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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 07:42:23
February 19 2009 05:50 GMT
#1
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yoyoyo! i have a midterm tomorrow and i have some problems that i don't have the solutions to!

if you're bored, you can check my work, or if you just love probabilities that much, you can try to do them yourself without checking the solns! :}

[all my XC0 will be for clarity :d]



P9. 10 rooms in a ring. Each of the 3 Little Pigs checks into a different room. Let X = # of adjacent pairs. Find P(X>=1).
[spoiler=My Solution]P(X>=1) = 1-P(X=0)
P(X=0) = 15/10C3
P(X>=1) = 105/120[/spoiler]

P10. Draw 10 cards from standard deck. Find:
a) P(getting exactly 1 suit)
b) P(getting exactly 2 suits)
[spoiler=My Solution]
10a. 4C1*13C10*39C0 / 52C10
10b. 4C2*[13C1*13C9+13C2*13C8+...+13C9*13C1]*26C0 / 52C10
[/spoiler]

P14. Return 4 hats randomly back to 4 people (n=4). Let X=# matches. Find:
a. P(X=4)
b. P(X=3)
c. P(X>=1)
d. P(X=-)
[spoiler=My Solution]
a. 1/4P4 = 1/24
b. if you have 3 matching, you must also have 4 matching, so same as (a)? is there overlap?
c. 1-(6/24)
d. 6/24[/spoiler]

will add more as i continue doing practice problems...^^


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Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
February 19 2009 06:12 GMT
#2
On February 19 2009 14:50 paper wrote:
P14. Return 4 hats randomly back to 4 people (n=4). Let X=# matches. Find:
a. P(X=4)
b. P(X=3)
c. P(X>=1)
d. P(X=-)
+ Show Spoiler [My Solution] +

a. 1/4P4 = 1/24
b. if you have 3 matching, you must also have 4 matching, so same as (a)? is there overlap?
c. 1-(6/24)
d. 6/24


will add more as i continue doing practice problems...^^


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Actually, you're on the right track for this one but wrong. As you said if you have 3 matching the 4th must match too therefore P(X=3) = 0. You can never have exactly 3 pairs matching.
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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
February 19 2009 06:13 GMT
#3
Wait, what was that picture for?

Funny how I had a blog today with help on probability/statistics.
I don't think you posted in there to help me though haha x_X
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 06:16:41
February 19 2009 06:16 GMT
#4
nice pic ^^

I thought it was going to be along the lines of "what's the probability of me banging her at the back of the club next time i see her"
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 06:17:34
February 19 2009 06:17 GMT
#5
On February 19 2009 15:13 OmgIRok wrote:
Wait, what was that picture for?

Funny how I had a blog today with help on probability/statistics.
I don't think you posted in there to help me though haha x_X



hahah i actually did your problems on my scratch paper but 93819023 people answered before i had even started on them anyway :s

btw thanks abydos
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Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
February 19 2009 06:20 GMT
#6
On February 19 2009 15:16 Cambium wrote:
nice pic ^^

I thought it was going to be along the lines of "what's the probability of me banging her at the back of the club next time i see her"


Lol, the pic didn't even load for me the first time I viewed this.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 19 2009 06:38 GMT
#7
Here's a better probability question:

You have a regular fair die and you are allowed three rolls, and you can stop whenever you want. I will give you X dollars at the end where X is the face value of the die. Find the EV.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
February 19 2009 07:21 GMT
#8
Hey paper! I can't answer ur Questionz but hi!
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 19 2009 07:24 GMT
#9
On February 19 2009 15:38 Cambium wrote:
Here's a better probability question:

You have a regular fair die and you are allowed three rolls, and you can stop whenever you want. I will give you X dollars at the end where X is the face value of the die. Find the EV.

doesn't the value a person would generally stop at change the EV for them? oh well

its probably around seventy
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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
February 19 2009 07:27 GMT
#10
On February 19 2009 15:17 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 15:13 OmgIRok wrote:
Wait, what was that picture for?

Funny how I had a blog today with help on probability/statistics.
I don't think you posted in there to help me though haha x_X



hahah i actually did your problems on my scratch paper but 93819023 people answered before i had even started on them anyway :s

btw thanks abydos


ohoh haha nice i'll refer to you next time i need help with this probability/stats you look like the expert :O

So what was that picture for?
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 19 2009 07:29 GMT
#11
On February 19 2009 16:27 OmgIRok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 15:17 paper wrote:
On February 19 2009 15:13 OmgIRok wrote:
Wait, what was that picture for?

Funny how I had a blog today with help on probability/statistics.
I don't think you posted in there to help me though haha x_X



hahah i actually did your problems on my scratch paper but 93819023 people answered before i had even started on them anyway :s

btw thanks abydos


ohoh haha nice i'll refer to you next time i need help with this probability/stats you look like the expert :O

So what was that picture for?

to unexpectedly brighten your day!
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 07:40:28
February 19 2009 07:40 GMT
#12
On February 19 2009 16:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 15:38 Cambium wrote:
Here's a better probability question:

You have a regular fair die and you are allowed three rolls, and you can stop whenever you want. I will give you X dollars at the end where X is the face value of the die. Find the EV.

doesn't the value a person would generally stop at change the EV for them? oh well

its probably around seventy

I assume the problem implies that a person will always make the statistically favorable choice, e.g. stop when the expected value of the remaining rolls is lower than or equal to their current roll.

+ Show Spoiler +

Working backwards:
EV of 1 roll = 7/2
For 2 rolls, keep roll on 4, 5, or 6, re-roll on 1, 2 or 3. EV is therefore:
1/2 * 5 + 1/2 * 7/2 = 17/4
For 3 rolls, keep roll on 5 or 6, re-roll on 1, 2, 3, or 4. EV is therefore:
2/3 * 4.25 + 1/3 * 5.5 = 14/3
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 08:24:04
February 19 2009 08:16 GMT
#13
On February 19 2009 16:40 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 16:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On February 19 2009 15:38 Cambium wrote:
Here's a better probability question:

You have a regular fair die and you are allowed three rolls, and you can stop whenever you want. I will give you X dollars at the end where X is the face value of the die. Find the EV.

doesn't the value a person would generally stop at change the EV for them? oh well

its probably around seventy

I assume the problem implies that a person will always make the statistically favorable choice, e.g. stop when the expected value of the remaining rolls is lower than or equal to their current roll.

+ Show Spoiler +

Working backwards:
EV of 1 roll = 7/2
For 2 rolls, keep roll on 4, 5, or 6, re-roll on 1, 2 or 3. EV is therefore:
1/2 * 5 + 1/2 * 7/2 = 17/4
For 3 rolls, keep roll on 5 or 6, re-roll on 1, 2, 3, or 4. EV is therefore:
2/3 * 4.25 + 1/3 * 5.5 = 14/3


For those that are interested, this was given to me during a Google interview. I gave the "correct" answer, which, later, after discussing with friends, I realized was actually probably incorrect (I haven't gotten around to work it out yet).

I said exactly what you said...
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I think that's incorrect because you should stop only when you roll is lower than your future potential EV.

EV of 1 roll = 7/2
So, technically, you should re-roll if you get 1, 2 or 3.

However, if you look at it from the other end, you still have two rolls left, which will yield an EV of 17/4, so I think you should actually stop rolling only if you get 5 or 6 on your first roll.


Okay, I just tried to work it out with what I said in the spoiler, and I just cannot put it to work as I got really confused with forward and backward EV. (but in my defense, it's 3:30 AM), let me know if you figure it out, or if it doesn't make sense at all.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 17:48:32
February 19 2009 17:44 GMT
#14
On February 19 2009 17:16 Cambium wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

I think that's incorrect because you should stop only when you roll is lower than your future potential EV.

EV of 1 roll = 7/2
So, technically, you should re-roll if you get 1, 2 or 3.

However, if you look at it from the other end, you still have two rolls left, which will yield an EV of 17/4, so I think you should actually stop rolling only if you get 5 or 6 on your first roll.

+ Show Spoiler +

Um, you did the exact same thing I did.

Your first roll keeps 5s or 6s, meaning that the EV of all 1st rolls that are kept is 5.5. If you choose to re-roll, your second roll is kept on 4, 5, or 6, meaning the EV of all 2nd rolls that are kept is 5. If you roll a 3rd time, you have an EV of 3.5.
So the total EV is:

(1/3)*5.5 + (2/3)*(1/2)*5 + (2/3)*(1/2)*3.5 = 14/3
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