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ZvT Zerg pre defiler micro map

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village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
December 08 2008 09:41 GMT
#1
I made this map to practise my lurkling micro. It has helped me with my 1a2a3a4u quite a lot, so I thought I'd share this with you.

I imagined a situation where the Terran is threatening my natural on Python. I must now do a big attack that determines if I win or lose. The computer AI is quite dumb and it doesn't necessarily stim all its marines. Still, it isn't very easy to kill the huge blob of marines.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nymwzf4gj2n

Zerg:

3 control groups of lings
8 lurks
2 queens
2 scourge
2 overlords on cliffs

Zerg has zergling speed upgraded, also ensnare.

Terran:

30 marines
8 medics
2 tanks
1 Science vessel + scanner

Terran has marine range and stim researched. I didn't give the vessel irradiate since it's more effective to matrix the tanks. There's a CC in the back to give Terran scans.

*****
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
December 08 2008 09:42 GMT
#2
hehe cool stuff ^^
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
December 08 2008 09:56 GMT
#3
Cool!

I'll try it later on a boring class!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3319 Posts
December 08 2008 11:17 GMT
#4
Why would you give the zerg queens? Most zergs don't go queens at all so isn't it ineffective to be practicing using a unit that you wouldn't be using and that could put you behind because of the gas it needs. Its more effective to get a faster hive and defiler tech instead of queens.
김택용 Fighting!
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
December 08 2008 11:24 GMT
#5
On December 08 2008 20:17 Yaqoob wrote:
Why would you give the zerg queens? Most zergs don't go queens at all so isn't it ineffective to be practicing using a unit that you wouldn't be using and that could put you behind because of the gas it needs. Its more effective to get a faster hive and defiler tech instead of queens.

True, but I wanted to give as many options as possible. You can just ignore the queens and hotkey the other units.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3319 Posts
December 08 2008 11:47 GMT
#6
On December 08 2008 20:24 village_idiot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2008 20:17 Yaqoob wrote:
Why would you give the zerg queens? Most zergs don't go queens at all so isn't it ineffective to be practicing using a unit that you wouldn't be using and that could put you behind because of the gas it needs. Its more effective to get a faster hive and defiler tech instead of queens.

True, but I wanted to give as many options as possible. You can just ignore the queens and hotkey the other units.

That is a very good point. I have a friend of mine who loves to use Queens in ZvT and was playing some hyrda + ling + queen thing in ZvT when he was C+ on ICCup last season so I guess different people like different styles.
김택용 Fighting!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
December 08 2008 14:10 GMT
#7
ok I played it, you actually win by just attack moving all lings at the same time and burrow the lurkers

(you dont need to flank or come from different angles, just hotkey 1,2,3,4 and attack move)
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 08 2008 14:51 GMT
#8
Any tips on how to more easily select just a few lurkers at a time to burrow them seperately? I guess the only way is to use elite mouse skills to seperately select them :/
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Kruel
Profile Joined May 2008
Australia32 Posts
December 08 2008 15:38 GMT
#9
So where are the defilers? or do u just not know how zvt works? also queens? plzzzzzzzz --'' Fix the map thx.
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Xiberia
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden634 Posts
December 08 2008 16:07 GMT
#10
On December 09 2008 00:38 Kruel wrote:
So where are the defilers? or do u just not know how zvt works? also queens? plzzzzzzzz --'' Fix the map thx.

"ZvT Zerg PRE defiler micro map"
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 08 2008 16:30 GMT
#11
On December 09 2008 00:38 Kruel wrote:
So where are the defilers? or do u just not know how zvt works? also queens? plzzzzzzzz --'' Fix the map thx.


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And all is illuminated.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 08 2008 17:54 GMT
#12
On December 09 2008 00:38 Kruel wrote:
So where are the defilers? or do u just not know how zvt works? also queens? plzzzzzzzz --'' Fix the map thx.


You know, they say post count shouldn't determine the poster... but from mr 26 post here....

Anyways, can you play this from the T with the zerg flanking correctly? I assume you can't get cpu AI to do that so we would need another human for this to work?
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
December 08 2008 17:58 GMT
#13
On December 09 2008 02:54 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2008 00:38 Kruel wrote:
So where are the defilers? or do u just not know how zvt works? also queens? plzzzzzzzz --'' Fix the map thx.


You know, they say post count shouldn't determine the poster... but from mr 26 post here....

Anyways, can you play this from the T with the zerg flanking correctly? I assume you can't get cpu AI to do that so we would need another human for this to work?


for proof of that look at incontrol's posts
Hi.
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
December 08 2008 19:25 GMT
#14
On December 09 2008 00:38 Kruel wrote:
So where are the defilers? or do u just not know how zvt works? also queens? plzzzzzzzz --'' Fix the map thx.


LOL stupid!

i will try this out later this afternoon. Thanks for the effort!
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
December 08 2008 21:41 GMT
#15
On December 09 2008 02:58 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2008 02:54 randombum wrote:
On December 09 2008 00:38 Kruel wrote:
So where are the defilers? or do u just not know how zvt works? also queens? plzzzzzzzz --'' Fix the map thx.


You know, they say post count shouldn't determine the poster... but from mr 26 post here....

Anyways, can you play this from the T with the zerg flanking correctly? I assume you can't get cpu AI to do that so we would need another human for this to work?


for proof of that look at incontrol's posts


He's best at flaming surely and his posts are mostly entertaining
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
December 08 2008 22:57 GMT
#16
I thought the title say "ZvT Zerg PRO defiler micro map" and when I opened it I was like "wtf where's the defiler???"

Can't wait to try this out
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
December 08 2008 23:30 GMT
#17
On December 09 2008 06:41 Hyperionnn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2008 02:58 d(O.o)a wrote:
On December 09 2008 02:54 randombum wrote:
On December 09 2008 00:38 Kruel wrote:
So where are the defilers? or do u just not know how zvt works? also queens? plzzzzzzzz --'' Fix the map thx.


You know, they say post count shouldn't determine the poster... but from mr 26 post here....

Anyways, can you play this from the T with the zerg flanking correctly? I assume you can't get cpu AI to do that so we would need another human for this to work?


for proof of that look at incontrol's posts


He's best at flaming surely and his posts are mostly entertaining


or hot_bid- he has some epic ones.

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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
December 09 2008 00:19 GMT
#18
On December 08 2008 23:51 Shikyo wrote:
Any tips on how to more easily select just a few lurkers at a time to burrow them seperately? I guess the only way is to use elite mouse skills to seperately select them :/

I think if you select a lurker first then shift+select a blob of units, you can hit u and burrow all the lurkers you have selected (if you don't have burrow researched)
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