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StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-11 02:40:55
November 11 2008 02:39 GMT
#1

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Truth:
I am honestly sickened by the fact that so many people say "that kid got what he deserved" in the comments on Youtube. Kids are kids. That kid running across the marching band wasn't doing a harmful action. Whatever happened to the right to pursue happiness? Does that not apply to children as well? Sure it is immature, but that doesn't mean he should be punished in such a manner.

Am I the only one that thinks this, or is it true that Youtube posters are actually all dumbasses.


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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
November 11 2008 02:41 GMT
#2
haha this was funny, but no that kid didn't deserve to faceplant.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
November 11 2008 02:43 GMT
#3
I would've been annoyed at the kid too but he didn't deserve that
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
November 11 2008 02:48 GMT
#4
What a fucking dick that tuba player was...I thought the kid just tripped at first.

Sure the kid was being disrespectful but he was young enough that he wouldn't really understand anyway. Yeah, I would have been pretty damn pissed if that guy was in my band.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 11 2008 02:49 GMT
#5
LOL that was awesome.
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yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-11 02:50:07
November 11 2008 02:49 GMT
#6
it doesn't surprise me that it's a tuba player, douchebags all of em
On November 11 2008 11:49 fanatacist wrote:
LOL that was awesome.
hurr ya
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 11 2008 02:50 GMT
#7
I love how he did a bow at the end hahaaha
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 11 2008 02:51 GMT
#8
On November 11 2008 11:49 yubee wrote:
it doesn't surprise me that it's a tuba player, douchebags all of em
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 11:49 fanatacist wrote:
LOL that was awesome.
hurr ya

I used to play trombone and I can testify that this is true. I wonder why? Is it some sort of compensation factor that you have the fattest biggest instrument? Or is it to hide their own (generally) large figures?
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yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
November 11 2008 02:53 GMT
#9
On November 11 2008 11:51 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 11:49 yubee wrote:
it doesn't surprise me that it's a tuba player, douchebags all of em
On November 11 2008 11:49 fanatacist wrote:
LOL that was awesome.
hurr ya

I used to play trombone and I can testify that this is true. I wonder why? Is it some sort of compensation factor that you have the fattest biggest instrument? Or is it to hide their own (generally) large figures?
i think it's compensation that everyone thinks tuba players are faggots, so they're mad that they have this stigma... so they act like faggots
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
November 11 2008 03:02 GMT
#10
The only thing I can assume is that the tuba player is somehow related to that little kid, justifying him tripping him somewhat. I can't possibly see someones parent allowing a random guy to intentionally harm his/her child w/out whooping some ass.

If it was me and that was my kid, I wouldn't even wait till they were finished to beat the shit out of that tuba player.
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
November 11 2008 03:07 GMT
#11
Kids are tough as hell but that is no excuse to do that =\ bad move old fat kid.
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
November 11 2008 03:12 GMT
#12
hm thats pretty uncool =[
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
November 11 2008 03:12 GMT
#13
that kid was like 4...while funny, the fat kid should have been openly beaten by several people.
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hype[NZ]
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Japan412 Posts
November 11 2008 03:26 GMT
#14
looks like a set up

I mean the trip was perfectly in time with the music, and the kid was wearing a huge jacket... coincidence?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 11 2008 03:33 GMT
#15
As a member of a marching band I can testify that tuba players are fucking assholes.

Trombone players are awesome, as well as trumpet players (who are conceited, but in a good way).

Saxophone players are socially retarded.
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letsbefree
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada123 Posts
November 11 2008 03:36 GMT
#16
HAHHAHAHHA WHAT A FUCKING NOOB ASS KID PWNEDDDDDDDDDDDDD
hehe...
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
November 11 2008 03:39 GMT
#17
As a member of a jazz orchestra I can testify tuba players essentially do not exist. So just ignore him, he looks fat anyway. Little kids tripping is always funny, but tripping little kids isn't.
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
November 11 2008 03:43 GMT
#18
On November 11 2008 12:26 )HyPe( wrote:
looks like a set up

I mean the trip was perfectly in time with the music, and the kid was wearing a huge jacket... coincidence?


yes... that's a coincidence... the chances of that happening is huge

Or maybe I'm wrong and there's some kind of conspiracy going that intends to flood the internet with unfunny staged american funniest home video-esque clips, better watch out or Bob Saget will take over the world by crippling us all with an endless amount of very mild chuckling.

On second thought that seems way more likely, why didn't I think of that.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 11 2008 03:44 GMT
#19
Well, the kid was totally out of line, running through the band like that, so I don't really sympathize with him. Hard to tell how old he was--I think he was more like 8 than 4.
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vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
November 11 2008 03:45 GMT
#20
there's a reason sousaphone players are called "maggots." (at least, they are at BGSU...)

but nonetheless, the kid shouldn't have been running through the band like that. sure, two wrongs don't make a right, but sometimes they can make a funny video!
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goldenkrnboi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-11 05:04:40
November 11 2008 05:04 GMT
#21
On November 11 2008 12:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
As a member of a marching band I can testify that tuba players are fucking assholes.

Trombone players are awesome, as well as trumpet players (who are conceited, but in a good way).

Saxophone players are socially retarded.


.....

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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
November 11 2008 05:04 GMT
#22
thats rude..
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
November 11 2008 05:07 GMT
#23
I swear that cymbal crash was timed to happen just when that kid ate some concrete.
It felt like gravity.
Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
November 11 2008 05:07 GMT
#24
If the parents were there to keep the child in line, none of this would have happened. Where are the parents?
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Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
November 11 2008 05:10 GMT
#25
Hahaha
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 11 2008 05:17 GMT
#26
On November 11 2008 14:07 Chromyne wrote:
If the parents were there to keep the child in line, none of this would have happened. Where are the parents?


Probably working, or at least not paying attention to the kid.

Funny though.
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SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 11 2008 05:22 GMT
#27
On November 11 2008 12:26 )HyPe( wrote:
looks like a set up

I mean the trip was perfectly in time with the music, and the kid was wearing a huge jacket... coincidence?

Maybe you have terrible rhythm? Just a thought here.

Kid didnt deserve that shit imo, but it was hilarious so I will let it go.
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
November 11 2008 05:26 GMT
#28
I saw this as a gif before and it had me laughing for so long. Kid wasn't hurt so its ok, but the tuba player is still a dick to trip him.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 11 2008 06:17 GMT
#29
On November 11 2008 14:04 goldenkrnboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 12:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
As a member of a marching band I can testify that tuba players are fucking assholes.

Trombone players are awesome, as well as trumpet players (who are conceited, but in a good way).

Saxophone players are socially retarded.


.....

:[


Except you of course <3
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
November 11 2008 07:28 GMT
#30
hahaha that was funny
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-11 07:41:02
November 11 2008 07:39 GMT
#31
What's wrong with slapping a kid?

Well, here it's not exactly slapping, but he so obviously did it on purpose, not just ran to his momma or anything. Fuck up leads to punishment, that is what all kids should know.
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LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
November 11 2008 07:54 GMT
#32
tuba players are assholes...drumline people are badass tho! :D
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 11 2008 07:58 GMT
#33
On November 11 2008 12:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
As a member of a marching band I can testify that tuba players are fucking assholes.

Trombone players are awesome, as well as trumpet players (who are conceited, but in a good way).

Saxophone players are socially retarded.

High-five! That is so fucking true.
Peace~
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
November 11 2008 08:11 GMT
#34
On November 11 2008 12:02 kidd wrote:
The only thing I can assume is that the tuba player is somehow related to that little kid, justifying him tripping him somewhat. I can't possibly see someones parent allowing a random guy to intentionally harm his/her child w/out whooping some ass.

If it was me and that was my kid, I wouldn't even wait till they were finished to beat the shit out of that tuba player.


wtf... you sersrulsy?
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Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
November 11 2008 09:08 GMT
#35
wow thats such a horrible thing to do
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anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
November 11 2008 09:16 GMT
#36
omg, polling time. OP please paste this to OP if you want.

[image loading]

Poll: who deserves a whoopass?
(Vote): kid
(Vote): tuba player
(Vote): the parent

I vote kid, but he got served, so turns out even.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
November 11 2008 09:20 GMT
#37
On November 11 2008 12:02 kidd wrote:
The only thing I can assume is that the tuba player is somehow related to that little kid, justifying him tripping him somewhat. I can't possibly see someones parent allowing a random guy to intentionally harm his/her child w/out whooping some ass.

If it was me and that was my kid, I wouldn't even wait till they were finished to beat the shit out of that tuba player.

If you were the parent and watching this, you should stop your son before he actually runs into someone, possibility ruining the whole band and further embarrassment.
If you had to beat the tuba player, please wait till the show is over.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
November 11 2008 09:35 GMT
#38
Right or not, that shit was pretty funny
Complete the cycle!
meeny
Profile Joined May 2008
United States40 Posts
November 11 2008 09:38 GMT
#39
it made him learn a lesson don't u think? if he got away with it that time hell just keep doing it..so yea i think its fine haha..who really actually cared about a time out ..u just went right back and did it
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
November 11 2008 10:12 GMT
#40
I can't ever imagine seeing a kid running by me and sticking my foot out....

actually I've never tripped anybody like that in my life, not funny.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 11 2008 10:54 GMT
#41
That was a cute sequence of events.
Little bratty kid and fat bratty kid. lol~
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Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
November 11 2008 11:20 GMT
#42
that was not cool

but i like it when they hit the cymbals exactly the time when the kid hit the ground.. eeh han timing !!!!!!!!!
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-11 11:41:36
November 11 2008 11:39 GMT
#43
Fucking lame uptight mean adults that forgot they were a child as some point. It's a damn fucking child you moron.
Sure, bad manners by the kid. But all the blame on that goes to the parents/community.
What if the child was seriously injured?

All the people who found this funny don't have a bad sense of humor. No, they have a bad sense of morality.

it made him learn a lesson don't u think?


Yeah it did. It's ok to kick/push/trip children you are an adult and you find them annoying. It's probably how this guy learned to do it.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
November 11 2008 11:39 GMT
#44
Before I watched the video I figured (from the preview picture and thread title) that a kid was going to run up the rows lol... didn't anticipate the trip though... that was an awesome surprise.

On November 11 2008 14:07 Chromyne wrote:
If the parents were there to keep the child in line, none of this would have happened. Where are the parents?

This.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 11 2008 13:34 GMT
#45
LMAO funny but that tuba player was a fatass rofl

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Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
November 11 2008 13:53 GMT
#46
why is there always a morality issue with funny videos?
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
November 11 2008 14:02 GMT
#47
Oh, come on. It's not like he kicked the kid or punched him in the face. The kid got tripped and fell on the ground when he shouldn't have been running in there, how is that such a big deal? I don't think the fat kid was much of a dick, although obviously it wasn't a nice thing to do. Kid learned his lesson not to fucking do that, so really I don't see what the problem is if the kid gets up and walks away from it.

Maybe if the kid got tripped into a pile of rusty nails then there would be a problem, but he just fell. When your 8 years old, falling doesn't really mean shit, does it?
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Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States27 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-11 14:42:47
November 11 2008 14:42 GMT
#48
Shit.
Impressive, for an idiot or a lunatic.
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
November 11 2008 14:50 GMT
#49
kid's bones are very elastic

he'll be fine
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
November 11 2008 16:01 GMT
#50
Bet you he wouldn't do it again.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
November 11 2008 17:27 GMT
#51
How hard it is to come back and kick the fat guy in the nuts... I was hoping that'd happen
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Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
November 11 2008 17:58 GMT
#52
What a faggot that guy was, it's just a kid!
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o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
November 11 2008 18:14 GMT
#53
lol poor kid XD
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-11 18:24:36
November 11 2008 18:20 GMT
#54
The kid knew full and well he was disrupting a performance, or at least, doing something he knew he shouldn't be doing. The lesson he was taught was perfect; I bet he never disrupts other people out in public for a long time.

Also, where the fuck are the parents?!?

On November 11 2008 20:39 BlackStar wrote:

Yeah it did. It's ok to kick/push/trip children you are an adult and you find them annoying. It's probably how this guy learned to do it.


rofl nice over-generalization there.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
November 11 2008 18:35 GMT
#55
Youtube posters ARE definitely all dumbasses.

Where have you been?
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Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-11 19:50:50
November 11 2008 19:50 GMT
#56
On November 12 2008 03:20 BlasiuS wrote:
The lesson he was taught was perfect; I bet he never disrupts other people out in public for a long time.



You clearly have no clue how people, or any animal for that matter, learn stuff.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 11 2008 21:04 GMT
#57
On November 12 2008 04:50 BlackStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2008 03:20 BlasiuS wrote:
The lesson he was taught was perfect; I bet he never disrupts other people out in public for a long time.



You clearly have no clue how people, or any animal for that matter, learn stuff.

You mean, like conditioning? Spare the rod, spoil the child.
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BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
November 12 2008 22:13 GMT
#58
On November 12 2008 06:04 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2008 04:50 BlackStar wrote:
On November 12 2008 03:20 BlasiuS wrote:
The lesson he was taught was perfect; I bet he never disrupts other people out in public for a long time.



You clearly have no clue how people, or any animal for that matter, learn stuff.

You mean, like conditioning? Spare the rod, spoil the child.


ahaha who's clueless now? It's basic common sense dude -_-
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
November 12 2008 22:24 GMT
#59
I think you both are taking views that are too extreme. It's true that violence is not the answer (positive reinforcement generally works better than negative), but it's also true that if you are fair and consistent about when punishment occurs, it will discourage poor behavior. I don't think you can have 100% of one and 0% of the other.
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Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
November 12 2008 22:31 GMT
#60
positive reinforcement generally works better than negative


Wrong. Negative reinforcement works better when you want to prevent actions. Positive works when you want to encourage actions.

In this case, punishment worked ...in a wrong way. But the result will be good XD
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
November 12 2008 22:35 GMT
#61
This made me chuckle a little. Assuming it wasn't a setup, I'd say the kid shouldn't have been let out there in the first place. I don't think he deserved the faceplant, much less in that manner. I'd just reprimand the parents, obviously not to an extreme... It was just letting a kid run through a band, no biggie.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
November 12 2008 22:37 GMT
#62
On November 13 2008 07:31 Elvin_vn wrote:
Show nested quote +
positive reinforcement generally works better than negative


Wrong. Negative reinforcement works better when you want to prevent actions. Positive works when you want to encourage actions.

In this case, punishment worked ...in a wrong way. But the result will be good XD

Source? I have studied pedagogy and cognitive development at the undergraduate and graduate level, and this is not the conclusion they have drawn. Of course half of it is total bs.
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
November 12 2008 23:04 GMT
#63
omg.. if i was the kid's dad.. i would beat the crap out of the tuba player
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Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
November 13 2008 00:24 GMT
#64
On November 13 2008 07:37 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2008 07:31 Elvin_vn wrote:
positive reinforcement generally works better than negative


Wrong. Negative reinforcement works better when you want to prevent actions. Positive works when you want to encourage actions.

In this case, punishment worked ...in a wrong way. But the result will be good XD

Source? I have studied pedagogy and cognitive development at the undergraduate and graduate level, and this is not the conclusion they have drawn. Of course half of it is total bs.


After a bit research, it turns out that i was confused between negative reinforcement and positive punishment. And in general, like you said, reinforcement was stronger and preferred over punishment due to the side effect of the punishment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_Conditioning
http://allpsych.com/psychology101/reinforcement.html

That is in general. However, in this particular case, I still think that punishment works better.

Say, between positive punishment like spanking the kid and negative reinforcement like stop giving the kid candy when he does something bad like that, the later needs to be applied repeatably before the kid can learn the lesson whereas the former need far less frequency (because when the punishment is applied immediately, it develops a strong link to the action). Yeah but that's just my opinion.

So the correct answer is to spank the kid, not to trip him, and no more candy for him.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
November 13 2008 00:27 GMT
#65
On November 13 2008 09:24 Elvin_vn wrote:
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On November 13 2008 07:37 micronesia wrote:
On November 13 2008 07:31 Elvin_vn wrote:
positive reinforcement generally works better than negative


Wrong. Negative reinforcement works better when you want to prevent actions. Positive works when you want to encourage actions.

In this case, punishment worked ...in a wrong way. But the result will be good XD

Source? I have studied pedagogy and cognitive development at the undergraduate and graduate level, and this is not the conclusion they have drawn. Of course half of it is total bs.


After a bit research, it turns out that i was confused between negative reinforcement and positive punishment. And in general, like you said, reinforcement was stronger and preferred over punishment due to the side effect of the punishment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_Conditioning
http://allpsych.com/psychology101/reinforcement.html

That is in general. However, in this particular case, I still think that punishment works better.

Say, between positive punishment like spanking the kid and negative reinforcement like stop giving the kid candy when he does something bad like that, the later needs to be applied repeatably before the kid can learn the lesson whereas the former need far less frequency (because when the punishment is applied immediately, it develops a strong link to the action). Yeah but that's just my opinion.

So the correct answer is to spank the kid, not to trip him, and no more candy for him.

I appreciate the thoughtful response. However I think you should be a bit more cautious about tossing around responses like

<quote>
Wrong.

:p
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
November 13 2008 00:38 GMT
#66
On November 13 2008 09:27 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2008 09:24 Elvin_vn wrote:
On November 13 2008 07:37 micronesia wrote:
On November 13 2008 07:31 Elvin_vn wrote:
positive reinforcement generally works better than negative


Wrong. Negative reinforcement works better when you want to prevent actions. Positive works when you want to encourage actions.

In this case, punishment worked ...in a wrong way. But the result will be good XD

Source? I have studied pedagogy and cognitive development at the undergraduate and graduate level, and this is not the conclusion they have drawn. Of course half of it is total bs.


After a bit research, it turns out that i was confused between negative reinforcement and positive punishment. And in general, like you said, reinforcement was stronger and preferred over punishment due to the side effect of the punishment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_Conditioning
http://allpsych.com/psychology101/reinforcement.html

That is in general. However, in this particular case, I still think that punishment works better.

Say, between positive punishment like spanking the kid and negative reinforcement like stop giving the kid candy when he does something bad like that, the later needs to be applied repeatably before the kid can learn the lesson whereas the former need far less frequency (because when the punishment is applied immediately, it develops a strong link to the action). Yeah but that's just my opinion.

So the correct answer is to spank the kid, not to trip him, and no more candy for him.

I appreciate the thoughtful response. However I think you should be a bit more cautious about tossing around responses like

<quote>
Wrong.

:p

Wrong
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
November 13 2008 00:40 GMT
#67
positive reinforcement is better because it works in the long run even though a punishment is 4x as powerful
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
November 13 2008 00:52 GMT
#68
On November 13 2008 09:40 Frits wrote:
positive reinforcement is better because it works in the long run even though a punishment is 4x as powerful

We can sorta simulate these principles by examining TL and how it is moderated. The more I think about it the more scary it is how TL is several simultaneous experiments in parenting (mostly gone wrong, but mods aren't parents so I don't think that's any surprise).
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
November 13 2008 04:02 GMT
#69
During an NBA game, there was a dude that started running on the court and one of the players tripped him, lol. This is just like it
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