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CyuntiyuL
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada1740 Posts
July 08 2008 04:29 GMT
#21
i'm starting to see a lot more othello games lately on east. perhaps othello will be the next LT/Luna. i wouldn't mind that for a while.
secret base
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
July 08 2008 04:39 GMT
#22
On July 08 2008 11:51 Chuiu wrote:
At least its not LT anymore.



the funny thing is, python IS LT, with a little more balance. Its fucking ridiculous I cannot stand these retards who only play these 3 maps: python, Luna and LT. They are ok maps but FUCKING BRANCH OUT YOU THUNDERCUNTS!! I will make a game on say, Blue storm *sick map and then some clusterfuck will join and swiftly say "re python?" FUCKA YOUA SLUTWAFFLE!! I will not fucking remake MY game ON MOTW (Bluestorm, python, katrina and something else were the maps) for your pathetic cockmonger pussy startegy you practiced against your douche bag east friends earlier that day on python. it was a good map for the first 5505 seasons of Iccup. Luna is another faggotry map. It became a python clone as soon as they reintrodouched it into the map pool. One week it was Luna for motw then the next week i saw a bunch of fuckshovel retards making 1v1 Lunas all over again. ITS A SHIT MAP! dont even get me started on LT its................

Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
July 08 2008 04:43 GMT
#23
On July 08 2008 13:39 Hypnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2008 11:51 Chuiu wrote:
At least its not LT anymore.



the funny thing is, python IS LT, with a little more balance. Its fucking ridiculous I cannot stand these retards who only play these 3 maps: python, Luna and LT. They are ok maps but FUCKING BRANCH OUT YOU THUNDERCUNTS!! I will make a game on say, Blue storm *sick map and then some clusterfuck will join and swiftly say "re python?" FUCKA YOUA SLUTWAFFLE!! I will not fucking remake MY game ON MOTW (Bluestorm, python, katrina and something else were the maps) for your pathetic cockmonger pussy startegy you practiced against your douche bag east friends earlier that day on python. it was a good map for the first 5505 seasons of Iccup. Luna is another faggotry map. It became a python clone as soon as they reintrodouched it into the map pool. One week it was Luna for motw then the next week i saw a bunch of fuckshovel retards making 1v1 Lunas all over again. ITS A SHIT MAP! dont even get me started on LT its................



I agree with you for the most part....

Luna and Python are boring

But Lost Temple is insanely awesome.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
July 08 2008 04:44 GMT
#24
I am terran so i LOVE LT. But i fucking hate it because everyone thinks its a fair map. Its not
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 08 2008 05:11 GMT
#25
On July 08 2008 12:04 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Why not just make a game yourself, or, if you can't make, go into the channel and say "1v1 *rank*, *map*", specifying whatever map you want to play, or simply asking for motw?

That is exactly what I do. I make my own game, but half the time you gotta wait a long time to get someone to join. Or people join, see the map, and leave.

I can find games, I am just venting because I am a little sick of python and at my rank it seems to be what everyone wants to play.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
July 08 2008 06:05 GMT
#26
You want more cheese with that whine?
Do your best, God will do the rest.
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
July 08 2008 06:13 GMT
#27
Lost Temple is by far my favorite. Python is alright too.

I'm not a big fan of learning maps. I just like to play starcraft. Ad it's cool learning all the intricacies of just a few maps.

I don't iccup though or w.e, just bnet.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
EnergyTraction
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada233 Posts
July 08 2008 06:18 GMT
#28
I don't see how you can see 90% Python on ICCUP...I see TONS of public games hosted on the MOTWs, especially on Athena last week and Andromeda this week
He who adores the Beast shall drink of the wrath of God
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11557 Posts
July 08 2008 06:53 GMT
#29
Python is so boring ;;

But I play it anyways because in PvT, it favors P. I hate Luna with a passion because of the fact that I can't get a 3rd gas PvZ. I'm not big on Blue Storm either. I do like Peaks, Othello, and Andromeda.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 08 2008 08:24 GMT
#30
On July 08 2008 12:37 arb wrote:
MOTW = 130% more exp


No it's not, it's 30% more.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
kpcrew
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1071 Posts
July 08 2008 14:02 GMT
#31
i like othello colloseum and wuthering
i also like bgh, hunters and python

i forgot who said whatever about python on us east but its untrue
if you look at tvb, theres a ton of fastest and bgh games and they are actually a ton of fun
i find myself playing more of bgh than i do 1v1 nowadays
Clan Lzuruha
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
July 08 2008 15:48 GMT
#32
Python's the only map.

Oh wait, I should revise that.

Python's the only map I learned the 4 FE's on and thus the only map I am willing to play in case I end up playing zerg.

+ Show Spoiler +
Okay, I'm kidding, but it's pretty close -_- Learning to play new maps is a bitch. You have to go into single player and play the computer and shit and learn different strategies, good expo locations, timings, other important problems like how big your choke is and whether it's impossible to block or not (cough cough longinus cough have you guys ever tried PvPing on longinus and NOT going 2gate? /wrists). And the worst by far is figuring out the FE builds for PvZ. You have to go into single player, play vs a computer, enter a shitload of cheats, and mess around for a while figuring out the best locations for your buildings on all the starting locations. You then have to make sure you have these memorized and you ahve to restart the game and actually try doing them to make sure you have them really memorized because if you go into a 1v1 game and realize that your pylon placement was in relation to your nexus, which obviously isn't there yet, you're fucked.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-08 18:55:44
July 08 2008 18:52 GMT
#33
I am with you on this one. I always like to play MOTW not just for the points, but because it gives me exposure to a wider variety of maps. I think people who only play Python are going to be handicapping themselves since every map has unique traits that make certain strategies more effective on it..

They can train mechanics on Python, but playing a wider variety of maps seems like more fun and also more useful for training. Plus 130% is just cool.

edit: and holy crap is it even worse on West/East. It feels like chances of me getting anyone to join games on any map but Python is close to zero at times off of iccup. At least iccup you can motivate people by putting MOTW in your game name.

Although I have had some cool 2v2s on East on Wuthering. People join and have never played it but usually either say "wow cool map"/"awesome a new map" or the more negative "fucking unbalanced shitfaced whore map use python!!! Science proves it!"
#1 Shuttle Fan.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
July 08 2008 18:56 GMT
#34
On July 09 2008 00:48 -orb- wrote:
Python's the only map.

Oh wait, I should revise that.

Python's the only map I learned the 4 FE's on and thus the only map I am willing to play in case I end up playing zerg.

+ Show Spoiler +
Okay, I'm kidding, but it's pretty close -_- Learning to play new maps is a bitch. You have to go into single player and play the computer and shit and learn different strategies, good expo locations, timings, other important problems like how big your choke is and whether it's impossible to block or not (cough cough longinus cough have you guys ever tried PvPing on longinus and NOT going 2gate? /wrists). And the worst by far is figuring out the FE builds for PvZ. You have to go into single player, play vs a computer, enter a shitload of cheats, and mess around for a while figuring out the best locations for your buildings on all the starting locations. You then have to make sure you have these memorized and you ahve to restart the game and actually try doing them to make sure you have them really memorized because if you go into a 1v1 game and realize that your pylon placement was in relation to your nexus, which obviously isn't there yet, you're fucked.



Yes, but you still get wrecked on python by better players so why not learn new maps? oh and i HATE these fucking slutbags that call python PHYTON.
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
July 08 2008 18:59 GMT
#35
On July 09 2008 03:56 Hypnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2008 00:48 -orb- wrote:
Python's the only map.

Oh wait, I should revise that.

Python's the only map I learned the 4 FE's on and thus the only map I am willing to play in case I end up playing zerg.

+ Show Spoiler +
Okay, I'm kidding, but it's pretty close -_- Learning to play new maps is a bitch. You have to go into single player and play the computer and shit and learn different strategies, good expo locations, timings, other important problems like how big your choke is and whether it's impossible to block or not (cough cough longinus cough have you guys ever tried PvPing on longinus and NOT going 2gate? /wrists). And the worst by far is figuring out the FE builds for PvZ. You have to go into single player, play vs a computer, enter a shitload of cheats, and mess around for a while figuring out the best locations for your buildings on all the starting locations. You then have to make sure you have these memorized and you ahve to restart the game and actually try doing them to make sure you have them really memorized because if you go into a 1v1 game and realize that your pylon placement was in relation to your nexus, which obviously isn't there yet, you're fucked.



Yes, but you still get wrecked on python by better players so why not learn new maps? oh and i HATE these fucking slutbags that call python PHYTON.


Lol because when I play new maps I get wrecked by worse players as well.

There's nothing quite more frustrating than starting a PvZ on a map you've either never played or only played a couple times and having the zerg run speedlings into your base mondi-style because you didn't know how to block your choke.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-08 19:17:57
July 08 2008 19:17 GMT
#36
On July 09 2008 03:56 Hypnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2008 00:48 -orb- wrote:
Python's the only map.

Oh wait, I should revise that.

Python's the only map I learned the 4 FE's on and thus the only map I am willing to play in case I end up playing zerg.

+ Show Spoiler +
Okay, I'm kidding, but it's pretty close -_- Learning to play new maps is a bitch. You have to go into single player and play the computer and shit and learn different strategies, good expo locations, timings, other important problems like how big your choke is and whether it's impossible to block or not (cough cough longinus cough have you guys ever tried PvPing on longinus and NOT going 2gate? /wrists). And the worst by far is figuring out the FE builds for PvZ. You have to go into single player, play vs a computer, enter a shitload of cheats, and mess around for a while figuring out the best locations for your buildings on all the starting locations. You then have to make sure you have these memorized and you ahve to restart the game and actually try doing them to make sure you have them really memorized because if you go into a 1v1 game and realize that your pylon placement was in relation to your nexus, which obviously isn't there yet, you're fucked.



Yes, but you still get wrecked on python by better players so why not learn new maps? oh and i HATE these fucking slutbags that call python PHYTON.


1v1 D+/C- Phytongg.

Well, it worked, I joined the game ASAP :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3356 Posts
July 08 2008 23:16 GMT
#37
I actually don't mind mixing it up and playing LT/Luna here and there. I still play with some clan members on USEast who only plays LT and I don't mind it at all. I sometimes miss playing on R-Point and RH3 etc.

I do share the same thinking as -orb-. I don't mind to start playing WH or Othello or what not. PvP/PvT is pretty eazy to learn. I would just have to get used to the cliffs on Othello and stuff but its PvZ thats annoying. If you FE wrong then it can be auto loss to 9 pool speedlings and stuff. I actually am one of theose ppl that perfer to play on a map I've known like if their is 4 motw and its Long/Katrina/Loki/Faio then I will play on Longinus. I've actually never played an iccup game on faio or loki even though last season I had 500 games played.

Now I think about it... How did any of us learn tau cross or longinus? Yes everyone was playing it and we started to learn it cause we like SC and want games on ICCup. Its always like this. We follow the map pool of the korean scene [not 100% but we do] so if Othello and WH and maps like that stay in OSL/MSL/GOM/PL then more ppl will be more confortable with them and they will start to be played.

I share the thoughts of many ppl here. I will only play a map that is MOTW most of the time. Even last week when I've never really played on the other maps. Well, I've played on Katrina but I dont like that map that much [lol and I'm a protoss player] and I saw that the MOTW were Loki/Katrina/Athena and something else then I looked at the maps and saw ppl playig athena and it looked alright [even though i find PvT very hard on it lol and end up dt rusing like much] but i'm playing for practice too.

I hate it sometimes when no-one joins your game and you have to play someone on non-motw map like Python and stuff. I think the reason ppl dont pla on new maps especially pvz and stuff is becuase they dont want to lose their points or get bad stats becuase they need time in getting used to te map and building placemebt and such.

/end of post
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