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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
March 24 2009 00:37 GMT
#1
After 2 brutal loss's I finally won 1 game in these friendly games we played





Truly shows the imbalances of Python in PvT and how it is difficult for Terran's to win in higher up ranking matches

*
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
March 24 2009 01:03 GMT
#2
..........ur gay
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-24 01:04:12
March 24 2009 01:03 GMT
#3
yang says you're a poop face
EDIT: oops beat me to it
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
March 24 2009 01:11 GMT
#4
HAHA YANG
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
March 24 2009 01:13 GMT
#5
but i appreciate how you put it in words that don't sound like brag though :D <3 <3...
BTW superiorwolf already has like 5 VOD's of him beating me..... I'm like the loser on TL, just like how everyone used to brag about beating Savior in 2006...

yah thats right, i can be compared with savior...
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
March 24 2009 01:26 GMT
#6
I have reps!!
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
March 24 2009 01:33 GMT
#7
wats ur iccup rank anyway?
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3341 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-24 01:52:56
March 24 2009 01:45 GMT
#8
Finally, something I can watch and enjoy while eating

Also, I think Python is T>P or at least T=P. Its not P>T imo (and even progaming statistics prove that)
김택용 Fighting!
candlejackisgonn
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States159 Posts
March 24 2009 01:53 GMT
#9
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/racenilatr.html

Apparently D if this is the account he uses.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
March 24 2009 01:53 GMT
#10
On March 24 2009 10:45 Yaqoob wrote:
Finally, something I can watch and enjoy while eating

Also, I think Python is T>P or at least T=P. Its not P>T imo (and even progaming statistics prove that)


cross positions its different....... and all 3 games we played was cross positions... Progaming stats prove nothing, korean terrans are WAY different than foreigners..
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 24 2009 01:56 GMT
#11
I need to record more fpvods.

nice game race.

beat me sometime kthxbye.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
March 24 2009 01:56 GMT
#12
watched about 1minute clip.. just judging from that I'd say you are not "higher up rank".
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 24 2009 01:57 GMT
#13
On March 24 2009 10:56 Piste wrote:
watched about 1minute clip.. just judging from that I'd say you are not "higher up rank".
Why because he doesn't mofo600apmspam?

He's like C-/C range.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3341 Posts
March 24 2009 02:09 GMT
#14
On March 24 2009 10:53 YPang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2009 10:45 Yaqoob wrote:
Finally, something I can watch and enjoy while eating

Also, I think Python is T>P or at least T=P. Its not P>T imo (and even progaming statistics prove that)


cross positions its different....... and all 3 games we played was cross positions... Progaming stats prove nothing, korean terrans are WAY different than foreigners..


PvT: 28-41 (40.6%)

Progaming stats do prove something. If Korean terrans can beat top level protoss on this map then maybe your playing it wrong. Most balanced maps have stats like 48-42 PvT or something close like that. This is a Terran favored map in TvP
김택용 Fighting!
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
March 24 2009 02:10 GMT
#15
On March 24 2009 11:09 Yaqoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2009 10:53 YPang wrote:
On March 24 2009 10:45 Yaqoob wrote:
Finally, something I can watch and enjoy while eating

Also, I think Python is T>P or at least T=P. Its not P>T imo (and even progaming statistics prove that)


cross positions its different....... and all 3 games we played was cross positions... Progaming stats prove nothing, korean terrans are WAY different than foreigners..


PvT: 28-41 (40.6%)

Progaming stats do prove something. If Korean terrans can beat top level protoss on this map then maybe your playing it wrong. Most balanced maps have stats like 48-42 PvT or something close like that. This is a Terran favored map in TvP


yo dude its called mechanics... something that takes hours a day to train for....and simple mistakes like not laying mines fast enough will cost you... O_O;; or even misplacement of tanks...
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
March 24 2009 02:11 GMT
#16
Good job Race, Yang was 5500 C+ last season!
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3341 Posts
March 24 2009 02:18 GMT
#17
On March 24 2009 11:10 YPang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2009 11:09 Yaqoob wrote:
On March 24 2009 10:53 YPang wrote:
On March 24 2009 10:45 Yaqoob wrote:
Finally, something I can watch and enjoy while eating

Also, I think Python is T>P or at least T=P. Its not P>T imo (and even progaming statistics prove that)


cross positions its different....... and all 3 games we played was cross positions... Progaming stats prove nothing, korean terrans are WAY different than foreigners..


PvT: 28-41 (40.6%)

Progaming stats do prove something. If Korean terrans can beat top level protoss on this map then maybe your playing it wrong. Most balanced maps have stats like 48-42 PvT or something close like that. This is a Terran favored map in TvP


yo dude its called mechanics... something that takes hours a day to train for....and simple mistakes like not laying mines fast enough will cost you... O_O;; or even misplacement of tanks...


So what does any of that have to do with the map?
김택용 Fighting!
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
March 24 2009 02:19 GMT
#18
nice.. man i need to go C- -_- when sc2 comes out im ditching bw.. unless sc2 sucks but it wont so blablabla!
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
March 24 2009 02:23 GMT
#19
On March 24 2009 11:18 Yaqoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2009 11:10 YPang wrote:
On March 24 2009 11:09 Yaqoob wrote:
On March 24 2009 10:53 YPang wrote:
On March 24 2009 10:45 Yaqoob wrote:
Finally, something I can watch and enjoy while eating

Also, I think Python is T>P or at least T=P. Its not P>T imo (and even progaming statistics prove that)


cross positions its different....... and all 3 games we played was cross positions... Progaming stats prove nothing, korean terrans are WAY different than foreigners..


PvT: 28-41 (40.6%)

Progaming stats do prove something. If Korean terrans can beat top level protoss on this map then maybe your playing it wrong. Most balanced maps have stats like 48-42 PvT or something close like that. This is a Terran favored map in TvP


yo dude its called mechanics... something that takes hours a day to train for....and simple mistakes like not laying mines fast enough will cost you... O_O;; or even misplacement of tanks...


So what does any of that have to do with the map?


Python is a wide opened map so A LOT of mines will have to be placed, on other maps such as othello, there are walls in the middle so less mines will have to be placed. Arguabally if 200/200 on othello or longinus you don't have to lay mines at all. But on python terran must always constant spamming mines in the middle of the map even while maxed at 200/200, and also must position his tank army to perfection all side by side to the curve of the walls on python so they don't get flanked... Thats a LOT more work to do in comparison to other maps for a camp style 200/200. Plus the mineral only has so few in minerals, and hard to defend, and must search for new minerals asap.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
March 24 2009 03:21 GMT
#20
Hey Race, this is Orbital - Nice job beating a C+ terran, you're improving really apparently, I'm kinda jealous :X
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
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