• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:09
CEST 15:09
KST 22:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun3[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers24Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2277 users

Fun TvP replay

Blogs > SoMuchBetter
Post a Reply
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
January 22 2009 12:24 GMT
#1
A while ago I was playing around with the idea of using optic flare against protoss to make vultures more effective.

this is the most entertaining game I played using that strategy.

don't expect high level play, but i think overall the game was fairly high paced and fun.

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=7185

*****
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 12:59:43
January 22 2009 12:42 GMT
#2
hmm downloading it

nice game, although you could've just kill him easily after your very successful fd rush.

in tvp doesn't make much sense researching optical flare, because for the same money you could've just gotten a fast armory, fast damage upgrade and goliaths, which can shoot off the observers.

though in tvz it can have some use, because you'll have medics anyway. in this case optical flare isn't too costly, and you can blind the slow overlords over cliffs, I find this quite useful.
And all is illuminated.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
January 22 2009 12:43 GMT
#3
Haha that was an awesome game to watch, constant action aswell.

Thanks.
sAviOr...
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
January 22 2009 12:52 GMT
#4
hah cool, lately i have been losing motivation to play tvp normally too, so i just decided id stop playing to win and start playing to have some fun, so every tvp i played since then has included vessels with emp, and ghosts to lockdown arbiters, i hope i get the hang of it, because its far more fun than doing my normal stuff tvp
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
January 22 2009 13:21 GMT
#5
Hahaha. Nicely played. Must be annoying to be trying to clear mines and have your obs blinded.
#1 midas fan
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
January 22 2009 14:42 GMT
#6
lol, nice. i can see how this would annoy a protoss..
will try!
I feel like pwning noobs
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 22 2009 15:21 GMT
#7
Yeah you can make mines really strong if you blind his obs. It's a cute strat, I've seen it used before from time to time.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 22 2009 15:32 GMT
#8
I made a thread about this a while ago, and I do this strategy every once in a while, it's pretty fun.

Good rep btw, very action packed.

Have a look at my version of Optical Flare TvP:
[image loading]


I use it mostly to cut off flanks, and take advantage of protoss' split army.
tdotkrayz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States136 Posts
January 22 2009 16:10 GMT
#9
what about blinding YOUR OWN MINES so they only explode when a unit is right on top of them?
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
January 22 2009 16:13 GMT
#10
On January 23 2009 01:10 tdotkrayz wrote:
what about blinding YOUR OWN MINES so they only explode when a unit is right on top of them?

That wouldn't work on huge maps such as Python unless you put them in specific places

Besides, it would be much harder to hit anything with them unless they are 100% undetectable.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
January 22 2009 19:52 GMT
#11
On January 23 2009 01:13 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Besides, it would be much harder to hit anything with them unless they are 100% undetectable.


...then maybe blinding both mines AND observers?:D
And this thread shall be know as where the mass medic rush (mmr) was born:D
BW fighting!
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
January 23 2009 01:18 GMT
#12
ur still playing

i think i remember u using that against me as well on bluestorm
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
January 23 2009 10:59 GMT
#13
On January 22 2009 21:42 freelander wrote:
hmm downloading it

nice game, although you could've just kill him easily after your very successful fd rush.

in tvp doesn't make much sense researching optical flare, because for the same money you could've just gotten a fast armory, fast damage upgrade and goliaths, which can shoot off the observers.

though in tvz it can have some use, because you'll have medics anyway. in this case optical flare isn't too costly, and you can blind the slow overlords over cliffs, I find this quite useful.


like i said, the players are newbie.

the reason for medics over goliaths is that optic flare is instant (as opposed to the 6 goliath shots it takes to kill an ob), has the same range as a range upgraded gol, cheaper than gols, not a target (you'll find that your goliaths will die in battle while your medics are the last thing standing) plus it frees up the factories for more vultures

not saying that medics are better than gols, just that for my particular build i think they can work well which i hope the replay sort of demonstrated
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
January 23 2009 12:14 GMT
#14
haha what a great idea! Freelander makes a good point, but on the other hand if the protoss sees he loses his observer he'll build another and be cautious of mines, but if he just has his observer still alive he won't expect blind and will probably walk into mines
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Underwhelmed
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States207 Posts
January 23 2009 12:14 GMT
#15
I wonder if you could work this into a build. Yesterday I saw some guy do some weird FD build that involved an early academy and a medic to accompany the marines.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
#6
IntoTheiNu 913
WardiTV588
RotterdaM302
Ryung 252
TKL 187
Rex119
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 302
Ryung 252
TKL 187
SortOf 132
Rex 119
ProTech3
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 2181
Horang2 1923
Leta 1672
firebathero 648
EffOrt 638
Mini 581
Hyuk 469
Soma 467
Light 447
Snow 446
[ Show more ]
Stork 420
actioN 265
Larva 198
Killer 175
Zeus 157
ggaemo 146
ZerO 143
Rush 119
Soulkey 114
Hyun 88
ToSsGirL 80
PianO 59
Free 35
HiyA 33
[sc1f]eonzerg 32
sSak 25
Shinee 23
JulyZerg 23
Sexy 22
yabsab 19
sorry 19
Barracks 18
Terrorterran 15
Sacsri 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
SilentControl 12
Movie 12
scan(afreeca) 12
GoRush 11
Icarus 9
Rock 5
Britney 0
Dota 2
Gorgc2852
XaKoH 524
qojqva425
XcaliburYe146
ODPixel104
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2602
x6flipin406
allub317
Fnx 82
kRYSTAL_24
Other Games
singsing2029
B2W.Neo766
hiko507
Lowko295
crisheroes280
QueenE84
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream197
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2441
• TFBlade1348
Other Games
• WagamamaTV326
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
10h 51m
GSL
20h 21m
Rogue vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Replay Cast
1d 10h
GSL
1d 20h
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
KCM Race Survival
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
IPSL
4 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
IPSL
5 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Flash
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.