• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:46
CEST 23:46
KST 06:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature3Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18Serral wins EWC 202549
Community News
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris18Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new and old maps do you want in the next 1v1 ladder pool? (SC2) : Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW AKA finder tool Maps with Neutral Command Centers Victoria gamers
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro24 Group A [ASL20] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1830 users

1

Blogs > DeadVessel
Post a Reply
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-15 05:29:29
June 15 2008 05:19 GMT
#1
Please ignore this post. I put this here for personal reference.


WeMade

[image loading]


WeMade FOX is a breeding ground for champions. It’s home to NaDa, Mind, and Casy, all previous StarLeaguers with NaDa being the most decorated of the three. Granted Casy won his OSL while playing for OGN this is still a great environment for producing potential StarLeaguers. The new faces of WeMade show an amazing amount of potential. Pure has amazing mechanics and game sense; BaBy, while not having many games in Proleague and not having gotten into any leagues yet, is still very young and has time to break into the scene; HerO, who isn’t quite as strong as Pure but is still a common face on WeMade’s Proleague roster, has been pulling in some results lately and is finally showing some potential to rise above mediocrity; and finally Rock, I know some of you are thinking “Rock? He’s not a new face.” well Rock has recently been playing very well and has a shot at winning an OSL this time (It’s a very small shot considering the OSL has Flash, Luxury, JangBi, and BeSt but still a shot) and if he keeps performing we might see him in Proleague 1v1s again instead of being exclusively 2v2.

With all of this WeMade has become a force to be reckoned with in ProLeague with such a strong line-up and is starting to field more players in MSL/OSL (Casy, NaDa, Mind, and Rock made it into the OSL and Mind, NaDa, and HerO made it into the MSL).

The Lineup



(P)Pure

[image loading]


Pure has been very impressive lately with 11-3 results, a drastic improvement from his 9-10 results in '07. Going 11-3 is impressive regardless of opponents and Pure hasn’t been playing scrubs. He has won against Stork, who is widely considered the best PvPer in the world at the moment, Anytime, Iris, and LuCifer. Pure’s only loses have come from Bisu, YoonJoong, and GuemChi (funnily all on Katrina SE).

Pure has great mechanics, game sense, and does not give up as seen in this game vs. go.go.
+ Show Spoiler +


After pulling in such strong results I don’t think it’s a stretch to say we’ll be seeing Pure in the next OSL or MSL.

(T)Mind

[image loading]


To put it bluntly, Mind is a beast--but only occasionally. When he’s on he steam rolls through anyone but,when he’s off he loses to nearly everybody. He showed great play vs. a top form Jaedong and beat the rising star BeSt but then lost to HiyA. Despite making a fast exit in the OSL and MSL and ok results in ProLeague (8-7) he is still a dominating force in the scene although, an inconsistent one.

+ Show Spoiler [Notable Games] +
+ Show Spoiler [ vs. Jaedong] +
+ Show Spoiler [ vs. BeSt] +


(Z)FireFist

[image loading]


FireFist always impresses me despite him not having really anything to show for. He stats don't do him justice. He's taken down some strong players: Ruby, Anytime, and Kal. For the longest time he's had an even W/L ratio showing that he's somewhat consistant. I'm hoping he'll break out and become a starter on WeMade's PL roster.

(P)HerO

[image loading]


HerO_V_ isn’t exactly the caliber of NaDa, Mind, or Pure but he is a consistent player on WeMade’s PL roster and manages to keep an roughly even Win/Loss record for PL and managed to make MSL this time around. He’s similar to GoodFriend in the fact that he doesn’t really lose to scrubs but he can’t beat top players. If his game vs. Flash in the recent WeMade vs. KTF PL match has any weight we might be seeing a new level of play from HerO_V_.

+ Show Spoiler [Notable Games] +
Look for the Flash vs. HerO game!


(P)Rock

[image loading]


Rock isn’t a Bisu, or an Anytime, but Rock consistently qualifies for MSL and OSL and has pretty good PvT but his PvZ and PvP is mediocre at best but he still manages to advance in MSL and OSL. Rock may not be pretty but in he brings in results. Occasionally, he will show some decent play like taking down Sea a couple times but for the most part Rock is just a consistent MSL/OSL face and WeMade’s 2v2 player.

(T)BaBy

[image loading]


There isn’t much to say about By.Baby, he’s 1-1 in PL, beating DaezanG and losing to Jaedong, making him seem not even noteworthy. But, it’s his results in Minor League that are interesting. He’s currently 5-6 but he beat Effort who is the number #1 ranked player in ML. So there is hope that BaBy will improve and become a force to reckon with like Bisu and Flash.


(T)Casy

[image loading]


Casy sucks right now, he’s been sucking for a while but, occasionally he pulls out a great TvZ win or beats someone down in TvT. But, right now he‘s just not doing anything. Maybe he will come out of his slump and start getting some play time but at the moment he’s just another name on WeMade‘s roster. Casy’s biggest problem is his TvP and that’s what seems to be holding him back. Maybe with all NaDa getting out of his slump Casy will too.

I’d like to finish this on a happy note so I’ll end this NaDa

(T)NaDa

[image loading]


NaDa has always been a common face in programming, periodically disappearing only to return and dominate for a time. NaDa is the winner of 3 OSL pins and a multitude of other podiums. Recently we hadn’t seen much of NaDa, but he’s started to impress by playing very well vs. 815 in ProLeague improving his PL Stats to 6-4. While statistically these do not say much for NaDa, but in the majority of his games he has played strong players and has played well.

I think FakeSteve describes it best in the June Power Rank
+ Show Spoiler +
NaDa made it to the round of 16 in both major leagues. And though he lost to Hwasin in a close series in MSL, and though his advancement in OSL is in jeopardy, NaDa has managed to once again look like a strong overall contendor. For the winningest player of all time, coming out of a slump is neither impossible nor a new experience. By watching NaDa play, I see entirely modern trains of thought that show me he is still adapting and learning new things. Things are looking up for the original golden boy.


+ Show Spoiler [Notable Games] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1 vs. Hwasin] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2 vs. Hwasin] +


Note: The 815 game hasn’t been uploaded yet, but keep looking for it.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

***
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
June 15 2008 05:23 GMT
#2
eh? havent I seen this before?
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
June 15 2008 05:27 GMT
#3
Nice, whats up with title
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 08:55:26
June 15 2008 05:27 GMT
#4
[image loading]

Last week Jaedong and Much faced off in the Semifinal A of the Arena MSL. Jaedong, being the ZvP powerhouse he is with a previous victory over Much in proleague, seems to be the most likely victor of this series. Both players, however, are playing some of their best Starcraft,which should lead to an exciting series of games.

Game 1

The first map was Athena, a three player map that is relatively untested with only two ZvPs played on it.

The first set begins with Much warping in at 6 O’clock while Jaedong spawns at 2 O’clock. The game looks to be a standard one with Much opening with FE and a 12 pool from Jaedong.

[image loading]


Much, scouting the 12 pool, opts to warp in a forge before his nexus to help defend against any early game zergling aggression. Knowing that his nexus will be late due to early forge/cannons Much begins to harass Jaedong’s drone at his natural to prevent a hatchery being laid down. Jaedong is eventually forced to place his hatchery off to the side.

[image loading]


Shortly after the hatchery is placed Jaedong’s zerglings pop from their eggs and proceed to kill Much’s scouting probe and Jaedong lays down his third hatchery at its proper place at his natural.

Jaedong repeatedly denies Much’s scouting with his zerglings which allows him to tech to lair without Much's knowledge. Once his lair pops Jaedong immediately lays down a spire and sends a drone to expand at 12 O'clock and shortly after to the main at 8 O'clock

[image loading]


Meanwhile, Much has teched to a stargate and has his first corsair roaming around hunting overlords. Much also scouts the spire tech and quickly lays down cannons to defend and continues to pump corsairs.

While defending against potential mutalisks Much sends out a two dark templars to scout for expansions and hopefully deal some damage. Soon Much finds Jaedong's 12 O'clock expansion and proceeds to kill the extractor and a couple Zerglings with two DTs before being forced to run away by a sunken.

[image loading]


About now Jaedong's mutalisks have popped and he begins to harras Much's main dealing little damage and eating a couple storms. In response to Jaedong's mutalisk harass Much warps in a dark archon in hopes of maelstroming the mutalisks. And that's exactly what he does as he moves out with a large Dragoon/Zealot/HighTemplar army to kill 12 O'clock.

[image loading]


After dealing with the mutalisk harass Much proceeds to raze both expansions at 12 O'clock. Eventually Jaedong cleans up the the remnants of Much's force but is left with only 3 bases to Much's 2 and a warping in 3rd.

[image loading]


Noticing Much's 3rd being created Jaedong hurries to stop it and takes out the main pylon disabling all the cannons. Jaedong then proceeds to deal more damage with his harass in Much's main by sniping high templars and another dark archon.

While Jaedong is destroying his expansion Much decides to move out but with some excellent harass Jaedong snipes the high templars in Much's army allowing him to attack it head on when Much begins to attack Jaedong's 8 O'Clock expansion. Jaedong quickly takes down Much's army then rushes to stop Much's second attempt to take a 3rd base.

Much begins to flounder and panic and begins sending out small forces in hopes of killing one of Jaedong's expansions, but due to the mobility of the mutalisks and Jaedong's quick reactions, each small attack is quelled before it can do anything severe.

[image loading]


Much tries one last ditch effort to get back in this game and attacks 8 O'clock again but Jaedong is on top of this and with another impressive bit of mutalisk micro snipes the high templar and then cleans up Much's army.

Much realizing he's defeated GGs.

(Z)Jaedong 1-0 (P)Much[gm]

Game 2

The second set was on two player map, Tiamat. Like Athena, it is a map that has been relatively untested. Jaedong was one of only two Zerg players that had ZvPed here and he had walked away with a victory over YoonJoong.

The second set begins with Jaedong spawning at bottom right while Much warps in at top left. Immediately Much opts to FE again and Jaedong decides to go a 12 pool/speed build. Much scouting this lays down a forge to defend against the zerglings.

[image loading]


Jaedong, realizing he won't be able to do much damage against Much, decides to deny scouting and tech towards a 2 hatch lair build. Much still expecting a zergling attack lays down a 3rd cannon and places probes to defend against this.

As Much begins his core, Jaedong's lair pops and Jaedong promptly lays down a spire. Soon after Much's core finishes, he places a Stargate in his main.

[image loading]


Much sensing something dastardly afoot starts a cannon at his main and natural but Jaedongs mutalisks arrive right as it finishes and kill it quickly.

[image loading]


Not being able to defend his main against Jaedong's mutalisks Much types out.

(Z)Jaedong 2-0 (P)Much[gm]

Game 3

The third set was on Colosseum, a 4 player map, which statsitically favors zerg. Jaedong having gone 2-0 previously on this map was once again the favorite in this set.

The third set begins with Much warping in at top left while Jaedong spawns at bottom left. Much opens with 1 gate at his choke while Jaedong opts for a 12 hatch at his natural. Once Much's gateway finishes he immediately begins a zealot that he sends out when it has finished to pressure Jaedong.

[image loading]


Much's harass proves to be ineffective and Jaedong quickly dispatches Much's zealot. Meanwhile Jaedong had taken his 3rd with his 3rd hatchery giving him immediate access to three gases.

Now both players settle down for a little and get their macro on. Much decides to tech towards a +1 zealot speed build while Jaedong starts a lair.

Once Jaedong's lair pops he lays down a spire and realizing what Much is doing proceeds to mass zerglings and add a couple sunkens to defend against the +1 attack.

[image loading]


After defeating Much's first attack Jaedong then sends his mutalisks to Much's main in hope of wreaking some havok but Much's cannons and archons prevent Jaedong from doing much damage.

Soon after deflecting Jaedong's harass Much moves out with an army consisting of three archons a hand full of zealots and a dragoon. Much immediately pushes towards Jaedong's base in hopes of inflicting some damage but is promptly turned away by a large force of sunkens, hydra, zergling, and mutalisks.

[image loading]


After deflecting the attack Jaedong proceeds to set up a lurker contain at Much's 3rd base. The high ground and amount of units Jaedong had on the ramp spelled trouble for Much but with some great storms and impressive observer management Much cut a path through the contain.

[image loading]


After breaking out Much takes his 3rd base but by now Jaedong was on 4 bases and had teched to Hive. With swarm and a decent sized army of lurker/ling Jaedong was able to stop Much from killing his 4th base.

[image loading]


After cleaning up the remnants of Much's army Jaedong sets up a contain outside the back door to Much's 3rd and the takes bottom right's main and natural. But Much totally ignoring the contain runs around it to kill Jaedong's 4th base and is successful.

[image loading]


Despite killing Jaedong's 4th, Much was in trouble because his natural and main were mined out leaving him with only 1 active mining base.

Much hoping to even the base count some heads to bottom right and manages to kill the main's hatchery before losing his army.

[image loading]



Despite this small victory Much was about to be in a world of hurt only having 1 mining base compared to Jaedong's 5 and recently started 6th.

Much in an act of desperation sends out a small army to hopefully kill the bottom right bases, but Jaedong, deciding it's worth trading those expansions for Much's main, counters and begins to raze Much's main.

[image loading]


After losing his last army trying to kill Jaedong's 4th Much realizes he's lost and types out.

(Z)Jaedong 3-0 (P)Much[gm]

Final Notes:

Despite it being a 3-0 victory for Jaedong I think Much showed some impressive play and did very well considering he was facing the #1 ZvPer at the moment.

--

Thanks for reading and thanks to those that helped me with editing and such.
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
June 15 2008 05:38 GMT
#5
can't you email yourself like normal people?
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
June 15 2008 05:42 GMT
#6
TL TL TL TL TL. Thats why.
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
June 15 2008 06:09 GMT
#7
teamliquid: storage for all
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
June 15 2008 07:28 GMT
#8
your title sucks. why are you trying to hide this from everyone else?
Moonlight Shadow
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
June 15 2008 08:11 GMT
#9
hi
Moderator<:3-/-<
Kaze
Profile Joined March 2008
United States6 Posts
June 15 2008 08:44 GMT
#10
free storage yay gooo TL
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
June 15 2008 11:15 GMT
#11
hahaha

Why don't you just link to the article?
"Eyes in the sky."
Narrator
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States868 Posts
June 15 2008 17:02 GMT
#12
TL blogs have so many features!
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2013 Posts
June 15 2008 17:06 GMT
#13
You can just post in comment(something you will recognize in future) and use Posts to search it.
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 15 2008 18:34 GMT
#14
Everyone rate this a 1, even the blog title is asking for it.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
21:00
Best Games of EWC
Serral vs Cure
Classic vs Solar
PiGStarcraft187
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft187
Nathanias 128
UpATreeSC 95
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 16180
ggaemo 119
Dota 2
monkeys_forever424
capcasts110
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K346
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr56
Other Games
tarik_tv24385
gofns11708
summit1g4094
Grubby2717
FrodaN1770
shahzam420
RotterdaM129
C9.Mang0112
ToD108
ZombieGrub74
PPMD36
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 31
Other Games
BasetradeTV17
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta41
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 18
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22104
League of Legends
• Doublelift3990
• TFBlade455
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur188
Other Games
• imaqtpie1644
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
5h 14m
CranKy Ducklings
12h 14m
SC Evo League
14h 14m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
15h 14m
Classic vs Percival
Spirit vs NightMare
CSO Cup
18h 14m
[BSL 2025] Weekly
20h 14m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 12h
SC Evo League
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Queen vs HyuN
EffOrt vs Calm
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
2 days
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs TBD
Jaedong vs Mong
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
herO vs TBD
Royal vs Barracks
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Cosmonarchy
6 days
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jiahua Invitational
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSLAN 3
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.