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On April 01 2009 09:22 Falcynn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 20:06 PH wrote:
Weed costs more, has a LOT more tar than tobacco, and is illegal to boot. Can't really argue with the cost and legality, but weed smokers generally don't smoke weed in the same quantity as cigarette smokers smoke cigarettes, so it pretty much evens out. Edit: that is a horribly crafted sentence, but I hope it makes sense still =/
That really depends...I've roomed with several stoners, and I used to be quite close to some slingers back in my hometown. They probably smoked an equivalent of 2-3 packs a day...of course they aren't really recreational weed smokers who just bake with friends are parties now and then, but it's not fair to compare people like them to habitual cigarette smokers either.
I will go through a pack in ~3 days.
On April 01 2009 14:33 CapO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2009 05:17 PH wrote:On March 31 2009 22:05 FirstBorn wrote:
I fail the understand the principle of paying money to gradually destroy your lungs and reduce your lifespam.
Anyway, I'm understanding cigarettes price is going up all over the world. The so called economical chrysis. You won't understand if you don't smoke. I absolutely hate it when people who don't smoke try to tell me stuff about how bad it is for me and how I should quit and all that. They don't understand any of it...lol. i understand what FirstBorn is trying to say. here's a question, what made you wanna smoke cigarettes in the first place? as far as i know, most people start smoking because they wanna look "cool", and then eventually they get addicted to it. i'm pretty sure you didn't start smoking cigarettes because you knew it was gonna make you relax.. if you did, thats one of the dumbest shit i've ever heard. there are different ways around it than gradually killing yourself and potentially others with second hand smoking. resorting to cigarettes for relaxing is lol. it's the nicotine, not that you're naturally like this.
I'll admit, I started due to peer pressure. My new friends in college all smoked, and I started smoking one every time we drank...then I bought my first pack a while later, and it snowballed from there. I've been trying to cut down, and as aforementioned, I go through packs in 3-4 days now...the lowest I've been since I started was like 3 cigs a day though.
I also understand what he was trying to say, but you only say stuff like that to people who have already started as you wonder why they don't quit. I don't think it looks cool...I don't even smoke that much in public...mostly at home from my balcony.
It was definitely a dumb idea to start.
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Have any of you guys tried snus? or is the product even availiable in your areas?
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On April 01 2009 10:13 GrayArea wrote:
One of the main benefits that I can see for raising cigarette prices is that it will prevent future kids from getting involved with it. Some of you have said that it does nothing to the current smokers who still continue to buy cigarettes regardless of the increases in prices, but the main impact would be to prevent future generations from getting involved. So the long term effects of doing it are pretty good.
In general though, I think it prevents people who haven't smoked before, but are potential smokers, to reconsider given the fact of high prices which will prevent them from getting addicted. For the current addicts though, well, the tax will help the economy... =/
Not likely. Kids will still bum their first cigarettes/buy cigarettes for a dollar of older kids.
In fact.. All my friends who probably never would have started smoking cigarettes started smoking cigars first, because they thought it was classy and cool, and then moved onto cigarettes later. That sounds a bit backwards since cigars are more powerful, but it does make sense. As cigars are considered 'occasional' semi-celebrational type things, it won't really matter what their price is. And since every human being is capable of delegating almost anything as being worthy of celebration, my friends started smoked much more often than could be called 'occasional.'
In any case, smoking as a habit has always been ludicrously expensive.
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Yeah this is kinda annoying for me. As a smoker myself, it's really frustrating seeing these constant price raises of cigarettes but I can understand the reason behind it.
From my point of view, or from what I've noticed with my friends or people i know concerning cigarettes, they either start because:
1. Peer pressure. I know you learn this kinda stuff in elementary school (programs like D.A.R.E. that are supposed to teach students not to give into peer pressure that advocates drug use and such) but when you're constantly kicking it with a group of friends that smoke, it's kind of hard not to. I give mad props for people that are able to keep themselves from smoking, despite being around smokers all the time. I think this is the reason I started.. I remember when I didnt smoke I would be kicking it with mostly all smokers, and when we would just be chillin somewhere outside they would always be smoking and I'd just be standing there.. so eventually I joined in.
2. Stress reliever? I know this is an incredibly stupid reason, and it doesn't make sense because if you're not a smoker, I don't think it would help relieve it. If you can keep yourself from becoming accustomed to using cigarettes as a stress reliever than that's all the better for you. But tbh, I do tend to smoke more when I'm incredibly stressed out (eg after I do bad on an exam or something)
I know a lot of people that only smoke cigarettes on specific occasions such as when they're drinking or when they blaze because it helps set off the buzz or high. I think that's understandable and imo it's okay.. as long as they don't let that occasional smoking turn into a regular habit.
I live in Washington state and our cigarette prices have gone up to around 8 dollars a pack.. which is fucking ridiculous. And it is all the more incentive to quit now..
A little bit of advice to quit smoking: Once you really get the mindset to completely stop, don't even smoke one more, thinking that it won't effect your motivation to quit. I'm not sure if it's just for me and my friends, but I've discussed this before and if you're trying to quit, even smoking just one can completely fail the quitting. And I just lol whenever I hear about people using "replacements" for smoking such as sunflower seeds. That doesn't work at all imo..
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Quick poll concerning quitting smoking:
Poll: What's the best way to quit cigarettes?
(Vote): Quit cold. Try never to smoke at all after you decide to quit.
(Vote): slowly cut down the amount you smoke until eventually you quit.
imo i think its better to quit cold.. im actually in the process of trying to quit.. this is day 2 and it hasnt been hard yet, but for me it usually doesnt get hard until the weekend when i kick it more or around a week into it.. > _<;;
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keep yourself occupied with shit so u dont have time for it D:
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Welcome to the "Obamination"
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On March 31 2009 16:11 InfeSteD wrote:
Not only are they expensive.. but they also stink soooo badd... make ur clothes stink.. makes ur fingers stink... I stopped smoking but I always smoke when I drink..
The only way to stop smoking is to smoke one less cig per day etc and then weekly and then monthly etc.. till u smoke no more.. I really dont know what to say.. but smoking stinks =(
That's not the only way, but that's what worked for me. Some people are different and need to cold turkey or nicotine patch or whatever.
And yea stinking clothes, I refuse to hang out with all my gf's friends in her friend's garage because everyone smokes and you leave smelling horrible. Not to mention the 2nd hand smoke. And their all so fat and lazy that they even try to smoke inside anyone's house whenever possible. fucking go outside idiots.
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I bought another pack...
DAMNIT!
I don't think I can quit these... they're so awesome xD!
27s!!@!
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On April 02 2009 16:41 BlueRoyaL wrote:Quick poll concerning quitting smoking: Poll: What's the best way to quit cigarettes?( Vote): Quit cold. Try never to smoke at all after you decide to quit. ( Vote): slowly cut down the amount you smoke until eventually you quit. imo i think its better to quit cold.. im actually in the process of trying to quit.. this is day 2 and it hasnt been hard yet, but for me it usually doesnt get hard until the weekend when i kick it more or around a week into it.. > _<;;
I think it depends entirely on the person, but for most people, quitting cold. A person has got to be able to say 'I'm done, I don't want to smoke anymore." If a person just cuts down little by little, it's mentally disruptive because they know they're still smoking even though they've said they'd quit, and it's easier to fall back into old habits. Physiologically though, it's probably easier to ween yourself off if the mental hurdle doesn't affect you.
Logistically, the best way is to quit cold turkey as well, just cause it costs less money 
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it's a lot easier to stop gradually, or use some nicotine replacement, cold turkey is very hard
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Using this space to pimp out the fact that I've yet to try a cig ever. Don't know how that worked out really.
And regarding prices, I highly doubt that it's the state 'looking out for the kids' If anything, it's the complete opposite. They know that most people are so hooked that they'll still shell out the cash for cigs (look at NY—what, $10 now??).
Like Chef said, most kids start bumming for a stoge or two for a buck off of older kids. By the time they get sucked in, they'll pay whatever.
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On April 04 2009 02:49 Moff wrote:
it's a lot easier to stop gradually, or use some nicotine replacement, cold turkey is very hard
It depends on how much you smoke I suppose. Two or three cigs a day, it can't be that hard to go cold turkey. A pack or something a day would be miserable cold turkey.
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u can stop all the way, but the mentality behind it needs to be a day by day process
setting unrealistic goals like -quitting for the rest of your life- will burden you heavily.
just take it slow , and if you only go 4months, alright, if u go forever... great!
but just saying you'll quit forever, and then u smoke that one cig... a day that disappointed you... a day that any normal (by normal i mean non-smoker) person might actually turn to drugs, ...
you will have failed yourself, and from there it's nearly impossible to quit with that mentality.
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Hehe.. Almost every single one of my friend's smoke. Some a pack a day, some just a square once or twice a day. It didn't really do it for me though. I'll smoke occasionally, when I'm drinking or it feels like the social thing to do, but I really get nothing out of it. I've probably smoked less than 6 cigarrettes this year.. hardly a big deal imo.
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I want to quit but I'm so weak 
I don't smoke when my girlfriend is here and I don't even feel the urge to smoke probably because we wanted to quit and she made it and I failed. But as soon as she is gone I will light a cigg...damn I suck
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yea the prices are ridiculous
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On March 31 2009 19:55 pyrogenetix wrote:
yea fuck ciggs
the smoke is harsh
expensive
and the "high" you get is just like getting really damn dizzy =(
lols ^^
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On April 01 2009 10:47 Physician wrote:
Cigarettes are a human preemptive attempt to MOD our own evolution for when the planet is completely phucked up, polluted, flaming hot and the air becomes hardly breathable.
so said Physician circa 2009, now.
The Physician Hast Prophesied - All Godfearing Men Shalt Bow
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