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masami.sc
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States445 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-28 18:01:06
August 28 2008 16:33 GMT
#1
So I'm officially a college student now. I'm attending New York University. Interestingly, I don't feel like I'm in college at all. I mean, I can't even identify if there's a campus or not, unless Washington Square Park can be called a campus. As soon as I step out of my classes, I'm thrust out into the bustling streets of New York.

The streets of New York can be intimidating at first. The sidewalks are cramped with people, congested with hawking vendors and littered with pitiful beggars. Ironically, the level of interaction between these disparate, human entities is basically non-existent. I followed suit, disregarding the people around me, focusing only on myself. In a short week, I became a flaming incarnation of self-centered narcissism. I would brush people off like Altair from Assassin's Creed. I was a contagious source of insensitivity and apathy.

What the fuck. I just didn't care about the people around me.

I thought I knew it all, but in reality I didn't have a clue at all.

But today, I listened. I encountered a poor hip hop artist promoting his album in the streets. He stopped me, trying to hand me his album. I tried to brush the man off, just as I did to the thousands of other people in the streets around me. He claimed that his album was "positive hip-hop", different from the modern rap (eg. soulja boy) that plagues the music industry. I listened, being an avid hip-hop fan myself. We shared our thoughts and had a brief conversation in the middle of the bustling sidewalk. It was an honest dialogue, and it left me feeling just a little bit less alone. I headed to the library and sat down at a computer and listened to the album I had received. I have to admit, it was an exceptionally good album. And it was then that I realized... life is unfair. Why do good artists have to go through so much trouble to have their music heard, but all soulja boy has to do is put together 3 minutes of nonsensical BULLSHIT to get every radio company in the metropolitan area to suck his dick?

Today I learned that we can't live ignoring the people around us. Because...

Ultimately, the people that surround us define us.










****
mmmmm...
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 28 2008 16:39 GMT
#2
i love you james
seriously
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36392 Posts
August 28 2008 16:42 GMT
#3
hey!

i went to nyu and felt the exact same way about school. the decentralized campus creates a certain type of independent person. my advice to you is make close friends with people from your dorm or floor the first year (what dorm are you living in?) and live with them year 2-4, because its harder to make friends at class or elsewhere.

and nyc provides tons of cool and interesting places to see and eat, i can recommend you a few if you'd like, PM me.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
August 28 2008 16:44 GMT
#4
reminds me of nujabes/shing02 etc.
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
August 28 2008 16:54 GMT
#5
Blame the people that listen to Souljah Boy. Equally bothersome is that one of the originators of Death Metal, Chuck Schuldiner, could not afford a 70k procedure to save his life. The man wasn't even a druggie; Death was just not commercially successful, despite being some of the most amasing music ever (at least, in my opinion). You probably wouldn't like Death, and I probably wouldn't really like the artist you talked to. That's just preference, and popular preference isn't our thing.

Who is to say that your artist is more deserving than Souljah Boy? Who is to say that Chuck Schuldiner contributed to anything other than a genre of screaming and noise? In the end it's all subjective, and while saying that mainstream is shit is lots of fun, it's only because we don't enjoy it. Everyone else does though.


I'm one of those to blame for cities being so impersonal. I'm never really comfortable engaging people. After conversation has started - for example with a cashier or meeting a friend's friend - it's easier, but when conversation stops and there isn't any bond, it's hard to get it going again. Exceptions are when I'm feeling really good or I am slightly inebriated.

I have a friend who is really good at being personal with strangers, and I am sometimes in awe when I see him make really comfortable conversation with people we've just met.
Kk.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 28 2008 17:02 GMT
#6
good post. i think everyone should be enthusiastic about the things they enjoy. it seems like there is a sizable group of people who disapprove of popular music but they don't go to concerts or buy media of the artists that they do approve of. that's silly. either it shouldn't bother them or they should do something about it. and this goes for pretty much everything in life -- not just music
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
-WGT-Stars-
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States888 Posts
August 28 2008 17:11 GMT
#7
Well I feel the same way about these people that promote something positive in their music, but yet some nameless faggot comes out of no where and starts making millions with three liners. If you haven't seen it yet; Soulja boy will be out of business soon.



It's already been started with him by the /b/ community.

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Soulja_boy
And I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad, The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had.
kpcrew
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1071 Posts
August 28 2008 17:14 GMT
#8
surprisingly good blog

but i got the same feeling from nyu, even though i only took a summer class there

but thats the appeal of nyu; the fact that its basically a part of the city and is downtown, right next door to soho and such
Clan Lzuruha
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
August 28 2008 17:26 GMT
#9
lol welcome to nyc
^-^
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
August 28 2008 17:31 GMT
#10
ah neato. youre the one who wanted to do judo huh. Well next week im gonna check out a few new places in Sheepsheadbay area in brooklyn if you want to come.^_^ There is a place in lower manhattan too, i could check that out as well.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
August 28 2008 17:34 GMT
#11
LMAO NYU
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 28 2008 17:34 GMT
#12
On August 29 2008 02:34 Proposal wrote:
LMAO NYU


why LMAO
?
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
August 28 2008 17:38 GMT
#13
im going to NYC today for fun muhaha
SNSD fan
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 28 2008 18:01 GMT
#14
haha I went to Pratt and I felt the exact same way as you
Im taking a break right now, but once you leave NYC man
You miss that place a fuckload

and honestly can we keep the 4chan shit inside 4chan and not bring it outside of 4chan?
dats racist
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
August 28 2008 18:33 GMT
#15
life is unfair??? oh noes...


I believe one should first delve into the psyche of his very own self before attempting to understand and connect with the others around him. Define yourself first and hopefully you'll end up being the one to define the people that surround you.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
August 28 2008 18:39 GMT
#16
Good blog.

Soulja Boy is absolute trash
Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
August 28 2008 18:48 GMT
#17
Good blog, I hate that feeling, and I feel it alot
To change is to improve, to change often is to be perfect - Winston Chruchill
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
August 28 2008 18:59 GMT
#18
I always wanted to live in nyc but I guess its different, good blog!
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 28 2008 19:19 GMT
#19
Being independent and brushing away others keeps you from being hurt. But the drawback of not being able to be comfortable with someone else outweighs distancing yourself from others.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-11 21:01:10
August 28 2008 19:35 GMT
#20
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The 74rd Issue


Letter from the Interviewer

Dear Readers,

I took over Kau spot for ever! Just playing. As he stated last week, he's in Vancouver. I'll be posting this weeks Pony Express. For those that didn't know who to send the information to, please send me them in so I can add them as well. Hope you enjoy this weeks Pony Express!

- ShoCkeyy

Staff

Kau – Editor
Bloodyc0bbler – The Stove
Chill – Strategy
Nyovne – IRC Comments
Physician – Memory Lane
{88}iNcontroL – Troll Booth Willie, The Shit Bus
NeverGG – Progamer Pics
Fontong – VOD of the Week
pangshai – Battle Report
ShoCkeyy – Interviews

Table of Contents

Serious Business and Funsies ................ p1
The Stove .............................................. p2
Chalk Talk ............................................. p3
Semi-Funny IRC Comment of the Week ... p4
Progamer Photos ................................... p5
Random Image of the Week .................... p6
A Walk Down Memory Lane .................... p7
Troll Booth Willie .................................... p8
The Shit Bus .......................................... p8
Best of Blogs ......................................... p9
Ban of the Week .................................... p10
Vod of the Week .................................... p11
Interviews .............................................. p12

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  • Injected with what?!

  • And The winners are...

  • Blame video games!

  • Lend a hand to Moscow

  • Society has stats.


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  • Close Thread Thread.

  • Where is Dronebabo?

  • I want my free food...

  • Funny when you're high of course.


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from Dronebabo's birthday.

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from Psyonic_Reavers blog
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On May 07 2009 05:14 CubEdIn wrote:
...so he went outside, waited for his friend to come out and beat him with a brick?


....fucking camper.


Psyonic_Reaver United States. May 08 2009 06:34. Posts 562 PM Profile Blog Quote
Oh they've changed all right. Changed the maps you play on. =p


On May 08 2009 09:38 yesplz wrote:
Plan C
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-TL.net.. home of proud young parents and people who should never be allowed near kids.

The Shit Bus

On May 10 2009 02:20 fusionsdf wrote:
In a ZvP thread:
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On May 09 2009 23:40 Stimpacked wrote:
emp the fuck out of them... haha




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  • EsX_Raptor teaches grammar

  • Konadora shows you Singapore.
  • And again.

  • Tips on Studying.

  • ToT vs RoX Battle Report.

  • This guy is a real satanist.

  • Girl tips once again...

  • Raped in Court.

  • Into Celebrity's?

  • How much of a razer fan are you?



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R3condite was just temp banned for 2 days by vGl-CoW.

That account was created on 2008-08-02 16:52:54 and had 845 posts.

Reason: "tl:dr" is not an acceptable post

next time make it something along the line of "pardon me, esteemed gent, but it would appear that my attention span is too feeble to process any message that lasts longer than the sound of a toilet being flushed. my sincerest apologies and a good day to you and yours.


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Now with Battle Report! Thanks pangshai!

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http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/12016_Casy_vs_RorO

This week's vod of the week is the proleague game between casy and roro. With ace being 2 up already, this game was a must win for roro, but casy had some tricks up his sleeves to throw roro off his game.

The battle unfolds on outsider, with casy taking the bottom right position and roro taking top right. Casy quickly reveals plans to get aggressive quickly, opening with a proxy 8 rax at the mineral only, directly between the 2 mains.

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With roro's overlord going in the wrong direction, and his drone scout missing the forward rax by mere inches, it looked like luck was against roro today. As his drone reached casy's main, a handful of SCVs begun to make their way out, setting off the first alarm bells. Unfortunately for roro, with his 12 hatch/11pool build, he was in no position to defend the rush, and as the bunker was nearing completion, he knew the expansion was lost, and he cancelled the hatchery.

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With lings on the way, and expansion plans abandoned, roro started a lair with his only hatchery in his main, while casy decided to cancel his almost completed bunker, opting to start his refinery and then factory. Having kept his drone alive in casy's main, roro was privy to all that casy was doing, starting his spire and retaking his nat after his lings had forced casy's marines home.

As the game continued, casy added 2 more raxes and an academy, upon completion of his factory, and it seemed he was going to go for a drop. However, roro's spire was done, and with mutalisks on the way, casy's defense of a mere 6 marines, no turrets, and his academy just done, looked to be shaky.


As the mutalisks spawned, a stray vulture was quickly dealt with, and the small group hurried down to casy's main along with 6 speedlings. Despite having bought himself some time with the vulture, casy's defense was still a paltry 9marines with no stim and 2 medics.

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Roro promptly loses 2 mutalisks shortly after this

I think, in the hands of a more competent muta micro, this would've been it for casy, but with 3 rax hard at work, he replenished his marine numbers faster than roro could add to his muta count, with his few drones and 1 extractor. Roro's attempts at harass did not pay off, and he was unable to put a dent in casy's quickly growing marine group. A starport was on the way, and if vessels followed, that'd put an end to roro's harass, and with it, his only chance at the game.

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After accumulating a group or so of marines, casy finally got sick of roro's underwhelming attempts at harass, and ran his stimmed marines across the map, aiming to once again put roro's nat out of comission, and force roro's mutalisks back to defend. With 2 sunkens thrown up in haste and about 8 mutalisks for defense, roro's nat was fine for the time being. Roro's mutas however, were forced to engage casy's marines in the open ground of the centre of the map now, where he strangely did better at picking off a couple of marines before giving up and flying down to casy's main again.

Strange choice for roro, as his mutas were quite key to the defense of his nat, and with his mutas out of position, casy stimmed his marines and attacked the 2 defending sunkens which were taken out with relative ease. Luckily for him, the mutas made it back just as the 2nd sunken fell, and with the muta drone combo, he cleaned up casy's reinforcements as well,

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You could see panic in casy's eyes after the loss of that army. Lurkers were now morphing at roro's nat, and things looked even despite casy's early game advantage. With his remaining mutalisks and a couple of scourge, roro made a foray into casy's main, hoping to scourge the first vessel. However, fast reactions for casy landed him an irradiate on the group, netting him some good damage on the 3 or so mutalisks that remained.

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Roro then decided to switch tactics to a lurker contain, but casy was more than ready, and a tank forced the burrowed lurkers to retreat, allowing his army down the ramp. Hoping to catch casy's army in a poor position, roro ran his 5 lurkers in to engage casy's army of 1 marine medic group and 1 tank and vessel, but good spread micro for casy netted him 2 lurker kills and forced the rest to retreat.

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Reinforcing with a second tank, casy continued his push onwards to roro's nat, where roro had morphed more lurkers in preparation of a flank. Not wanting to fall for it, casy tried to engage the flanking party of 6 lurkers first, and being forced to a corner, roro had no choice but to engage. With some good micro once again, casy defeats all 9 or so lurkers with his army despite losing his vessel, coming out of the battle with about half of his army still alive.

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Immediately following the engagement, a drop lands in roro's main and the drones are quickly pulled to the nat. Because of a severe lack of fighting units on roro's side, casy's drop wreaks a tonne of havoc in his main while another army from casy heads up the front to roro's nat. After losing the couple of lurkers that he had for defense, roro knows the game is up and ggs out.

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Old school style game from casy, sticking with 1 base play, and relying on solid micro, reminiscent of boxer's old style. The early bunker rush put him in an advantage and forced his opponent into an unfamiliar situation, which he further compounded on by sticking to 1 base play. Nice to see some of these games once in a while.


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An Interview with none other than:

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ShoCkeyy: First tell me and the readers a little about yourself

Hot_Bid: I was born in China and smuggled out in a suitcase at the age of 4. I lived in New York and New Jersey for most of my childhood, went to NYU for undergrad and now I'm at the University of Michigan Law School; second year student at Michigan

I don't play many computer games outside of StarCraft, and I don't visit many forums outside of TeamLiquid. As recently as just a few years ago I wasn't a very "internet" person, but here I am now very involved with this site.

If you were to travel back in time and tell 2006 me that I would be flying cross country to a gaming convention and stay with people I've only met over the internet, I'd have said you were crazy.

If you told 2006 me that I'd be staying up until 4:30 AM to watch koreans play a computer game, I'd have said you were crazy too.

Funny how things change so much.

ShoCkeyy: Yea, this is true! So I'm guessing 2006 was when you joined TL?

Hot_Bid: No, I registered in 2003, I wasn't heavily into it really until 2005-2006
that's when Saro, who you may know as "the original coder" asked me to head a forum roundup project similar to PX called LiquiScoop.

ShoCkeyy: Oh yes, I remember that! When you got asked to lead LiquiScoop, what was your first reaction?

Hot_Bid: I thought this would be a cool thing to do. I became good friends with IntoTheWow and dronebabo, and LS helpers like Smurg and lil.sis. LiquiScoop turned out to be a lot of work for us, and ultimately led to its death. We weren't as dedicated or persistent as you guys, that's for sure. I think LS barely lasted five months, and while myself and ITW are still sane, it drove Smurg and lil.sis into exile and led to dronebabo's descent into madness. Very few people know this, but I am one of the three TeamLiquid users alive that have actually seen dronebabo in real life. He was an ordinary kid, but post-scoop he is now an anime image one liner spamming gollum, and the internet is his Mordor.
We got some cool looking progamer cards out of it though, check those out in the articles section.

More on dronebabo:
His mind works like a four year old's in real life, but when you plug him into the web he's like some sort of internet savant.

Two examples come to mind, first when we were hiding easter eggs for the initial TSL announcement in the TL layout, Sonuvbob and I were betting on when it would be discovered (the hidden link under the poll in that weird blue space)

ShoCkeyy: Do you have a picture of him?

Hot_Bid: I did take a picture of him but when i uploaded it to my computer he wasn't there, I swear to god i took one of him, but the image is just of a blank room

ShoCkeyy: Ghost, vampire maybe?

Hot_Bid: I sometimes wonder if he actually exists or if he's just in my mind
anyway bob said that people would find the hidden link within 24 hours, i said more like a few days and dronebabo found it within 2 minutes. Two minutes! we were still talking about our bet on how long itd take people and he already found it

ShoCkeyy: Oh no... What a bummer...

Hot_Bid: Second example is, I registered a username liquid`nazgui (with an i at the end) and trolled all the staff members with really hilarious PMs.
everyone fell for it but when I PM'd dronebabo he sent a PM back within 2 minutes figuring out the trick he is not someone to be trifled with.

ShoCkeyy: Guess not! Now we all know. Did you ever think that you would be in the position you are today because of the LiquiScoop?

Hot_Bid: I wish I could describe a meteoric rise to power, where I plotted and destroyed people in my path, but I can't. I was just an ordinary user who liked to make jokes and troll a few years ago. All of my "promotions" occurred out of necessity or weird circumstances. I needed to be blue to post LiquiScoop, then I needed to be red to edit people's writing when TLFE launched.

I became an Admin after TSL, when it was necessary to discuss sponsorship and other site planning things with the other Admins. Now I feel pretty connected and responsible for the site. In addition to admin work, I currently work on Fantasy stuff with Abydos1 and semioldguy.
And I will hopefully be covering the next season's MSL, last time was really fun doing it, though I probably won't think that when I have to edit another 100 screenshots of VODs into my newsposts hehe.

ShoCkeyy: As it grows and changes, what potential do you see in TL? Can we own the internet one day?

Hot_Bid: TeamLiquid has a lot of potential. It has great opportunity to be the #1 SC2 site for quite some time. The strength we have over other sites is our large yet tightly knit community and our staff. Not many site owners can be as flexible and smart as Nazgul, who does a lot of behind the scenes work but never really meddles or micromanages the other staff. I see a lot of other site owners being very dictatorial or greedy, but Naz usually lets us do our own thing. There's a great amount of trust among our staff - it's been like six years and we've had one truly bad staff promotion (I think?). I see the reds and blues as one big staff family that sometimes has flaws and arguments, but in the end it doesn't even matter because we come together.

Its the same for our community, i feel our users have a great sense of ownership for the site. They feel like they are a part of TL and that the site represents something. It's not just a place to get VODs or to check who won last night's match or to find an opponent. Rather, it's somewhere you can chill out with friends and really be proud of being a member. We want to continue that sort of bond into SC2.

Our greatest asset right now is our reputation among our users and the connection they have with each other and TL. Not many forums have it on the level that we do.

ShoCkeyy: Talking about the TL forums and its connection. Everyone knows you as an amazing troll. What was your favorite moment in trolling moment in TL history?

Hot_Bid: My trolling days are behind me and I don't troll anymore. Trolling is bad for the forum and a waste of time. Don't troll. Stay in school kids.

But if I had to pick a moment...

It would probably be the thread on World Wonders, where people were convinced I was trying to nominate Central Park as a world wonder.

That or the the private exchange I had with zulu_nation8 where he thought I was Klazart.

The World Wonder one was probably the best because I didn't have to use a fake username.

ShoCkeyy: How did that turn out to be in the end?

Hot_Bid: People argued with me for several pages before realizing I wasn't serious. Overall, I actually don't troll that much, but my "troll rep" really outpaces the amount of actual trolling I do (which is actually very little). Now, everything that sounds even remotely fake, the staff suspect its me.

ShoCkeyy: What was your favorite moment in TL?

Hot_Bid: The first TSL broadcast was the culmination of the most work and preparation I've done for TL, but my "favorite moment" has to be meeting Savior, Reach, Nal_rA, Xellos, Iris, and Yellow backstage at Blizzcon and giving them the TL cheerfuls. For quite some time it was just me, Manifesto7, the six progamers, and that hot translator lady. Overall that whole Blizzcon was awesome.

ShoCkeyy: If there was one thing you had to give up for TL, This thing being something of importance to you, what would it be?

Hot_Bid: I gave up part of my social life already.

I used to not really be an internet person, and I would have a relatively normal social life. But recently, I became more comfortable staying home, where I would screw around on the internet or watch progaming or play some BW. There's this stigma attached to being a "nerdy internet guy" but I really don't see that. I often actually choose to do these things over going out. It's about balance, if you're comfortable and confident with these sort of choices then there's no problem. Often people are insecure about this and feel they need to show others that they have a girlfriend, or they go to parties, or that they aren't some nerd who just plays games. You don't need to do that. Sure there are people who may fit right into the stereotypical internet loser, but there are plenty who don't and are perfectly well rounded. I know this isn't what your question was asking but I went there anyway.

Usually theres a guy who spends all his time on the internet then busts out as this party-hard socialite in college, I suppose for me the process happened in reverse.

ShoCkeyy: Good enough! Last question, what do you think about the Pony Express, and how it's going so far?

Hot_Bid: I love it, and I think you guys are doing a great job. It's really smart to spread all the work among a bunch of people. I think a more non-staff driven community thing like PX is perfect for our forum. I read it every time it comes out.

ShoCkeyy: What did you think about the last interview? and who do you really think it was?

Hot_Bid: I don't really know, who was it? micronesia?

ShoCkeyy: You just ruined my ending statement. But yes it was Micronesia.

Hot_Bid: Did you know?

ShoCkeyy: Did I know what?

Hot_Bid: micronesia was the worst player (other than Last Romantic and Fakesteve) in our summer league last year he was ranked even lower than GTR its his deepest darkest secret. I think he went like 3-12 or something and was whining about imbalanced matchups..

ShoCkeyy: Oh mah gawd, I probably would of done worse so meh

A little game between me and Hot_Bid, where I say a word that deals with TeamLiquid and he replys with what pops into his head.

ShoCkeyy: fakesteve

Hot_Bid: e-penis

ShoCkeyy: kau

Hot_Bid: burnout (soon)

ShoCkeyy: blogs

Hot_Bid: emo

ShoCkeyy: incontrol

Hot_Bid: large

ShoCkeyy: idra

Hot_Bid: fuckingskillessnewbies

ShoCkeyy: honestea

Hot_Bid: missing

ShoCkeyy: lilsusie

Hot_Bid: boobs

ShoCkeyy: chill

Hot_Bid: angry

ShoCkeyy: artosis

Hot_Bid: nevergg

ShoCkeyy: sonuvbob

Hot_Bid: wizard#2

ShoCkeyy: nevergg

Hot_Bid: asianmanfetish (sry artosis)

ShoCkeyy: charliemurphy

Hot_Bid: imbecile or greatest troll ever

ShoCkeyy: savior

Hot_Bid: bonjwa

ShoCkeyy: reach

Hot_Bid: REACH

ShoCheyy: jaedong

Hot_Bid: skyhighftw

ShoCkeyy: teamliquid

Hot_Bid: .net

ShoCkeyy: So any shout outs?!

Hot_Bid: Shoutout to Peanut, my #1 homegirl call me yo. (im making the phone gesture with my hand right now)





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A lot of things are missing but did you enjoy it?
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naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1337 Posts
August 28 2008 19:46 GMT
#21
On August 29 2008 04:19 ieatkids5 wrote:
Being independent and brushing away others keeps you from being hurt. But the drawback of not being able to be comfortable with someone else outweighs distancing yourself from others.


this
hmm.
Elgar
Profile Joined May 2007
United States231 Posts
August 28 2008 20:30 GMT
#22
Welcome to NY.
Pain, fear leaving the body. Pride, what your team is made of.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25997 Posts
August 28 2008 20:52 GMT
#23
I got into this drunken argument a few nights ago. I'll try to put it all together into a coherant argument but I know it's going to end up mishmashed.

I don't think it's right to look down at people for the music they make or the music the like. Some people seem to choose to incorporate the difficulty into how appealing they find listening to a song to be. That's perfectly valid. But I don't think it's fair to belittle people who choose not to do that.

Where would you draw the line? Some function that's maximized for mainstream appeal and mechanical difficulty? I think people already do this themselves, they weigh music based on its "agreeability", depth and a myriad of other criteria. Just like any art, the closer you are to understanding the medium the more you can appreciate the depth. But does that make your opinion any more valid than someone with shallower eyes? At their level of listening, maybe simpler music actually does sound better because they don't appreciate the depth and get overwhelmed.

So in talking about the guy on the street who made "better" music than Soulja Boy, I kind of find that sentence hard to stomach. I think he makes different music, which you appreciate, and most likely worked much harder at it, which you also appreciate; but remember you're looking through a warped lense. If the track came on the radio instead of some guy on the street, you probably would still like it better, but would you like it as much?

It's hard to listen to any music objectively. When I listen to Binary Finary, without fail, I have the stupidest shit-eating grin on my face. Because it reminds me of a lot of great memories which have tied themselves together with the music. Similarly, Audioslave reminds me of hearing my housemate play them 20 hours a day. Maybe had I been exposed to Audioslave differently I would have a different opinion of them, but for now I can't stand a single one of their tracks.

Hmmm. I guess I'd just like to see more of "This is why you should appreciate this over what you like" as opposed to "What you like is lesser than what I like".

This applied to a lot of things and I myself am guilty of it in tons of things, but I think I'm mostly sensative to it regarding music.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
August 29 2008 00:48 GMT
#24
haha, pretty sure I saw the exact same guy today
I was in a hurry though, so I just said no thanks and went by

Anyway NYU tends to divide people, some of my friends absolutely hate it and are just here to finish their degrees, while other kids fall in love with the city.

It's true that it's somewhat difficult to make friends at NYU. Like hot Hot_Bid said, you should really focus on making friends during the first year (and first few months), because that is the most open people are going to be for four years. People find their friends pretty quickly, and become start to become closed off. But in the end, it's all about yourself. If you're friendly and open, you can keep meeting new people and have a very interesting social life in the city.

Oh, just wondering, what dorm are you at?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
August 29 2008 01:50 GMT
#25
Nice post.

I'm attending NYU too!

Graduate school though.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
August 29 2008 03:48 GMT
#26
On August 29 2008 01:44 ilovejonn wrote:
reminds me of nujabes/shing02 etc.

JOSH, WHERE ARE YOU?!
masami.sc
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States445 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-29 16:27:29
August 29 2008 15:47 GMT
#27
On August 29 2008 09:48 Waxangel wrote:
haha, pretty sure I saw the exact same guy today
I was in a hurry though, so I just said no thanks and went by

Anyway NYU tends to divide people, some of my friends absolutely hate it and are just here to finish their degrees, while other kids fall in love with the city.

It's true that it's somewhat difficult to make friends at NYU. Like hot Hot_Bid said, you should really focus on making friends during the first year (and first few months), because that is the most open people are going to be for four years. People find their friends pretty quickly, and become start to become closed off. But in the end, it's all about yourself. If you're friendly and open, you can keep meeting new people and have a very interesting social life in the city.

Oh, just wondering, what dorm are you at?


i'm in university hall. you?

On August 29 2008 05:52 Chill wrote:
I got into this drunken argument a few nights ago. I'll try to put it all together into a coherant argument but I know it's going to end up mishmashed.

I don't think it's right to look down at people for the music they make or the music the like. Some people seem to choose to incorporate the difficulty into how appealing they find listening to a song to be. That's perfectly valid. But I don't think it's fair to belittle people who choose not to do that.

Where would you draw the line? Some function that's maximized for mainstream appeal and mechanical difficulty? I think people already do this themselves, they weigh music based on its "agreeability", depth and a myriad of other criteria. Just like any art, the closer you are to understanding the medium the more you can appreciate the depth. But does that make your opinion any more valid than someone with shallower eyes? At their level of listening, maybe simpler music actually does sound better because they don't appreciate the depth and get overwhelmed.

So in talking about the guy on the street who made "better" music than Soulja Boy, I kind of find that sentence hard to stomach. I think he makes different music, which you appreciate, and most likely worked much harder at it, which you also appreciate; but remember you're looking through a warped lense. If the track came on the radio instead of some guy on the street, you probably would still like it better, but would you like it as much?

It's hard to listen to any music objectively. When I listen to Binary Finary, without fail, I have the stupidest shit-eating grin on my face. Because it reminds me of a lot of great memories which have tied themselves together with the music. Similarly, Audioslave reminds me of hearing my housemate play them 20 hours a day. Maybe had I been exposed to Audioslave differently I would have a different opinion of them, but for now I can't stand a single one of their tracks.

Hmmm. I guess I'd just like to see more of "This is why you should appreciate this over what you like" as opposed to "What you like is lesser than what I like".

This applied to a lot of things and I myself am guilty of it in tons of things, but I think I'm mostly sensative to it regarding music.


I was thinking about that too. Maybe Soulja Boy is actually a very talented musician who intelligently caters to the mainstream audience; the mainstream audience being... a large percentage of the United States population. Anyway... I was thinking that maybe he planned everything out, and sincerely thought about what the people really wanted out of hip hop music, namely: bitches, hoes, supersoaking hoes, supermanning hoes, YAHHHHHHHHing hoes, YAHHHHH... and that's when I realize, wow, I have been smoking way too much weed... at which point, it occurs to me that I have never smoked a blunt in my entire life. I'm not sure about other people, but I think that music should have at least some meaning to it. And I sincerely hope that Soulja Boy is just a passing fad, because if he can be seen as a talented hip hop artist for creating a form of music that is agreeable to a mainstream, public audience, then that means humanity as a whole has lost its ability to think in coherent sentences or derive meaning from art. Therefore, I would like to keep thinking that Soulja Boy just got randomly lucky and somehow ignited an evanescent fad type of music that will perish in a few short years. At least, that's what I'm hoping...
mmmmm...
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
August 29 2008 16:02 GMT
#28
I felt the exact same way when I was in NYC as well.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
August 29 2008 16:36 GMT
#29
This was my concern with going to a city campus. I was much happier with the traditional large college campus.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
August 29 2008 22:48 GMT
#30
oh I live out in brooklyn, and I was wearing my TL shirt around today, but no one seemed to notice
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