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I used to do 1 gate goons into nexus this is the exact bo i do all the time
8 pylon 10 gate 12 gas 13 cyber 15 pylon 17 goon range goon 24pylon 25 nexus and i have 3 goons around 4 mins to deal with FD Push, bos i can counter Terran easily is the FD push as long as i didn't screw up my micro and siege expand.
the only bo i can't seem to counter well is 2 fact, so whats a good bo to counter 2 fact if any good protoss players know the EXACT bo so i can practice that would be great! I could still do 1 gate goon into nexus but if i dont know what terran is up to or if i dont see his cc, then i should do 2 gate robo obs? and what is that bo exactly?
   
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Btw sry to hijack a bit, can someone give me the exact 2gate fast goon pressure build that Nony ( for example ) uses a lot. It is not off topic because i guess it is good vs 2 fact :p
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2gate robo obs is pretty much the same as the 1gate expo except you just get a gateway then robo instead of nexus.
The 10/15 gate build is just what it sounds like. Standard opening, build 2nd gate at 15, stop probes, then make goon, pylon, range.
I can't give exact builds because I don't remember build orders by their supply counts.
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ok so anyone know the 10/15 goon pressure bo? and does it kill 2 fact?
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it's just 8pylon 10/15 gate gas normally but then cut like 3 probes so u can get 3 goons out asap just toy around with the build i'm sure you'll get it down as far as im concered 2fact>2gate however
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I do it this way. 8 pyl 10 gate 11 gas 13 core 15 gate->scout (start probe cut) 15 Range first then first goon asap like 1-2 sec after the range start. 17 pylon 17 2goons asap when pyl finishes (I like to start probes again after these 2 but you can cut it further to get 2 more goons out at the same time. If you start probes you will get the 4th right after the others but you have to wait some seconds before you start your 5th) 22 (or 21) Pylon (depends if you resume probes or not) After that it deviates depending on what you wanna do and what the Terran is doing. I usually don`t make more than 5goons unless they did not wall or I am able to break his wall.
It can kill 2fact with proper micro and you can lose with bad, but usually it ends in sort of a stalemate. It all comes down to the micro of both players basically.
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ever use 10/15 vs zerg ? lolol havn't played vs it yet
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damn I HATE TERRANS WHO 2 fact i wish every terran would just be passive and do siege expo all the time :T well i'll practice this bo, and i heard i shouldn't do this on ramped maps, so if they choose to do 2 fact on a ramped map, do i still continue with this bo?
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On March 17 2009 02:57 HeavOnEarth wrote: ever use 10/15 vs zerg ? lolol havn't played vs it yet
I actually once faked 1 gate-tech then i went 4 gate goon and it worked wonderfully
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Razor you make me l o l everytime you post =D
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Yea playing pvz like pvt is really funny ( 2-3 gates zeal/goon ). But it doesn't work well vs zergs > D/D+ ;(
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On March 17 2009 03:41 Ziph wrote: Razor you make me l o l everytime you post =D
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On March 17 2009 03:40 Hyperionnn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2009 02:57 HeavOnEarth wrote: ever use 10/15 vs zerg ? lolol havn't played vs it yet I actually once faked 1 gate-tech then i went 4 gate goon and it worked wonderfully sounds evil
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