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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
March 22 2009 01:38 GMT
#1
What is the mentality of most people here on TL? Mine is that I do the bare minimum possible to win and therefore I underestimate good opponenets and lose because of silly reasons half the time. If that same person had a C+ rank, I would try to play really really safely. As a result, I don't treat anyone the same when I play on iccup. There is never a strong, consistent level of play for me. Is this what happens with most people? Or am I just a special case

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Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
March 22 2009 01:40 GMT
#2
no not really. its natural.

try to treat all players as B level. get ur basics down and ur good
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
March 22 2009 01:48 GMT
#3
Any tips on how to do that?
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
March 22 2009 01:52 GMT
#4
take a look, read a book
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
March 22 2009 01:55 GMT
#5
I don't know why you would do the minimum possible? I always do as much as I can and I like to focus on harass.
Hi.
[trapcard]
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
16 Posts
March 22 2009 02:02 GMT
#6
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape" -iloveoov
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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
March 22 2009 02:04 GMT
#7
On March 22 2009 10:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
I don't know why you would do the minimum possible? I always do as much as I can and I like to focus on harass.

Well I just don't always try my best. Like sometimes I let my macro slip in low level pvz's and stuff like that
yoshtodd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States418 Posts
March 22 2009 02:11 GMT
#8
In chess they tell you "play the board, not the player". No matter if you're playing a god or a newb, you should always treat it as a test for yourself to make as little errors as possible.
moo
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
March 22 2009 02:13 GMT
#9
I just go aggressive as possible, although I do lose because of it....
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2009 02:14 GMT
#10
I treat D- like A+(not that i'm anywhere near that or anything) people in terms of timing and such, you never know when you would run into a smurf.

If you don't underestimate your opponents you don't make silly mistakes because of confidence.

You're better off not even taking their rank in consideration and just playing as if the person is amazing.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 22 2009 02:37 GMT
#11
The way I see it; D player or A- player, all are the equal enemy at the beginning of any game.
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
March 22 2009 02:53 GMT
#12
we all sound like confusious
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
eX-Corgh
Profile Joined October 2007
Russian Federation386 Posts
March 22 2009 02:55 GMT
#13
Just another zerg.. just another zerg.
Never give cheese to the Gorilla ^^
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
March 22 2009 02:59 GMT
#14
On March 22 2009 11:53 Sonu wrote:
we all sound like confusious

Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
March 22 2009 03:01 GMT
#15
usually you can tell immediately how good someone is by their scouting worker
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404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
March 22 2009 03:05 GMT
#16
Someone once said in Chess to "play the board, not the player."

I don't think it applies well to SC. A lot of skill in SC is based on reading your opponent, which does mean reading his skill level in the different areas of his play. You have to play differently depending who and what you're up against. Their history, the builds they know, their micro, their current mind-state, their current decision making, their influences, etc..

Iccup is like an expansion pack to SC. It adds simple new elements of play such as mind-games with "top rank?" and "where are you from?" and BMing to try and tilt the opponent. Maybe start every D ladder game with "I hope you like cheese!" It's legal, it's funny and it's genuinely effective. They'll be nervous, they'll scout early, etc..

Anyway, to answer the OP:
Against really good P's in TvP, I'll play pretty greedy sometimes, cutting corners and trying my best to gauge goon count to get earlier facts and later e-bay. I need every edge I can get so I'll play hyper aggressive. The first person to attack gains a lot of initiative and a psychological advantage. Against D/C players, I will play way more safe, play way more defensively(if I care about my record. If it's purely practice, I will play greedy a lot so I can clearly find the line between too greedy and just greedy enough), not worrying about the psychological advantage of being the aggressor because I have the confidence already to beat them. And D/C players tend to throw units away and you can just wait for that and then unsiege and a-move.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
March 22 2009 03:05 GMT
#17
The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come. When in a state of security he does not forget the possibility of ruin. When all is orderly, he does not forget that disorder may come. Thus his person is not endangered, and his States and all their clans are preserved.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
March 22 2009 03:24 GMT
#18
I don't really play player levels differently, but I do play matchups differently.

ZvP: I am aggressive early, and at some point I either go for broke or stop being aggressive and start macro whoring like crazy. Unfortunately once I start macro whoring it is hard for me to get back into aggression mode, which is why the longer a ZvP lasts, the more likely it seems that I will lose it.

ZvT: I have difficulty being aggressive early against Terran. Unfortunately, I simply can't get my apm high enough to handle anything past middle game armies in ZvT. Idk, I am very cautious against Terran players and I shrink away from fights that I shouldn't, inevitably letting them force fights on their terms that I am doomed to lose.

ZvZ: My best matchup, because I know about what you should have at any given time. I play super aggressive, but so does everybody else, so that isn't really surprising.
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
March 22 2009 04:08 GMT
#19
I just imagine I'm playing your mother, so I'm as abusive as I can be.


More seriously though, I generally always expect my opponent to be a B or higher smurf wanting to noob-bash, so I play my best then pat myself on the back for being a nub who did his best when I get my wallin and first two tanks destroyed by 2 goons.
Savior broke my heart ;_; || twitch.tv/onnings
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
March 22 2009 04:13 GMT
#20
On March 22 2009 10:52 mahnini wrote:
take a look, read a book

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