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Sometimes I don't kill the civilians

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CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
October 06 2008 09:12 GMT
#1
So, there I am, instead of going to bed because I have class tomorrow, I'm browsing addictinggames.com again looking for a time-waster. After a couple 30-second tries of boring-looking games, I settle on this:

http://www.addictinggames.com/theheist.html

It seems to have an ok premise, and not too involved, just right for casually playing. The premise of the game is that you're a getaway car driver. So, I look at the controls and since I don't have any money for upgrades just yet, I start the first mission. I start off in a 4-lane expressway. Most of the other cars are civilian vehicles. I try to avoid them, because I assume it's a bad thing to do. I think there was an instruction that popped up and told me to avoid them. I know there was one at some point, but I can't recall how soon it occurred, or the exact message it contained.

Anyway, I start driving along. Soon enough, I see a cop car. A new tip pops up that says I can smash into cop cars for extra points, which is the same as cash for upgrades. Sounds good to me. Also, the cop car tries to get in front of me, which only makes it easier for me to ram him. I ram him a few times, and move on. I do my best to avoid hitting the civilians, but a few minor accidents later, I've finished the mission damaging a whole lot more civvies than cop cars. Whatever. I look at the upgrades now available to me, and go for the next mission.

More of the same, but a few more cop cars. I start to notice things. Cop cars will turn towards my lane. Even if there's a civilian in the way. I also notice that there's a difference between blowing cars up and just ramming them. Cool. It also occurs to me that the premise is kind of silly. I'm no criminal, but in all the movies I've seen, you don't hire people to drive getaway cars. Hollywood would never lie, so I know this is the truth. Ocean's 11 (and sequels), The Italian Job, and one other one never had anything like this. I ponder the realism of this for a bit.

I imagine that some old crusty conservative person would complain that this game is teaching American children the wrong things about getaway car drivers. Is it right to tell children that blowing up cop cars nets them more money? But at least they don't kill the civilians.

Soon, as I drive faster and more recklessly, I'm blowing up cars left and right. When one car goes, others nearby can blow up too. I feel like I'm murdering dozens of people. At the end of my getaway, my body count (for civilians alone) is higher than a serial killer. As for the cop kills add up, I realize that I'm also murdering people who are supposed to serve and protect. And I just want more points.

The cops chase after me. As the missions progress, they swarm in thicker bunches. They ignore civilians, and move towards me, nudging the other cars in my direction, so they can't always be avoided. The cops are forcing me to kill innocents. I feel like a monster for murdering them all with no thought to their lives. Did the programmer program families? I even kill ice cream trucks. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it. I like ice cream too.

At some point, it occurs to me that I was wrong about a few things earlier. Hired crime drivers have been in a hollywood movie: 2 Fast 2 Furious. Also, I realize I'm on the left side of the road. All my conjecturing about what a crazy old person would think this game teaches american youth doesn't apply. Maybe it'll be the same in britain, and wherever else they drive on the left side though.

The police cars are killing people. It's their fault. It was all along. They drive the helpless into the path of my van, where I crush them under my front bumper. I can avoid the civilians sometimes. Sometimes I don't kill them. Some missions, I try to avoid everything. I'm afraid of hitting cop cars, because i'll knock them into innocents, and then when the cop car blows up, I'll be responsible for even more murders. It has to be the cops fault. They're trying to make me lose points.

At some point, I wonder about the physical mechanisms behind the game. Is the theory that when you run into a civilian car, some money leaks out the cracks in your van? That almost makes sense. Maybe I get a bonus from the crime lords when I kill a cop. I feel bad about it though. I don't want to kill anyone. I just want to drive the getaway car.

The cop cars are coming in thicker and thicker. Maybe if I get better at avoiding them, I can save a few of the civilians. As the cops crowd in ever thicker, I can't help but ram some of them. When they bounce off of the civilian cars, I know I'm murdering innocents. But what about when it's the cop's fault? Is it still morally my responsibility? More importantly, will I lose points?

Either way, my rule stands. Sometimes, I don't kill the civilians.

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Barbarne
Profile Joined August 2007
Sweden458 Posts
October 06 2008 09:34 GMT
#2
That was a weird but entertaining read...

Of course you can't stop playing I presume?
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-06 09:56:10
October 06 2008 09:55 GMT
#3
On October 06 2008 18:34 Barbarne wrote:
That was a weird but entertaining read...

Of course you can't stop playing I presume?

He is describing how he tries to separate himself from the killing of civilians by blaming it on circumstances and others (society), even though he is actually the one doing it.

He is trying to redeem himself.
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Jizz
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia224 Posts
October 06 2008 10:59 GMT
#4
Flash game = Philosophy and morality



=Profit?
I made this account before i knew what the name meant. I just thought it sounded coooool
aev
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
166 Posts
October 06 2008 13:06 GMT
#5
This seems like an unusual amount of metaphorical analysis for something as trivial as a flash game....
Haha, whatever floats your boat, I guess
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
October 06 2008 13:13 GMT
#6
awesome read
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
October 06 2008 13:20 GMT
#7
You're driving a getaway car. You are a criminal. You are highspeeding and alone that threathens the civilians.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
October 06 2008 14:00 GMT
#8
Ocean's 11 had no get away cars. Well, one. But it didn't involve a high speed chase. It was practically legal.
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
October 06 2008 16:54 GMT
#9
You forgot about HEAT and Dirty Harry (I may very well be mistaken here, however I recall some people robbing a bank and getting into a getaway vehicle only to be stopped in it's tracks by Clint Eastwood's infamous .44-wielding antihero). Also, did you mean Oceans 11 from 2000 something or the old one with Frank Sinatra?

Anyway, I did enjoy reading this and after I was done, I weighed all the existential implications of this and came to the conclusion that everything that happens in this game applies in real life. Cops have always been out to ruin the fun for people, criminals and nuclear families alike and someone is keeping score too.

For your next blog, will you consider playing Carmageddon I have always wanted to analyse that game and done so on a passive, subconscious level. Perhaps, you can stimulate me and other people towards some interesting discussion.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 06 2008 17:26 GMT
#10
On October 06 2008 19:59 Jizz wrote:
Flash game = Philosophy and morality



=Profit?



This needs the questionmarks

Flash Game
Philosophy
Morality
???
Profit!
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
October 06 2008 19:51 GMT
#11
I had a similar train of thought when I played Hitman but I got over it. I think you just need to accept that you're a monster when you play half the missions by killing everyone regardless of their race/gender/history.
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
October 06 2008 21:58 GMT
#12
On October 07 2008 04:51 Durak wrote:
killing everyone regardless of their race/gender/history.


Would it be better than killing certain people because of their race, gender or background... ?
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thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
October 06 2008 22:47 GMT
#13
I never saw civilians, all I saw were people driving in the wrong side of the road.
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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
October 06 2008 23:58 GMT
#14
Sometimes I play flash games because it makes me feel better about n00bing it up.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
October 07 2008 03:53 GMT
#15
On October 07 2008 06:58 Not_Computer wrote:
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On October 07 2008 04:51 Durak wrote:
killing everyone regardless of their race/gender/history.


Would it be better than killing certain people because of their race, gender or background... ?


I suppose if their background is "druglord" then that could be debatable. Point taken.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
October 07 2008 05:39 GMT
#16
Damn, this is some deep stuff.
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