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On June 03 2008 13:15 naventus wrote:
If you want to play SC seriously, you should keep Windows. Mouse acceleration and behavior is just really annoying in Linux, and last I checked there's no real way around it.
To me linux acceleration has always been very logical. You have a threshold and an acceleration, which is triggered past the threshold. If you set a threshold of 0 and an acceleration, you will have constant speed. If you set a threshold of 1 and an acceleration, your mouse pointer will increase in speed by the factor of acceleration every pixel, so you can set a very precise acceleration.
On June 03 2008 15:36 GunsofthePatriots wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2008 12:35 StarN wrote:
Windows had been crashing soooo frequently that I had just gotten sick of it. That and the fact that iTunes stopped working and that Mozilla Firefox was slow as a Turtle.
I am a part of the Linux family now, and I LOVE IT!
That is all. Good luck running StarCraft.
Starcraft works on the latest wine versions pretty much out of the box, as does the ICCUP launcher. You may need to set DirectDrawRenderer to "opengl", RenderTargetLockMode to "readtex", and VideoMemorySize to your video card's memory size as an appdefault for starcraft.exe in regedit to speed up the game to a playable level, however.
The only known bugs are that the battle.net menus are messed up (all black for some reason) and that hitting the "browse" button to create a game on battle.net freezes the game if played on non-virtual desktop mode. The first bug is not a big deal if you know the bnet interface, and the second one can be worked around by playing on a virtual desktop at a resolution of 640x480 and setting it to full screen.
If you want to play bw without the cd in the drive, make or download a .iso file of broodwar and execute the following command before starting starcraft:
sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/broodwar.iso /media/BROODWAR
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Zurich15362 Posts
On June 03 2008 12:55 FragKrag wrote:
lol @ Superiorwolf
I'm planning to use Ubuntu, but I heard bad things about Wine and SC incompatibility.
Double-click on Starcraft.exe .
You are welcome.
OP: congrats, enjoy!
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My past experience has been that the mouse still feels a bit weird even when I xset it to different values.
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i've been wanting to make the conversion myself for a lot of time now but never got down to spend the time needed to learn some basic stuff and actually do it. gl with it and post your impressions after a few days
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Good decision.  It's rare to see something like this in a forum about a Windows game. 
Remember not to give up too fast. Switching to a different OS is a big deal and some things may not work like you expect so you have to learn a few things first. Ubuntu does a pretty good job at making Windows users feel comfortable but under the hood it's still all different.
But it's worth it. If you know Linux well, you'll be much faster in your daily work. The time investment you do at the beginning will pay off in the long run.
You also shouldn't shy away from the command line. For many things, it's the fastest way of doing it.
Advanced users or articles on the web will frequently mention commands because it's faster and easier to do so.
The command line is very powerful, no comparison with the Windows or DOS one.
As I've helped a lot of people switch from Windows to Linux, here are 2 things you should know which maybe aren't that obvious:
1. Software installation: in Windows, you typically search for the website, download a setup program, run it and click through it. In Linux, you don't. Instead, first thing you do is use the package manager of your distribution (in Ubuntu you can use Synaptic (recommended), the "Add/Remove programs" (almost no features but straightforward to use) or the aptitude or apt-get commands), search for an Ubuntu package using this program, and if it exists, install this package. There's no more clicking involved, it gets installed instantly and because it's tailored to your distribution it will just run without further hassles. If there are missing dependencies (libraries for example) they will get installed automatically too. So it's faster.
Only when there is no Ubuntu package you should visit the website and download it from there. But this is rarely the case, Ubuntu has a TON of packages. Just make sure you enable all package repositories.
The best thing about a package manager is that you'll be able to update ALL of your software with just 1 command/click.
2. The command line supports tab completion. I've seen a few people who didn't know that, so... you don't have to type everything, just the first few characters then hit TAB to complete it. Using bash_completion will enhance that even more.
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Just don't think that Linux will miraculously get rid of all your problems. It's good manners to bash Windows nowadays, but if you can't make Windows work properly, it's your problem and not Windows'. It is a very stable OS (XP more so than Vista) if you know what you're doing, and the opposite holds true for Linux - if you don't know what you are doing, it will crash and burn no less than Windows.
In SC terms, it's like saying "WTF I'm fed up with losing with Protoss, ima switch to Zerg". This can help if Zerg suits you more, but it's not easier to become good at playing Zerg in any way.
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On June 03 2008 19:41 Random() wrote:
Just don't think that Linux will miraculously get rid of all your problems. It's good manners to bash Windows nowadays, but if you can't make Windows work properly, it's your problem and not Windows'. It is a very stable OS (XP more so than Vista) if you know what you're doing, and the opposite holds true for Linux - if you don't know what you are doing, it will crash and burn no less than Windows.
In SC terms, it's like saying "WTF I'm fed up with losing with Protoss, ima switch to Zerg". This can help if Zerg suits you more, but it's not easier to become good at playing Zerg in any way.
I agree with the protoss-zerg analogy. It really depends on what you do, if you mostly do games then I guess you need to stick to windows since there are more titles. As for me, I have vmware. I use windows for games, browsing and others while I use my Fedora VM for my web development work. Makes sense to me.
But I do not agree with
opposite holds true for Linux - if you don't know what you are doing, it will crash and burn no less than Windows.
Linux would shield you more against inadvertently doing something nasty to your comp. You basically can't do much harm while running as a regular user. When you need to change something you just sudo/login as root and after doing it, revert back to your original regular user. This is much harder to do in Windows since you need to basically have "administrator" access to do most of the things you do every day. Imo, out of the box, Linux offers more protection against "noobs".
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lol i used to be a Linux user as well. After having a long frustrating year with hardware I gave up. That OS is not for me.Btw, sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/broodwar.iso /media/BROODWAR
i think you can leave the -t iso9660 cuz that's default not sure though. Until they come up with a better UI (meaning less manual editing of conf files) and better hardware support, I will not go back to Linux.
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
On June 03 2008 22:36 dyodyo wrote:
Linux would shield you more against inadvertently doing something nasty to your comp. You basically can't do much harm while running as a regular user. When you need to change something you just sudo/login as root and after doing it, revert back to your original regular user. This is much harder to do in Windows since you need to basically have "administrator" access to do most of the things you do every day. Imo, out of the box, Linux offers more protection against "noobs".
This is somewhat true once you have it set up. But while setting up, it is so much easier to fuck up, especially if the PC comes with newer hardware that doesn't yet have good drivers packed with the distribution.
By the way, nothing prevents you from configuring user rights in Windows as you see fit. There are not only "users" and "admins", but also whatever you like in between. And there is also "runas" as well, which does the same as "sudo".
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if you are not behind routers, take a look at iptables. I remember Ubuntu by default allows the OUTPUT and INPUT chain in the filter table. You should configure it to block the INPUT chain in the filter table to everything except what you want. The same for OUTPUT. What I did for OUTPUT was I allow all ESTABLISHED and RELATED states. Anyways, good old days hehehe.
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You don't know how to keep Windows running smoothly, so you installed Linux?
BAHAHAHHA! QFT
Linux is computer savvy territory only. If windows confused you, chances are Linux will make you want to kill yourself.
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if you stick with linux, it's better in many aspects
that said, it takes about 2 min to install and update broodwar in windows, took me about 3 hours to get wine+bw+iccup working with all settings correctly.
though some things still don't work
- can't alt-tab out cause bw runs under it's own windows manager
- bnet/multiplayer is hard to read but you get used to it
- iccup launcher doesn't close. gives some weird OLE error or something and i can't kill the process either.
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i'd be using my ubuntu if ati didn't blow as much as it currently does
no fault of linux of course, but still annoying for the user (aka me)
but in general, linux isn't that hard, just be willing to do your research. things are different, some for the better (like eye candy, installing software, etc. is juts waaaaaaaaay better in ubuntu), and some for the worse.
even tho i used linux extensively, i still wouldn't recommend it. it's not ready, regardless of what the fanboys say. not even close to ready. not until hardware manufacturers start doing something, and yes i know it's not the fault of linux developers blah blah blah.
still not ready for the average user.
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On June 04 2008 04:03 mjh wrote:
if you stick with linux, it's better in many aspects
that said, it takes about 2 min to install and update broodwar in windows, took me about 3 hours to get wine+bw+iccup working with all settings correctly.
though some things still don't work
- can't alt-tab out cause bw runs under it's own windows manager
- bnet/multiplayer is hard to read but you get used to it
- iccup launcher doesn't close. gives some weird OLE error or something and i can't kill the process either.
I can alt-tab out of it on kde, maybe gnome does things differently for wine, no idea. The iccup launcher can be killed by using the following command:
sudo killall -9 -q Launcher.exe
or, alternatively you can do
ps aux|grep Launcher.exe
copy down the first number on the line (process number) and then do
sudo kill -9 <the number you copied down>
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what linux are you using now? ubuntu? fedora? ... what?
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On June 04 2008 04:53 zdd wrote:I can alt-tab out of it on kde, maybe gnome does things differently for wine, no idea. The iccup launcher can be killed by using the following command: or, alternatively you can do copy down the first number on the line (process number) and then do
or pkill Launcher.exe (DOH!)
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I use suse linux for work (i do unix programming), but thats about it.. I cant live without my windows despite how retarded people claim it to be.
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