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More and more I find there is a trend developing among Christian girls.
I was "talking" seriously with a girl for a long time, a devout Christian. We dated all year, and up into August. Our differing faiths(I'm an agnostic/atheist) were never a point of contention. However, her mother just shared with me that "until [we] share a faith in Jesus Christ there will never be anything substantial as a relationship."
Woow. That pisses me off. Why is it that since I don't believe in the same deity as these women I'm suddenly inferior? Nor is this the first time I've experienced such bigotry! It's happened on at least three different separate occasions. What the hell?
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On September 08 2008 12:06 Track wrote: More and more I find there is a trend developing among Christian girls.
I was "talking" seriously with a girl for a long time, a devout Christian. We dated all year, and up into August. Our differing faiths(I'm an agnostic/atheist) were never a point of contention. However, her mother just shared with me that "until [we] share a faith in Jesus Christ there will never be anything substantial as a relationship."
Woow. That pisses me off. Why is it that since I don't believe in the same deity as these women I'm suddenly inferior? Nor is this the first time I've experienced such bigotry! It's happened on at least three different separate occasions. What the hell? implicit in most religious teachings is the belief that the follows are some how better than the non followers.
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On September 08 2008 12:10 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2008 12:06 Track wrote: More and more I find there is a trend developing among Christian girls.
I was "talking" seriously with a girl for a long time, a devout Christian. We dated all year, and up into August. Our differing faiths(I'm an agnostic/atheist) were never a point of contention. However, her mother just shared with me that "until [we] share a faith in Jesus Christ there will never be anything substantial as a relationship."
Woow. That pisses me off. Why is it that since I don't believe in the same deity as these women I'm suddenly inferior? Nor is this the first time I've experienced such bigotry! It's happened on at least three different separate occasions. What the hell? implicit in most religious teachings is the belief that the follows are some how better than the non followers.
If by "most", you mean Christianity and Islam, then yes.
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yea my gf almost broke up with me over our different beliefs. ( same boat as you )
we got past it but i know it is hard for her......it sucks that something as simple as skepticism can fuck up so many relationships with so many people;/
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They don't want their daughter dating a hell-bound heathen, can you really blame them?
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Eh? If you get in a serious relationship and get married and she wants to go to church with you, and if you have kids that want to go to church are you going to?
I find it just makes things complicated if you don't share the same faith or similar views to the person you're in a relationship with. It's very easy to get into arguments when you have conflicting viewpoints especially if she's pretty strong/adamant about her faith.
I don't think it's bigotry or anything like that.. more along the lines of knowing what you want in a potential mate. Bible even talks about this if you didn't know. I personally would not want to subject myself to potential big arguments on such a topic which is why I tend to avoid people who don't hold the same views as me when looking for a relationship.
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On September 08 2008 12:13 Meta wrote: They don't want their daughter dating a hell-bound heathen, can you really blame them?
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On September 08 2008 12:15 eshlow wrote: Eh? If you get in a serious relationship and get married and she wants to go to church with you, and if you have kids that want to go to church are you going to?
I find it just makes things complicated if you don't share the same faith or similar views to the person you're in a relationship with. It's very easy to get into arguments when you have conflicting viewpoints especially if she's pretty strong/adamant about her faith.
I don't think it's bigotry or anything like that.. more along the lines of knowing what you want in a potential mate. Bible even talks about this if you didn't know. I personally would not want to subject myself to potential big arguments on such a topic which is why I tend to avoid people who don't hold the same views as me when looking for a relationship.
Yeah, and not to look too ahead in your future but eshlow is right, it could and probably will make your relationship harder, not saying you should convert because of your gf cuz thats just wrong.
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On September 08 2008 12:13 Meta wrote: They don't want their daughter dating a hell-bound heathen, can you really blame them?
Strongly disagree. If her parents really think that then they're retarded.
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My rule is to generally avoid any hardcore religious women, because of the problems it can cause with me being an atheist.
+ Show Spoiler +That, and the whole thing about being married before sex. There. I said it.
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On September 08 2008 12:18 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2008 12:13 Meta wrote: They don't want their daughter dating a hell-bound heathen, can you really blame them? Strongly disagree. If her parents really think that then they're retarded.
A majority of people in the world really do believe this, and I think that it's pretty close-minded of you to call them retarded.
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On September 08 2008 12:15 eshlow wrote: Eh? If you get in a serious relationship and get married and she wants to go to church with you, and if you have kids that want to go to church are you going to?
I find it just makes things complicated if you don't share the same faith or similar views to the person you're in a relationship with. It's very easy to get into arguments when you have conflicting viewpoints especially if she's pretty strong/adamant about her faith.
I don't think it's bigotry or anything like that.. more along the lines of knowing what you want in a potential mate. Bible even talks about this if you didn't know. I personally would not want to subject myself to potential big arguments on such a topic which is why I tend to avoid people who don't hold the same views as me when looking for a relationship. Pluralism is a pretty common thing in many churches these days, so it's really not that big of an issue unless they're extremely conservative.
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On September 08 2008 12:20 Meta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2008 12:18 eshlow wrote:On September 08 2008 12:13 Meta wrote: They don't want their daughter dating a hell-bound heathen, can you really blame them? Strongly disagree. If her parents really think that then they're retarded. A majority of people in the world really do believe this, and I think that it's pretty close-minded of you to call them retarded.
Is it (well, I suppose it is )?
Is it right for a lot of Christians to tell people who are non-believers that they're going to hell in attempts to convert them... when Jesus says love your neighbor as yourself?
All I'm trying to say is that some people are irrational regardless of what they believe. Being associated with one group or another or even being married to a non-Christian is not going to make someone a heathen or go to hell. I think that's more "close minded" than me calling that belief retarded. Just because a lot of people believe it doesn't make it true or right or anything like that.
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Pluralism is still generally fairly liberal, most of the churches take a line against it afaik. In all honestly though, eshlow is right, it doesn't make much sense to be in a relationship if the two cannot reconcile on an issue that is deemed major.
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On September 08 2008 12:21 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2008 12:15 eshlow wrote: Eh? If you get in a serious relationship and get married and she wants to go to church with you, and if you have kids that want to go to church are you going to?
I find it just makes things complicated if you don't share the same faith or similar views to the person you're in a relationship with. It's very easy to get into arguments when you have conflicting viewpoints especially if she's pretty strong/adamant about her faith.
I don't think it's bigotry or anything like that.. more along the lines of knowing what you want in a potential mate. Bible even talks about this if you didn't know. I personally would not want to subject myself to potential big arguments on such a topic which is why I tend to avoid people who don't hold the same views as me when looking for a relationship. Pluralism is a pretty common thing in many churches these days, so it's really not that big of an issue unless they're extremely conservative.
IMO that's probably one of the reasons for high divorce rates in the church. If you don't have your wife/husband believe the same thing you do it's going to be rough on your marriage.
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Christians are almost always very misleaded, such as "Is it right for a lot of Christians to tell people who are non-believers that they're going to hell in attempts to convert them... when Jesus says love your neighbor as yourself?" Christians dont quite understand to have a gentle saying, instead of an almost "hypocrite" sort of talking -.-
:edit: does that make any sense?
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Kennigit
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On September 08 2008 12:34 Folca wrote: Christians are almost always very misleaded, such as "Is it right for a lot of Christians to tell people who are non-believers that they're going to hell in attempts to convert them... when Jesus says love your neighbor as yourself?" Christians dont quite understand to have a gentle saying, instead of an almost "hypocrite" sort of talking -.-
:edit: does that make any sense? Keep your generalized bullshit comments to yourself
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On September 08 2008 12:26 Ecael wrote: Pluralism is still generally fairly liberal, most of the churches take a line against it afaik. In all honestly though, eshlow is right, it doesn't make much sense to be in a relationship if the two cannot reconcile on an issue that is deemed major. Most of what churches? There's at least 3 major divisions in the US alone, and only 1 is particularly hard line. It really depends on the type of person.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On September 08 2008 12:12 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2008 12:10 Mastermind wrote:On September 08 2008 12:06 Track wrote: More and more I find there is a trend developing among Christian girls.
I was "talking" seriously with a girl for a long time, a devout Christian. We dated all year, and up into August. Our differing faiths(I'm an agnostic/atheist) were never a point of contention. However, her mother just shared with me that "until [we] share a faith in Jesus Christ there will never be anything substantial as a relationship."
Woow. That pisses me off. Why is it that since I don't believe in the same deity as these women I'm suddenly inferior? Nor is this the first time I've experienced such bigotry! It's happened on at least three different separate occasions. What the hell? implicit in most religious teachings is the belief that the follows are some how better than the non followers. If by "most", you mean Christianity and Islam, then yes. Christianity, Islam and Judaism...its because they all follow the teachings of abraham. essentially they are all the same with a few tweaks.
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On September 08 2008 12:38 Kennigit wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2008 12:34 Folca wrote: Christians are almost always very misleaded, such as "Is it right for a lot of Christians to tell people who are non-believers that they're going to hell in attempts to convert them... when Jesus says love your neighbor as yourself?" Christians dont quite understand to have a gentle saying, instead of an almost "hypocrite" sort of talking -.-
:edit: does that make any sense? Keep your generalized bullshit comments to yourself I'll take that as a yes
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