanics. Boiled down, we are actually argueing near-opposite points. | ||
cgrinker
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inertinept
Bangladesh1195 Posts
http://repdepot.net/download.php?type=rep&id=10337&name=proloser vs Agent)inept.rep this has to be one of the closest/weirdest pvps ever. and woe is me it doesnt report at all this time. i suck badly enough as it is and the iccup server just holdin me down! | ||
MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
The strange thing is, a few weeks ago I got a hackreport where supposedly large parts of the base unpowered. Sadly no replay available of that one -_- | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
It may be easier for Protoss to just attack move their armies and get "okay" results, but it's possible to play any race with a (relatively) low apm style at non-progamer levels. | ||
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